Kit Sober

I had to wait for the dvd to come out -- and even then it took me two days to watch it (I can't take so much peril terror). Hope for the new world: Dennis Quaid made a promise to his son and kept it! And son said, "He'll be here." I thought that was cool. I liked looking at the ordinary things in a different way -- things under ice. Emmerich is from UC Berkeley, home of Lawrence radiation lab and Hall of Science,and much academic intellecualism. I got a kick out of seeing the hypothesis that the intellectuals were the only ones with Good Sense played out. Unfortunately the only satisfying resolution of the great problems in life are found in the heart of the Lord -- which place is not journeyed to in this movie. The one reference to prayer in the pinch was by Dennis Quaid's character,and it was said without too much conviction. I did like seeing what a man like Kerry would be in a calamity -- TDAT U.S. President saved himself and made a mealy speech about preserving our resources. No mention of beseeching God's favor and deliverance. Just brain power saved the day. Oh well. Some think this I am sure. And those that think our salvation lies in the intelligence of our youth will find satisfaction in this movie. Kit

The empty chair is a reminder that He is coming back, and at any time, and that He is always welcome. Also, He is here in our midst always, though unseen by the naked eye, not unseen to the Spirit. He is the cool of the day, the drying of tears, the reason of a laugh, the light through crystals of mist that form the rainbow. A little girl has a lovely doll in hope of the baby she will one day cherish. A young boy in biology 101 has a heart full hope for the doctor he wants to be, and that hope holds him to the drudgery between now and then. Hope and the reminder of the expectations of our heart are normal, and the many ways people adopt to practice the presence of God are exercises engaged so that when He does come, He may say, "Well done, good and faithful servant." Hopefully, Kit

neither pulpit nor congregation, just my opinion. I know that, now, some people are alone and wish they had company. Others wish they were alone. And I think heaven will be what will really make us happy. No pulpit just an opinion. And underneath all my thoughts IMHO Father knows best. kit

I think God has it all worked out. quote from somewhere I think those that want that stuff will get it. And those that want nothing more than to see the face of Jesus will see that.I really think God is smart enough to plan for us all.

Sky4it, Job (and his friends) have been of interest to me for a long time. My brother named his dog Job circa 1950. And the lives of myself and my family have been difficult. We have not made it to the "multiplying" part. And all I do know is to try to do the worship you speak of. (Sheep don't scream and yell. Sometimes they are even silent.) The praise and worship we do is the heart song. And should ever be on our lips, even when our lips are silent. That's the honey I think. And this can only be, I think, when there is no root of bitterness within, I think. Kit

Once upon a time, Fred banged his head on the closet bar at Gunnison, and Fred was getting upset, and along comes Phil Klinkenberg, and he bangs his head even harder -- and Fred stops feeling sorry for himself, and Phil is concerned about Fred. . . And I told Phil his getting hit on the head helped Fred, and Holy Spirit, being as funny as he is, caused him to do so. . . And then when Fred lost his job on Friday (day before yesterday) there was two of them who were told they were being fired -- Fred and this young kid, with wife and small children, and he was two days away from the end of his 90-day "probationary period." ("He was really upset," Fred said.) Fred was not so devastated, and he had compassion on the other guy. And maybe Fred's being there (an old fat guy losing his job) was a comfort to the other guy somehow. . . and I guessed it was the best Holy Spirit could do in the situation. Sometimes Holy Spirit does things in our lives for others. What do you think?

learning is not always an exciting adventure. Sometimes it sucks. I now believe that there is space for animals in heaven as well,and that we will get to meet yoru beloved Lady at that time. Hopefully,

Some people act like goats because that's all they know. Loving kindness of sheep is our job. The Lord is the one who separates the sheep from the goats. Some people I used to think were goats have turned out to be the ones who are the true Christians/sheep. And others (vpw et al) who i thought were sheep were the real goat-y ones. Now I try to let the Lord do the judging. Kit

me thinks Wacky Funster Kit

I was kicked out. My family, Fred Kevin and Paul, were willing to leave the group. twi members were told not to speak to me. One guy did and was willing to get kicked out because of it. I agree with dmiller in the assessment he gave of the dead sea not missing the drop of water evaporating. Very nice. Kit

