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Good to hear! Thanks Steve!

But then when Martinpuke came out with his class he said we should have people sit BEFORE the SIT session. I think it's because he knew the class was cr@p and didn't do squat to teach people.

Ah, that makes sense Satori. Thanks. It does sound like something I would like to learn more about.

My faith in the judicial system has been restored and I'm rather surprised that they were able to find a jury in CA who would and could do the right thing. Now...if only they had had the trial in TX or some other state where they REALLY carry out a death sentence.

LOL! I'd love to be called a hot babe! :D--> How old is yer buddy? I have an online dating profile..... ;)--> BTW, I've always thought ex would be a blast to hang out with and would love to get to hell&back twice to see her someday.

I wasn't around for POP, so thanks for sharing. It seems the more I know about TWI, the more it seems that those "in the know" and "close to the fire" have always acted quicker to jump ship than those of us "on the field" and kept ignorant of the little man behind the curtain. Now, how do you explain the Green*'s and the Moynih*ns and others who've been around forever continuing to sell the b.s. that they know they're pushing? Is it just for the $$$$?

He just makes me sick. And Al Sharpton. They're just opportunistic maggots. Satori, I'd let them fry. :D-->

This is great! Thanks, y'all!

TWI cost me: My self-esteem Years of my life My husband The family I wanted and thought I was going to have Great true friendships More money than I care to think about My ability to trust My interest in the Bible and anything spiritual Wow! Such a short list. Why does it feel like I've paid so much more? :(-->

JT, were they either filthy rich, had a huge inheritance or was the money from selling their original home that they DID have a mortgage on? I highly doubt you're going to find an average middle class family who has never had a mortgage paying cash for a house unless they win the lottery or come into a windfall some other way. It just isn't going to happen. You can't save for a house while you're paying outrageous rental fees - especially if you have kids and are saving for college for them as well.

No private phone calls and no internet access, either. But, you see, Mr. H, we only do this so that "the world" doesn't become a distraction. This is so that you can fully concentrate on living The Word and serving God to the best of your ability. You do want to be pleasing to God, don't you. ;)--> We'll tell you if there's anything you need to know.

dmiller, thanks. I appreciate your candor. So we both lost our loved ones when we left TWI. It hurts, doesn't it? We were going to have kids and he changed his mind as I changed my mind about being in a cult. Now I'm fast approaching "too old to have kids" and that really scares me. I'm afraid I may have missed my opportunity to have the "normal" family I so wanted and thought I was going to have with him. I'm sorry that you haven't found another woman to marry, if that's what you want. I'm sure God appreciates your ability to continue trusting in Him and Jesus despite the cr@p we've had to go through. Thanks for having the wherewithall to speak your mind on here. I truly appreciate it. ((((SHELLON))) Thanks so much! :)-->

Thanks, y'all! I keep thinking I'm handling this all fine and strong and it's not bothering me and then I feel like something jumped out of the bushes and punched me in the stomach. Your answers really help more than you can imagine. I really appreciate you taking the time to respond.

At Indiana they did make you shower together. I don't know about the other locations.

I'd love to watch them fry, but that's probably why God didn't leave it up to us. ;)-->

I posted this originally on the Nephilim thread, but decided to move it here so as to not derail it. How long have y'all been out of TWI? How long did it take you to "get over it"? Did you go to therapy? (I am going now). Did you feel like someone died in your life when you found out about how awful TWI was? I commented that anything related to the Bible makes me sick to my stomach. I used to really enjoy watching the doctrinal section and the debates, but I can't even bring myself to go there right now. dmiller expressed his concern about my decision, albeit nicely. :)--> dmiller, The key word in my post is "these days", I'm not saying I'll never go back to church, but for now, it's too much for me. I get panic attacks almost and any key words or phrases really disturb me. I was attending a church regularly, but they kept inviting me to more and more things and if I did miss they would call, I know they probably don't have the same ulterior motive that TWIts did, but it still bothers me. I joined their Purpose Driven Life small study groups and one night the tape of the author talking really touched off some major alarms and bells for me and I shared what I disagreed with and why with my small group, but I left there in tears and very shaken. I'm not strong enough to combat those things in my mind yet, so it's easier for me to just stay away. I also had started looking into some of the more spiritual things non-religion related that some of my family has gotten into, such as reiki and chakras, but I'm just not there. Not ready to do anything. Bitter? maybe. Still grieving my marriage? yep. Still hurting from learning how duped and stupid I was in TWI? yep. Do I feel like something/someone died? yep. How long have you been out, dmiller? Years? Decades? I haven't even been out 2 years and I've only been divorced for months. I appreciate your comments, but I think they come from an uninformed point of view.

edited not to derail the thread. :)-->

Rejoice, can you tell me more about that book? "Killing the Victim before he kills you" What does Momentus teach exactly?

I mostly like Dr Phil. Of course he has to do some commercialism, if he didn't he wouldn't have a successful show. I think he and Robin come across as pompus and the epitomy of a perfect marriage and family at times and it reminds me too much of some of the upper echelon of the WC. But not always. Reikilady, I love that question, "How's that working for you?" too! Some shows don't interest me at all and others I tape if I'm going to miss them. No one's perfect and there are times I disagree with him or don't like how he's handing people, but for the most part I learn or at least enjoy watching. I'd love to see him do a show on cults and the marriages like mine was where one wants out and the other doesn't and the one who wants out has to hide it to try and keep the marriage together while they work on helping their beloved spouse see the light. I wonder what he would say in that situation.

I've never heard of any of this. Very interesting, but what does all that stuff on the picture mean? Chas, I learned that too in English, but it was so that your papers were organized and flowed correctly. I never heard it called mind mapping. Am I missing out on something here? I doodle like crazy, does that mean I'm supposed to be creative, cause I'm anything but.

Sounds like a fun read even if it's just taking the book as pure fiction. However, I just can't get motivated to read anything having to to with the Bible these days. It just makes me sick to my stomach.

RADAR - CHECK YOUR PRIVATES!!! :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> ;)-->

I forgot the "disciple" and weaping and gnashing of teeth parth. Man, I missed an opportunity to launch into a diatribe about limud and binding up the word or eating it or something like that.... :D-->

Chas, we were DEFINITELY in WAAAAYYYYY TOOO LONG! I can answer these effen questions in my sleep!

What about - you reap what you sow?