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Sorry guys I'm traveling, don't know if I'll be able to keep up with this t hread away. FREE POST

What I am into right now is breaking the seven-way tie for the position of Today's Top Poster. Woot! I RULE!! Oh no!! Ham just posted his third!! Take THAT HAMMERONI!! :biglaugh: oh crap. Confound that mutliple post consolidation!

Very cool song. It came out when I was in high school and is one of my favorite songs by that band. It's by one of the most successful and popular bands of that era, but is not characteristic of their most popular tunes. Here's another line from the song. If this doesn't give it away, I'll yield the floor. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You just want someone to talk to They just wanna get their hands on you You get whatever you choose Oh, no, you can’t do that, Once you started wearin’ ______ ________.

Sounds more like AI to me.

D'OH! Well since nobody got that one Trefor, give us another. :-)

If I were (still) a Wierwille apologist, I might offer Genesis 1:6 & 7 in support of VP's assertion that heaven is any place above earth. In this passage,it seems that the air mass that separated the waters on the earth from the waters above was called "the firmament" or heaven. So in that context, heaven is the air mass above the earth. ---------------------------------------------------------- And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so. But It is quite true that Wierwille had an atrocious habit of twisting scripture to fit his predetermined doctrines. Fabricating Greek definitions was one of his favorite techniques for shoving that hand into the proverbial glove. So on this one, if it appears that the Bible asserts that heaven could refer to anyplace above earth...I think he just got lucky. :-) I don't think we can include this in the long list of Actual Errors in PFAL.

Well I built me a raft and she's ready for floatin'

Then it would have to be the second one. :-)

Tell me whatcha gonna do tonight mama There must be someplace you can go In the middle of the tall drinks and the drama There must be someone you

Hmm. Not sure if its' the right one, but I think that's from Jurassic Park 3

Black Dog?

Ditto

I have put many beautiful pinatas in the storeroom, each of them filled with little suprises. Many pinatas? Oh yes, many! Would you say I have a plethora of pinatas? A what? A plethora. Oh yes, you have a plethora. Jefe, what is a plethora? Why, El Guapo? Well, you told me I have a plethora. And I just would like to know if you know what a plethora is. I would not like to think that a person would tell someone he has a plethora, and then find out that that person has no idea what it means to have a plethora.

A Few Good Men. I'm your huckleberry.

There goes my baby She knows how to Rock n' roll She drives me crazy She gives me hot and cold fever Then she leaves me in a cool cool sweat

Gone with the Wind. Houston, we have a problem.

Rear Window

That sounds vaguely familiar, but I still can't remember what film it's from.

Not me.

That it is, George. :-) Your turn.

Where did the fish hook story come from? We were told that the damage to VP's eyes was caused by Howard Allen not setting the lighting properly when the filmed the first Pfille class back in the 60s. When Wierwille announced that he was having that eye removed, he said that he'd been dealing with constant pain in his eyes since they filmed THE CLASS. Did they later announce that the one that wasn't burned out and removed was later wounded by a fish hook? If so, what are the odds that a man would have two major --but separate--injuries, one resulting in the removal of an organ the other resulting in death. That's just too much of a stretch for me.

Tubhumping! by Chumbawumba. Thanks, I needed that. :-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Her weapons were her crystal eyes Making every man a man Black as the dark night she was Got what no-one else had Wa!

Socks, I think you hit the nail on the head. Whether cancer was supposed to be a devil spirit or not (and I think your post more accurately presents the nuances of that teaching), the bottom line is VP was presented as the Man of God For Our Time, a pioneer of faith based abundant living. The idea that such a man, a modern day Apostle, would succumb to ANY disease at his age contradicts the very premise of PFAL. I remember hearing that the first time VP asked Craig to minister to him Craig was stunned because the idea that his mentor would need someone else's help was an alien concept. So the underlying problem is that the champion of believing for health and prosperity failed to walk the talk in his own life. We can say that everyone dies at some time, but the thing that sticks in my mind is that we were taught that VP was a college friend of the great evangelists Billy Graham and Oral Roberts. I keep looking at the relative longevity of those men vs Wierwille's. Billy Graham is 93: "well stricken in years". Roberts lived to be 91. Wierwille only lived to 69. That's not a long life for a preacher, imho. (Of course, most Fundamentalist preachers don't smoke cigarettes and drink Drambuie as earlier noted) I keep wondering if the Lord didn't cut his time short because he was weighed in the balance and found wanting.

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I am quite sure that I have NEVER seen this movie. :-)