Here is the article (it is already in the Archives, and you need to search for it) October 7 2004

How do you think they did? Kit

igotout -- A possibility is the "i can help by the example of my life" syndrome. What a tragic waste. and not only for HQ staffers, but for twig leaders wherever they may be -- indeed anyone who allows someone else to come into their home and take over, insulting and berating the homeowners and their children as well. And because it appears that Holy Spirit is not allowed on grounds either (or any influence that would intimate that things are not hunky-dory at HQ, it is so very possible to deceive. . . After all, computers and internet access is from the devil. . . so they wouldn't look on the internet. . . I am so thankful I got kicked out -- else I would probably still be there, wishing that all the "copouts" would "come-back-home." It was only an act of grace and mercy lcm kicked me out, for which i am deeply thankful. Kit

IMHO there IS a noble self sacrificing call which the Lord can put on a life -- working with untouchable lepers, teaching in schools under severe conditions, giving succour to those dying with no other comfort, enduring untold punishments and torture -- These are things Christians are known for, and the Christian willingness stems from the compassion of our Lord, that others could know Him as we do. What's wrong with the picture of twi and the "call to service" these well-meaning people are answering is that the service twi calls to only serves twi heads of state. Instead of the sweet savor of service to our fellow man being placed in the cup of offering of our life, there is only a bitter poison of hurting people by bringing them into further bondage. Many of us who come to this twi site have been there and done that, and it's a sorrow of our life that's been done. Kit

Amen to CoolWaters. My dad played baseball in college and loved it. Going to a baseball event was fun, from when we were kids to when he was 80+, with his portable tv and thermos of hot tea, the conversation was always pleasant. And now my brothers and sister are planning a baseball reunion together. Kit

