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Part of the 'appeal' was certainly feeling like you had 'secret 'information. The way thrived on tickling us with these sensational ideas. Incredibly, that was part of the draw when I considered going into the way corps. That's where you'd REALLY find out what's going on. If you were just a 'regular' believer, you couldn't 'handle' the deeper truths. I recall often being told I 'didn't need to know', when I tried to find out what they were talking about, especially around '76 when the way 'saved' the country from the illumanati, communist takeover, and one world government. There was always that air of 'we know more than you, due to our deeper spirituality, and greater committment. It was part of the carrot dangled before us to desire to take the next step in 'service'. if the implication that the holocaust was a lie, then we certainly wanted to know the truth. It was one reason why the way appealed to the impressionable young. I can't imagine any mature person working and raising a family buying into it.

I find it disturbing that anyone would even get involved in another's life and marriage, passing judgement or 'evaluating' the relationship. With my closest friends, the personal relationships they have with thie partners is their business and noone elses. But of course we're talking about the way and the remnants of way think, which involved doing nothing but sticking ones nose into matters that are none of their business. There certainly seems to be those here at greasespot who are still thumping their own particular views about life, marriage, politics ,in an 'in your face' way type manner. It's sad that catcup felt the need to 'defend' her life and marriage, but maybe it will serve as a good reminder for us to mind our own beeswax. The most liberating aspect of being free from the way for me is not feeling like someone is looking over my shoulder, and evaluating every move I make. I could give a rat's a## what anyone thinks of my decisions,and I've only been able to accomplish goals and find peace since coming to this place.

I'm sure there's a logic to Raf's suggestion. Now I'm curious what it is. Are New Yorkers not 'yankees'? I grew up in Connecticut and we were certainly 'yankees' there. But while we're at it, the Dodgers should have changed names when they left Brooklyn. The Red Sox don't wear red socks. The Indians and Braves have image problems by name alone, and just add to them with the grinning Indian, and the tomahawk chop. The Houston Astros are no longer in the astrodome.The Angels aren't in Los Angeles, but say they are, which bothers many, but didn't seem to be an issue when the Los Angeles Rams played in Anaheim.

Good one, Kathy.

I was coordinating a fellowship in CT, when the word came down to burn the blue songbooks. If there was one thing that was drilled in our heads, it was to obey an order from leadership as if it was from God Himself, so I built a fire and had a nice blaze. A few months later I had moved to Ohio, and was sitting in a new twig where I didn't know anyone. They passed out blue songbooks and I said 'hey, you were supposed to burn these'. Someone said ,' oh yeah, I remember that-well we like these'. I didn't know whether to be appalled at their audacity, or love them for their refusal to follow every directive. I knew how wound tight everyone was in CT, due to the constant drumming of way rules, and I thought that it would be even more so closer to HQ. I ultimately found those little acts of rebellion, or just not caring, to be refreshing, and I was on my way to dismantling way brain long before I really left.

I knew it before I heard it based on George's clue, but would have known it immediately in any case. Good show!

I don't 'remember' Dagmar, but do know of her and her breasts by reputation.

Well, that tune is easy for me at least. It was the theme for a show that replaced another show that has been discussed here. It was used for years in the original show, as a kind of theme tune , then 'promoted' to main theme when the second show began. If that makes sense.

whew-Im glad I got all my Warren info correct before the imdb file was posted. Not only did Chuck disappear, but they went through 2 actors playing him. He was mentioned every Christmas though, because the producers loved to re run the first season Christmas show that featured Fonzie spending Christmas with the Cunninghams. In the current wraparound, introducing the flashback, Fonzie refers to Richie's brother Chuck, home from college. since Chuck was in the episode and couldn't be ignored. Otherwise it was if he was never there. The Cunningham house changed from the first season filmed episodes, to the shooting before a live audience set. The house we've come to know looks ridiculous when you try to logically pair the exterior shot with the interior stage set. That's because they kept the original exterior shot, which did match the original interior. Speaking of leaving with no mention. It drove me nuts that Adam was treated like he was never there after Pernell Roberts left Bonanza. There was an explanation that he went to sea to travel around the world, which makes sense in that Ben was a former sea captain. I remember wanting to put my foot through the screen in a later episode where Ben is showing someone a special tree where 'all his sons' carved their names , and it only showed Hoss and Joe. Even then it struck me that they had no respect for their audience, tho at the time , tv was not concerned with continuity the way it is now.

thanks to George's clues, the film title is a cinch. Didn't know a tv show was made based on it. I always think of marlboro cigarettes when I hear it, the preferred smoke of the way-at least it seemed to be during the smoke infested twig leader meetings.

ok-I just read the cast for every episode of Andy griffith during Warren's stint, and he was in 11 episodes before moving away. That's more than I thought, but is still less than half a season. I did re discover that he was supposedly Floyd's nephew, tho. Speaking of Floyd, a gruesome yet fascinating aspect of the show was when Howard McNear( Floyd) had a stroke, and was paralyzed on his left side. He continued to do the Floyd role, but would only be shown standing behind or sitting in the barber chair, holding a scissor or comb in his right hand , as he couldn't move his left arm. I have to admit I get a morbid tendency to watch him in those episodes to see how they disguise his inability to move. Kathy, that western gent always seemed too old and odd for me, but supposedly he sure could jump like a rabbit.

