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Merry Christmas Youns guys and gals. We were involved from '82 to 1990, so I don't remember Craig talking about a Christ massacre. I do remember though when the whole Happy Household holiday thing started. It was at a Sunday Night Service or something when VP said "I'm sick and tired of hearing about a mass for Christ!" Then he launched into a tirade about Christ mas being a derivative of some Roman Catholic tradition and suggested we abandon such polluted verbiage and wish everyone a Happy Household Holiday. I guess he thought it was clever because it kind of rhymed with Ho Ho Ho. So we did that for a few years, but dropped it as soon as we left TWI and have enjoyed celebrating Christmas ever since. Although being the somewhat judgmental folk that we are, we never included Santa Claus in our celebration. The kids, who were born while we were in, had never been taught that gifts came from Santa and we decided it was a stupid lie and haven't changed our minds about that. Re. Thomas Loy Bumgarder's question I actually came here to post a related question. I find myself unable to really enjoy that work because it's based, not on a recognition of the Birth of Christ, but on spiritualism. Scrooge is "redeemed" or converted if you will, by a visitation of apparitions and one dead friend; all of which are, according to TWI teaching, devilish deceptions. I've reconsidered a lot of TWI doctrine, but remain undecided about the whole death/afterlife and demons thing. The content of Dickens' tale is not only not Christ centered, it distinguishes the witness of the spirits from that of the Church. The Ghost of Christmas Present tells Scrooge he has 1,842 brothers. We are lead to believe those are other spirits. At one point he tells Scrooge that the hypocritical deeds of "men of the cloth" are not to be laid to the blame of him and his brothers, and that, as far as he is concerned, those men are strangers. The underlying message of the story is the Church is corrupt so follow the spirits instead. Sorry, I can't buy that. I think one of the reasons A Christmas Carol is such a popular movie that gets recycled and replayed so much every year is because it's another example of a man getting his life changed without recognizing Christ, which is what the secular world wants. (I feel the same way about It's a Wonderful Life, but that's another story) Okay, stepping down off the soapbox. What do you folks think about this? Am I being too pharisaic? What's wrong with my thinking on this issue?

Oddly enough, I was thinking about this just a few days ago, wondering if that reference in the class was based on fact or just made up to inflate VP's credibility. I've also wondered about his alleged missionary trip to India and the healing he talked about performing on the train. They gave him the key to the city of Jabalpur and all that. Anyone know if this really happened or not?

The Chronicles of Riddick?

That line sounds familiar, but I can't quite place it. Another clue might help.

Bummer. :( This was the first hit single of my all time favorite rock band. This is the song that converted me from "pop" to hard rock. FREE POST!

LOL. Couldn't have said it better.

Is BG Leonard's ministry still active?

Raf, that sounds vaguely familiar, but it's not ringing a bell for me. I'm sure somebody else will get it.

No problem HWB. Here's a line from the chorus. This oughta give it away. You supply the night Baby (song title)

I didn't. I answered the previous clue, then tacked on the next one,which hasn't been guessed. If you recognize the lyric under the youtube link, go ahead. :)

Band on the Run by Paul McCartney and Wings. I had a Radio Shack cassette recorder back in high school. That song was the first thing I ever taped. :-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Next clue. I see a horseman in the sky, It makes me turn and wonder why I hear the same old fourteen reasons, Must be the changin' of the seasons

FREE POST

Christmas story. A holiday classic

Kindergarten Cop?

Sounds familiar, but I can't place it. Can we get another clue?

Yep. You're up Hoomin. :)

Sorry HWB, it doesn't ring a bell.

FWIW, I dont't think Johniam's deflections are intentional. In my presumptuous opinion, he is simply deeply, emotionally dependent on the illusion that he KNOWS the truth. I have ex-way friends of the same mindset. It's too diffiCULT for them to let go of the feeling of certainty, and spiritual superiotity that VP peddled. Kind of sad really

As long as we're temporarily off-topic...have any of you heard Yes' Drama album from1980? It' my FAVORITE rock recording of all time. I think it represents the zenith of the genre. What do you other YES fans think? :) Thanks for the emoticon tip George. :)

Just keep swimming, just keep swimming

yeah sure, what the heck. This one's a golden oldie. Anyone who was in high school in the mid 70's should know it. :-) The music dance and sing They make the children really ring I spend the day your way Call it morning driving thru the sound and in and out the valley In and around the lake Mountains come out of the sky and they stand there One mile over we'll be there and we'll see you Ten true summers we'll be there and laughing too Twenty four before my love you'll see I'll be there with you

That's gotta be from 2001: A Space Odyssey.

I LOVE that bass line. So funky!

me neither

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