Thanks. (not running in safe mode) I deleted some of the x-marked, but it's worse. It put a bunch of desktop items (casinos, etc.) on desktop, and even popups in AOl. I don't know where hijackthis.exe is. I just run it off start/run button. I can search for it and move it to where it should be. This is latest log. Logfile of HijackThis v1.98.1 Scan saved at 3:52:37 PM, on 8/14/2004 Platform: Windows ME (Win9x 4.90.3000) MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106) Running processes: C:WINDOWSSYSTEMKERNEL32.DLL C:WINDOWSSYSTEMMSGSRV32.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMMPREXE.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMMSTASK.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMSSDPSRV.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMMDM.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESCOMMON FILESAOLACSACSD.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESTREND MICROINTERNET SECURITYPCCIOMON.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESTREND MICROINTERNET SECURITYPCCPFW.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESTREND MICROINTERNET SECURITYTMPROXY.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMmmtask.tsk C:WINDOWSSYSTEMRESTORESTMGR.EXE C:WINDOWSEXPLORER.EXE C:WINDOWSTASKMON.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMSYSTRAY.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESCOMMON FILESROXIO SHAREDPROJECT SELECTORPROJSELECTOR.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESROXIOEASY CD CREATOR 6DRAGTODISCDRGTODSC.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESROXIOEASY CD CREATOR 6AUDIOCENTRALRXMON.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMWMIEXE.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESROXIOEASY CD CREATOR 6AUDIOCENTRALPLAYLIST.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESTREND MICROINTERNET SECURITYPCCGUIDE.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESINTERNET EXPLORERIEXPLORE.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESTREND MICROINTERNET SECURITYPCCLIENT.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESTREND MICROINTERNET SECURITYTMOAGENT.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESSPYWARE DOCTORSPYDOCTOR.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESAMERICA ONLINE 9.0AOLTRAY.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESAOL COMPANIONCOMPANION.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESINTERNET EXPLORERIEXPLORE.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESAMERICA ONLINE 9.0WAOL.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESAMERICA ONLINE 9.0SHELLMON.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMSPOOL32.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMRNAAPP.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMTAPISRV.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESAMERICA ONLINE 9.0AOLWBSPD.EXE C:WINDOWSTEMPORARY INTERNET FILESCONTENT.IE5GHAJ0LQVHIJACKTHIS[1]HIJACKTHIS.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMDDHELP.EXE R1 - HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Search Bar = res://C:WINDOWSSYSTEMKIKFAD.DLL/sp.html (obfuscated) R1 - HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Search Page = res://C:WINDOWSSYSTEMKIKFAD.DLL/sp.html (obfuscated) R1 - HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Search Bar = res://C:WINDOWSSYSTEMKIKFAD.DLL/sp.html (obfuscated) R1 - HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Search Page = res://C:WINDOWSSYSTEMKIKFAD.DLL/sp.html (obfuscated) R1 - HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerSearch,SearchAssistant = res://C:WINDOWSSYSTEMKIKFAD.DLL/sp.html (obfuscated) R0 - HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerSearch,SearchAssistant = res://C:WINDOWSSYSTEMKIKFAD.DLL/sp.html (obfuscated) R1 - HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,HomeOldSP = about:blank R1 - HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,HomeOldSP = about:blank O2 - BHO: (no name) - {64818568-29E0-487B-8355-352595A9919A} - C:WINDOWSSYSTEMKIKFAD.DLL O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:Program FilesSpybot - Search & DestroySDHelper.dll O2 - BHO: (no name) - {B5D34A35-A97F-6C37-FD39-2B97861C1350} - C:PROGRAM FILESFAST THEAXIS PLATFORM.EXE O3 - Toolbar: &Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} - C:WINDOWSSYSTEMMSDXM.OCX O4 - HKLM..Run: [scanRegistry] C:WINDOWSscanregw.exe /autorun O4 - HKLM..Run: [TaskMonitor] C:WINDOWStaskmon.exe O4 - HKLM..Run: [PCHealth] C:WINDOWSPCHealthSupportPCHSchd.exe -s O4 - HKLM..Run: [systemTray] SysTray.Exe O4 - HKLM..Run: [LoadPowerProfile] Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme O4 - HKLM..Run: [projselector] "C:Program FilesCommon FilesRoxio SharedProject Selectorprojselector.exe" -r O4 - HKLM..Run: [RoxioEngineUtility] "C:Program FilesCommon FilesRoxio SharedSystemEngUtil.exe" O4 - HKLM..Run: [RoxioDragToDisc] "C:Program FilesRoxioEasy CD Creator 6DragToDiscDrgToDsc.exe" O4 - HKLM..Run: [RoxioAudioCentral] "C:Program FilesRoxioEasy CD Creator 6AudioCentralRxMon.exe" O4 - HKLM..Run: [Type readme] C:PROGRA~1THUNKD~1Tonsmemo.exe O4 - HKLM..Run: [pccguide.exe] "C:Program FilesTrend MicroInternet Securitypccguide.exe" O4 - HKLM..Run: [PCCIOMON.exe] "C:Program FilesTrend MicroInternet SecurityPCCIOMON.exe" O4 - HKLM..Run: [PCClient.exe] "C:Program FilesTrend MicroInternet SecurityPCClient.exe" O4 - HKLM..Run: [TM Outbreak Agent] "C:Program FilesTrend MicroInternet SecurityTMOAgent.exe" /run O4 - HKLM..Run: [bEND PROGRAM PHONE ACTIVE] C:WINDOWSAll UsersApplication DataDale dash bend programfunk bind.exe O4 - HKLM..RunServices: [LoadPowerProfile] Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme O4 - HKLM..RunServices: [schedulingAgent] mstask.exe O4 - HKLM..RunServices: [*StateMgr] C:WINDOWSSystemRestoreStateMgr.exe O4 - HKLM..RunServices: [sSDPSRV] C:WINDOWSSYSTEMssdpsrv.exe O4 - HKLM..RunServices: [Machine Debug Manager] C:WINDOWSSYSTEMMDM.EXE O4 - HKLM..RunServices: [AolAcsDaemon1] "C:PROGRAM FILESCOMMON FILESAOLACSACSD.EXE" O4 - HKLM..RunServices: [PCCIOMON.exe] "C:Program FilesTrend MicroInternet SecurityPCCIOMON.exe" O4 - HKLM..RunServices: [PccPfw] C:Program FilesTrend MicroInternet SecurityPccPfw.exe O4 - HKLM..RunServices: [tmproxy] C:Program FilesTrend MicroInternet Securitytmproxy.exe O4 - HKCU..Run: [spyware Doctor] "C:PROGRAM FILESSPYWARE DOCTORSPYDOCTOR.EXE" /Q O4 - Startup: America Online 9.0 Tray Icon.lnk = C:Program FilesAmerica Online 9.0aoltray.exe O4 - Startup: AOL Companion.lnk = C:Program FilesAOL Companioncompanion.exe O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:PROGRA~1MESSEN~1MSMSGS.EXE O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: MSN Messenger Service - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:PROGRA~1MESSEN~1MSMSGS.EXE O9 - Extra button: Real.com - {CD67F990-D8E9-11d2-98FE-00C0F0318AFE} - C:WINDOWSSYSTEMShdocvw.dll O16 - DPF: {74D05D43-3236-11D4-BDCD-00C04F9A3B61} (HouseCall Control) - http://a840.g.akamai.net/7/840/537/2004033...all/xscan53.cab O16 - DPF: {10000000-1000-0000-1000-000000000000} - ms-its:mhtml:file://C:MAIN.MHT!http://d.dialer2004.com//tv/main.chm::/load.exe O16 - DPF: {4A3CF76B-EC7A-405D-A67D-8DC6B52AB35B} (QDiagAOLCCUpdateObj Class) - http://aolcc.aol.com/computercheckup/qdiagcc.cab O17 - HKLMSystemCCSServicesVxDMSTCP: Domain = aoldsl.net O18 - Filter: text/html - {8CD6C1A8-8B76-4270-8D6B-1B3F867D6157} - C:WINDOWSSYSTEMKIKFAD.DLL O18 - Filter: text/plain - {8CD6C1A8-8B76-4270-8D6B-1B3F867D6157} - C:WINDOWSSYSTEMKIKFAD.DLL Thanks.