Sudo-Warren was only in a few episodes when they realized it just wasn't happening. I wouldn't swear to 4, but for some reason that sticks in my head. It surely wasn't many more than that, tho he was around for Barney's first return to Mayberry. A little research should give the definitive answer. I used to mistake Festus for Howard Morris (Ernest T Bass). I was never a big Gunsmoke fan, but I did like Dennis Weaver as Chester with the one stiff leg. Dang-that's the most familiar western theme ever and I'm having a brain freeze again trying to place it. I know I'm going to feel stupid when it comes to me.

you are absolutely right George-it was cary grant-just had a mind freeze there.

THAT'S it, Steve. Maybe one needs to hear it, since it was all in the delivery. It made me laugh when i was 13, anyway.

Jack Burns lasted 4 episodes, I meant to say. sorry

I agree, George. Return to Mayberry was excellent. The one show of it's type that proves that maybe you can go home again. The lame deputy you're thinking of was Jack Burns, as Warren, Kathy. He came on baord right after Barney left, as they probably felt they had to have another inept, goofy deputy. I think he lasyed for episode before disappearing . It just didn't work. Not that Jack Burns wasn't a good comedian-he was normally teamed with Avery Schreiber as Burns and Schrieber. They were best known for their taxi cab skits, (as seen on Ed Sullivan), with Burns the know it all passenger , and Schrieber the cab driver. They had a signature patter that I can't quite figure out how to translate here. Anyway, it didn't work out on Andy griffith, and they never tried anothe wacky deputy. I've always felt they should keep trying as the show really started to go downhill around this time. Barney would still make annual visits to Mayberry at least.Don Knotts was off making 'the Ghost and mr Chicken', and the like, but still returned to his Barney role. While they were always the highlight of the season, it just wasn't the same. One sad episode had him reunite with Thelma Lou ( who had lost her job on the show when there was no Barney to date). Barney thinks he'll rekindle the romance but finds she's gone and got married. sob They rectified that in the 'Return to Mayberry' movie, in a very moving, finally getting together story. Oh-The difference between Gomer and Goober singing is that Gomer can really sing. Goober does a better 'James Cagney', tho-judyjudyjudy.

No-no spin off with Barney. there was Gomer Pyle USMC. , Where Gomer was not as funny as the lead as he was in mayberry. Frank Sutton as Sgt carter was always a treat tho. There was Mayberry Rfd, when Andy Griffith left. Ken Berry as Sam Jones became the star, with Aunt Bee, Goober, Howard Sprague, and Emmitt still on hand. That;s not Barney and Gomer by a long shot.

I've never much cared for the renovated Yankee Stadium. Removing the copper facade, with a reminder of it in center field has always bothered me. The bleacher seats behind the monuments are so far away you may as well not be there. Still it is Yankee Stadium, and even the most rabid Yankee hater seems to respect the history. I understand the new park will be returning to the original facade-that's a good start. And at least it's not being built in Jersey. Even Fenway is going to have to come down one of these days. That may be more traumatic than Yankee Stadium.

geez-I felt the same way when Mike left 'My Three Sons' too ! Seems like every character I liked best was leaving in the 60's. I had grown up with Tim Considine (Mike) from 'Spin and Marty', and the 'Hardy Boys' on the Mickey Mouse Club, and looked up to him as a cool older brother(unlike my rat real older brother, yuk, yuk). Not only did Mike leave, but 'Bub', William frawley, left also, replaced by Uncle Charlie, and Ernie. It was all downhill from there. Barney left Mayberry, the 'good' Darrin left bewitched, James Garner left Maverick (tho I actually liked Bart Maverick better). I learned early on that people leave-sigh.

well, Ed Asner DID play Lou Grant in both shows-but he might as well have been a different actor. 'Lou Grant' needed at least a guest appearance by Murray Slaughter to remind you where it came from. As far as Pernell Roberts. I went through a real Bonanza trauma as a kid when he left the show. It never seemed right to see just 3 Cartrights riding toward you instead of 4. For some reason , Adam was my favorite of the family, tho I'm not quite sure why from a 40 year removed perspective.

That show showed us what Adam Cartright would have looked like without the toupee and with a beard. It had the same problem as 'Lou Grant" tho. Taking a sit com character and putting them in a show that had nothing to do with the previous one and was too serious.

I couldn't play guitar worth beans, but the 2 songs I could play were Walk, Don't Run, and Rocky Raccoon. I'm not saying I played them WELL.

I just referred to that instrumental, a few posts back. I don't know who sang the first song, but I'm going to take a guess and say Dinah Shore.

Yes, it was '88 when Gibson hit the game winning homer on the gimpy leg. A legitimate great moment in baseball history, and one the Dodgers have built a couple of generations of fans on.

I saw Maddux pitch at Dodger Stadium a couple weeks ago from a seat right behind home plate. It was a classic case of a great pitcher not having his best 'stuff' but winning through experience and guile. I can't remember when I've enjoyed watching a pitching performance so much. The guys behind me couldn't figure it out. They post the post the speed and type of pitch on every pitch, and they were saying this guy sucks for throwing an 82 mph fastball. Going to see the Twins at Dodger Stadium tomorrow. I've always liked the twins. A small market team that's almost always competitive and have more world series trophies in the last 15 years than most 'big market' teams. it dawned on me that there are college graduates who grew up in LA that have never seen the Dodgers in the World Series, yet the Dodgers are always touting their winning history. Well, they were close last year, and a darn nice team was coming together, before the new owners blew it up. And that's the sports for today.