Rocky

That's a whole different subject, not simply an example to illustrate something for this thread. It might seem logical to you but for multiple reasons it is not rational.

You might think so, but you haven't made a cogent (or sound or rational or logical) argument to that effect. You have led me to question what, ultimately, your objective might be for your bickering on this thread. As to your dismissive retort "Einstein" when I pointed out the awkwardness of your cherry picking, I would suggest that Professor Einstein's theories and rumination were most definitely not putting ANYbody in danger of death by pandemic. Therefore, your retort is even more awkward and out of place than otherwise apparent. Cheers dude.

Do you grasp the concept of "cherry picking?" YOUR professional's opinion is diametrically opposed to the overwhelming majority of experts in the specific field in question...

Indeed. That's what I was getting at. The decision makers (after having deposed Rosa-lie) trying to figure out what MIGHT work to rejuvenate the dying sect.

You forgot the most important one: "Morbid longing to return to one's home or native country; homesickness, especially in its severe forms, producing derangement of mental and physical functions." Those were the days, my friend, we wished they'd never end. We'd sing and dance forever and a day... IF in fact the rumored desire of the new trustees has/had ANY factual basis (and it's definitely plausible), it's ALL about nostalgia, wishin' and hopin' for a return to the "good old days" when Victor was still alive and ranting at anyone and everyone not toeing the line he wanted them to toe. Trying to clone the Rock of Ages sounds like homesickness and mental derangement if you ask me. Remember the song, "It's good to be home again, been away too long..."

NOSTALGIA: from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition. noun A bittersweet longing for things, persons, or situations of the past. noun The condition of being homesick; homesickness. from The Century Dictionary. noun Morbid longing to return to one's home or native country; homesickness, especially in its severe forms, producing derangement of mental and physical functions.

Oh? Please tell us more.

You'd maybe have a legitimate point, IF you made cogent arguments. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like you're doing so.

LOL! As if you have any control or even influence over what they do or say?

Individuals don't mandate. Institutions do.

From a public health perspective, we ALL have the right and duty to encourage friends and family to get the covid 19 vax. History makes it very clear it's the right thing to do.

My daughter has made arrangements for my school age grandkiddos to get their first covid vax within the next two weeks and jab #2 three weeks later. She's thrilled and so am I.

Reagan said, "Trust, but verify."

Contributed ONE of the $50 donations.

For perspective: FLU shots. In retrospect: speculation about share prices is meaningless. Bottom line: the covid-19 vaccines save lives.

I understand.

Jesus (Hey-Zuse) Enrique (Spanish equiv of Henry) Rosas. Not so difficult... if you've lived in the SW for half a century. Anyway, the 8 minute youtube vid is interesting and definitely not boring. My take is that a certain US Senator prominently in the news lately presents mostly as grandiose with some passive tendencies.

There are news stories (very recently) noting the highest protection apparently is in people who have both had the infection and then also gotten vaxxed. I've had the Pfizer booster and also take 5k units of Vit D. To avoid any potential ambiguity, I have not had a covid19 infection to date.

and wear a hat.

Note that the CNN story is from six years ago this month. And yes, Warren Jeffs is a VERY bad character.

Warren Jeffs, the leader of the polygamist sect Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, was convicted in 2011 for the sexual assault of underage girls. Who Is Warren Jeffs?

Payday is Tuesday night.

Abstract This exploratory study aims to examine the perceptions that 101 self-identified Spanish former members of diverse abusive groups have of their past group and their reasons for leaving it, as well as the psychological distress they experienced following their exit. In addition, we compare the participants’ responses according to their methods of exiting the group and according to whether or not they received any assistance from cult-awareness organizations. Most of our participants walked away from the group following a period of personal reflection, without any external intervention, and they considered their own disillusionment as the main factor that led to their disaffiliation. Our results showed no differences between those participants who received support from cult-awareness associations and those who did not; nor did they show any differences, in terms of their motives for leaving, their perceptions of psychological abuse in their former groups, or their reported level of psychological distress, between those participants who walked away from the group and those who left after an outside intervention. Key words: Cults; New religious movements; Cult disaffiliation; Method of exit The study of cults, new religious movements, or psychologically manipulative groups, as they have come to be labeled, has acquired increasing relevance as society grows more and more concerned with the behavior of some of these groups. Various dramatic events, such as the “group immolations” associated with cults, even though they are not exactly representative of the social problem in question, have given rise to media coverage that is more or less proportional to the magnitude of the event. The bewilderment caused by these occasional deeds promotes the search for explanations as to how certain persons can go so far as to lose their lives or to threaten those of others for supposed “moral imperatives” dictated by a leader or group. (more) [...] Leaving a cult is a matter that has received little attention and is probably the least understood question related to the phenomenon (Wright, 1987). Empirical studies are few, which tends to limit most works to a reiteration of the few findings actually made between 1980 and 1990. At the same time, the literature is dominated by theoretical contributions of sociologists of religion, while very few studies have been carried out from a psychological perspective.

Has it ever occurred to you to do the searching and bring what you find to what you try to say so that you can be more clear?