Rocky

Preferably, someone you'd want to learn something from.

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Why do you keep responding?

Did any of the videos of classes ever have credits showing who did what to make the video happen? It's been a LOOOOOOOOOng time for me, but I don't recall ever seeing any.

It's up to you to make your case.

Totally! Gives the audience (viewer) a greater sense that they are REAL people, in many ways just like us. I've been very much enjoying Colbert and Seth Meyers especially. Even better when they include their young children. Like Jimmy Fallon did in one vid I watched last night... and Meyers two sons were there at the end of his vid this evening.

"I dont understand why you are saying I am being selective..." There you go... I highlighted it for you. Do you still not understand?

Dude, do you think you get points from God for being "right" about anything? Are you, by any chance, trying to make a case for joining a particular religious denomination (7th Day Adventists)? How much have you considered, in your study of scriptures, what God wants YOU to do (other than "holding forth" your interpretation of what's the right way to understand the Bible)? Btw, I don't need your answers, all three questions are rhetorical.

Btw, I believe there's a boatload of wisdom in T-Bone's comment just above my previous comment.

Tone deaf. Waxit, there's a HUGE difference between discussion (these are discussion forums) and preaching AT people. If you want to get serious about the Great Commission (ministry of reconciliation), you may want to do some research and reflection on the subject of emotional maturity. It is NOT emotionally mature to start off what might be intended to be an apology for having insulted someone by criticizing that person for wrongly getting offended in the first place. "Holding forth" the Word isn't something you necessarily get credit for doing if you act like you're in a vacuum. You're (at least in theory) conversing with real, live, humans. People with feelings and attitudes. If you're going to reach them, you'll have to be able to recognize them as such and actually love them. That just might entail empathizing with them. And that's even IF you have the correct take on what God intends to mean in and by the particular words you think you're holding forth. Just a thought or two.

Word! Me too!

I totally agree with Twinky's response to this rudeness from Waxit: " There is no need to be insulting just because someone presents a different and well-thought-out view." Waxit, it seems you've again missed the point. You're not "right just because you said so." You have to make an argument that makes sense. "even if most of the materia[L] (sic) was plagiarized by some clown" doesn't make your case/argument. There are plenty of possible reasons/causes why the "precepts" in the P-falafel class may not be good biblical principles. Examples thereof are well explained in Charlene's book, Undertow.

That's a long way around the question without even acknowledging the question itself. "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." I Thessalonians 5:21 If you didn't learn it from Wierwille, where did you learn it? Okay, that wasn't the question. But did you ever make it your own? Did you prove it or just accept what he taught you?

There you go, Brother Socks, making rational arguments and coming to wise conclusions.

That sounds like something you learned from Wierwille. How do YOU know it does not have contradictions or that it fits harmoniously with the rest of the scriptures (as we know them)?

I don't think you get the point. What's the difference between judgment and discernment? It appears that both words imply that you're right and those you judge are wrong. Am I wrong on that? I can't prove you wrong or right. But if you are able to put aside your ego and be still inside, you might discern/judge differently than you have heretofore. Maybe.

There will also be people who will refuse to agree with your understanding of something in the Bible that you emphatically hold true but may indeed be your misunderstanding. Just sayin'. Pride goes before the fall. See Proverbs 16.

Okay... but just in case you may have missed it, there's Matthew 7:1 1“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

"Trust me you have to change your attitude to one of meekness and obedience like Moses and become humble to God's word if you want his blessings." What about Matthew 5:44-45? 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. Trust me, Waxit, you may or may not have the final word on what pleases God and what doesn't.

Am I understanding your intent Waxit to be that if anyone disagrees with your understanding, they somehow aren't "in fellowship" with God? Or some variation on that theme? Or perhaps you meant to ask which part of any of them does anyone understand differently than you?

In case anyone gets confused, Donnie here is Don Wierwille, not Fugit who was referenced in the previous quoted paragraph.

But instead of standing shoulder-to-shoulder with fellow congregants — Fink in her Paradise Valley synagogue, Lucero in her Catholic parish in Glendale — the women, and millions of others, now worship via television, YouTube, Facebook or Zoom. For people of all faiths, prayer has taken on a new solitude. ---- This time I am suggesting alternatives.

That's certainly one option, but not necessarily the only one. I "said what I meant, and meant (only) what I said." I've been reading up on the history of pandemics, notably the 1918 Spanish Flu. Anyone not living under a rock knows by now of the concept/practice awkwardly titled social distancing. I wanted to get more understanding than simply accepting what we're hearing on broadcast news, or in print journalism.

Except that most of the time, people who took the PFLAP class and clung to him and his organization did so primarily because of the illusion that he projected and the fact that they (we) wanted to BELONG to a social CULTure that had such noble ideas and "practices."