thanks for your help. about.blank keeps popping back up, no matter when. I have put the whole kit-n-kaboodle on hold. I think the hard drive needs to be reformatted. I'm printing this out if he wants to follow any of your wonderful suggestions. It's Fred's pc, and I'm letting him fix it. Thanks, again. Learning is such an exciting adventure, and we sure are learning from this one Kit

It doesn't matter what url I type into the space for the homepage, about.blank comes up after 5 seconds or so.

Thank you most kind Pawtucket. about.blank doesn't even wait until reboot to come back. Even if I put in a most wonderful place like GSCAFE.com, it comes back with this "about.blank" which isn't about.blank, but about blankety-blank in about 10 seconds.

can I search for "about.blank" and delete it? ? ?

ran spybot (122 files deleted) and spydoctor 2.1 (12 more deleted) and hijack.exe. Here is the log: Logfile of HijackThis v1.98.1 Scan saved at 9:24:07 AM, on 8/6/2004 Platform: Windows ME (Win9x 4.90.3000) MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106) Running processes: C:WINDOWSSYSTEMKERNEL32.DLL C:WINDOWSSYSTEMMSGSRV32.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMmmtask.tsk C:WINDOWSSYSTEMMPREXE.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMMSTASK.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMSSDPSRV.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMMDM.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESCOMMON FILESAOLACSACSD.EXE C:WINDOWSEXPLORER.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMRESTORESTMGR.EXE C:WINDOWSTASKMON.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMSYSTRAY.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESROXIOEASY CD CREATOR 6DRAGTODISCDRGTODSC.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESTHUNK DATE WINTONSMEMO.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMWMIEXE.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESAMERICA ONLINE 9.0AOLTRAY.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESAOL COMPANIONCOMPANION.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMSPOOL32.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMTAPISRV.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMDDHELP.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESTREND MICROINTERNET SECURITYPCCIOMON.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESTREND MICROINTERNET SECURITYPCCPFW.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESTREND MICROINTERNET SECURITYTMPROXY.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESTREND MICROINTERNET SECURITYPCCLIENT.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESTREND MICROINTERNET SECURITYPCCGUIDE.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESTREND MICROINTERNET SECURITYTMOAGENT.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESAMERICA ONLINE 9.0WAOL.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESAMERICA ONLINE 9.0SHELLMON.EXE C:PROGRAM FILESAMERICA ONLINE 9.0AOLWBSPD.EXE C:WINDOWSSYSTEMRNAAPP.EXE C:WINDOWSRUNDLL32.EXE C:WINDOWSTEMPORARY INTERNET FILESCONTENT.IE5GHAJ0LQVHIJACKTHIS[1]HIJACKTHIS.EXE R1 - HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Search Bar = http://look-today.com/searchbar.html R1 - HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Search Page = http://look-today.com/searchbar.html R1 - HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Search Bar = http://look-today.com/searchbar.html R1 - HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Search Page = http://look-today.com/searchbar.html R1 - HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerSearch,SearchAssistant = http://look-today.com/searchbar.html R0 - HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerSearch,SearchAssistant = http://look-today.com/searchbar.html R1 - HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,HomeOldSP = about:blank R1 - HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,HomeOldSP = about:blank O2 - BHO: (no name) - {89B28CC7-CCEC-4A0A-9F21-F555DC7C42CD} - (no file) O2 - BHO: Windows OleServer - {98DBBF16-CA43-4c33-BE80-99E6694468A4} - C:WINDOWSSYSTEMMSMK.DLL (file missing) O2 - BHO: (no name) - {4BCF322B-9621-4e90-9678-F1424EB7584E} - C:WINDOWSUDPMOD.DLL O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:PROGRAM FILESADOBEACROBAT 6.0READERACTIVEXACROIEHELPER.DLL O2 - BHO: (no name) - {64818568-29E0-487B-8355-352595A9919A} - C:WINDOWSSYSTEMKIKFAD.DLL O2 - BHO: holejoybase - {A0315BB8-C7F3-5DCF-35D6-668B0E65AF11} - C:PROGRAM FILESFAST THEGRIMERROR.DLL O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:Program FilesSpybot - Search & DestroySDHelper.dll O3 - Toolbar: &Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} - C:WINDOWSSYSTEMMSDXM.OCX O3 - Toolbar: DentMeet - {9423BB96-BEB0-4960-9066-CE077B7382A1} - C:PROGRAM FILESFAST THEGRIMERROR.DLL O4 - HKLM..Run: [scanRegistry] C:WINDOWSscanregw.exe /autorun O4 - HKLM..Run: [TaskMonitor] C:WINDOWStaskmon.exe O4 - HKLM..Run: [PCHealth] C:WINDOWSPCHealthSupportPCHSchd.exe -s O4 - HKLM..Run: [systemTray] SysTray.Exe O4 - HKLM..Run: [LoadPowerProfile] Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme O4 - HKLM..Run: [projselector] "C:Program FilesCommon FilesRoxio SharedProject Selectorprojselector.exe" -r O4 - HKLM..Run: [RoxioEngineUtility] "C:Program FilesCommon FilesRoxio SharedSystemEngUtil.exe" O4 - HKLM..Run: [RoxioDragToDisc] "C:Program FilesRoxioEasy CD Creator 6DragToDiscDrgToDsc.exe" O4 - HKLM..Run: [RoxioAudioCentral] "C:Program FilesRoxioEasy CD Creator 6AudioCentralRxMon.exe" O4 - HKLM..Run: [Type readme] C:PROGRA~1THUNKD~1Tonsmemo.exe O4 - HKLM..Run: [pccguide.exe] "C:Program FilesTrend MicroInternet Securitypccguide.exe" O4 - HKLM..Run: [PCCIOMON.exe] "C:Program FilesTrend MicroInternet SecurityPCCIOMON.exe" O4 - HKLM..Run: [PCClient.exe] "C:Program FilesTrend MicroInternet SecurityPCClient.exe" O4 - HKLM..Run: [TM Outbreak Agent] "C:Program FilesTrend MicroInternet SecurityTMOAgent.exe" /run O4 - HKLM..RunServices: [LoadPowerProfile] Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme O4 - HKLM..RunServices: [schedulingAgent] mstask.exe O4 - HKLM..RunServices: [*StateMgr] C:WINDOWSSystemRestoreStateMgr.exe O4 - HKLM..RunServices: [sSDPSRV] C:WINDOWSSYSTEMssdpsrv.exe O4 - HKLM..RunServices: [Machine Debug Manager] C:WINDOWSSYSTEMMDM.EXE O4 - HKLM..RunServices: [AolAcsDaemon1] "C:PROGRAM FILESCOMMON FILESAOLACSACSD.EXE" O4 - HKLM..RunServices: [PCCIOMON.exe] "C:Program FilesTrend MicroInternet SecurityPCCIOMON.exe" O4 - HKLM..RunServices: [PccPfw] C:Program FilesTrend MicroInternet SecurityPccPfw.exe O4 - HKLM..RunServices: [tmproxy] C:Program FilesTrend MicroInternet Securitytmproxy.exe O4 - Startup: America Online 9.0 Tray Icon.lnk = C:Program FilesAmerica Online 9.0aoltray.exe O4 - Startup: AOL Companion.lnk = C:Program FilesAOL Companioncompanion.exe O9 - Extra button: Related - {c95fe080-8f5d-11d2-a20b-00aa003c157a} - C:WINDOWSwebrelated.htm O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Show &Related Links - {c95fe080-8f5d-11d2-a20b-00aa003c157a} - C:WINDOWSwebrelated.htm O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:PROGRA~1MESSEN~1MSMSGS.EXE O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: MSN Messenger Service - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:PROGRA~1MESSEN~1MSMSGS.EXE O9 - Extra button: Real.com - {CD67F990-D8E9-11d2-98FE-00C0F0318AFE} - C:WINDOWSSYSTEMShdocvw.dll O16 - DPF: {74D05D43-3236-11D4-BDCD-00C04F9A3B61} (HouseCall Control) - http://a840.g.akamai.net/7/840/537/2004033...all/xscan53.cab O16 - DPF: {10000000-1000-0000-1000-000000000000} - ms-its:mhtml:file://C:MAIN.MHT!http://d.dialer2004.com//tv/main.chm::/load.exe O16 - DPF: {4A3CF76B-EC7A-405D-A67D-8DC6B52AB35B} (QDiagAOLCCUpdateObj Class) - http://aolcc.aol.com/computercheckup/qdiagcc.cab O17 - HKLMSystemCCSServicesVxDMSTCP: Domain = aoldsl.net O18 - Filter: text/html - {EDD4D320-8415-40CF-A658-781F63120D95} - C:WINDOWSSYSTEMKIKFAD.DLL O18 - Filter: text/plain - {EDD4D320-8415-40CF-A658-781F63120D95} - C:WINDOWSSYSTEMKIKFAD.DLL And the Windows explorer page is still the page that with address "about.blank" and it keeps coming back, even if I type another address.

Thanks. I turned on my pc, went to page, wrote down the download page address, turned off my pc, turned on fred's pc, typed in address, and it took me to page. Such a deal, but spyware from download.com is running. What's the difference between the four places you can download from? kit

Would you be able to post a link to download? Fred's IE is messed up and puts a bunch of gobbledegook when I hit the download link on spybot website.

Thank you so very much.

So glad you got out in the most painless way possible ----- JMO wounded spirit, or wounded soul is far more painful and difficult to heal than wounded body. A wounded body everyone can see and either take compassion on you, help, make things easier, etc. But wounded spirit and wounded soul can't be seen. . . those so broken are in a worse place I think. Hopefully,