Kit Sober

"Figure of speech" is not a throwaway word, but an emphasis. Duh! God's emotions are more than ours because He is more alive than us. He feels more than us. He knows the full impact of our efforts to live with Him as well as the full impact of our shortcomings. It's my opinion that the hardhearted response, "God doesn't cry He's spirit," probably caused a rain of tears as He wept.

Mental illness: Been there done that. Certainly staying in twi for 20+ years is sign of severe mental illness. I don't do meds, but I still do Jesus Christ, Bible, Church, and Greasespot Cafe for comfort and respite from the storms of life. A few weeks ago I found an out-of-print book, "God is for the emotionally ill," and was reading it at work. A guy said, "I resent that title." I said, "I didn't ask your opinion." (Surprised myself!!!) My best friend, who has stuck with me in and out of years -- we were in sunday school together in 1952 --- is like your friend with schizophrenia (voices, high meds, on welfare, and she has diabetes, too). Only by God's mercy and grace she hasn't quit, for which I am so thankful, because she is my friend. And she has remained kindhearted and friendly to me. And the book, above? A nice truly Christian medical doctor who had served as a medical missionary in China and Africa gives Bible hideout (as in shelter from the storm) for emotional trials and tribulations. His basic principle is that the world is killing us, the Bible provides rules for healthy living, and Jesus can be and serve as a shelter from the storms of life. In hope,

My congrats with the others. Now you can get on the bandwagon to fight against or for, depending upon your viewpoint, flouride and other city additives/pollutants. Such a treat. I've only had well water for a short time, but it was sweet, and so especially nice to not be dependent upon the city water. Thankfully,

Oldiesman previously, Indeed, there is speaking in tongues outside of twi. And Holy Spirit is teaching the good usage and benefits of speaking in tongues outside of twi. vpw plagarized what others said about speaking in tongues and acted like he was the only one Holy Spirit could speak to about such things, but this is not so. :)RHST, as mentioned above, is plagarized from JE Stiles. He did not author that work. My copy does not have a publish date, but gives a date in the forward of 1/21/48. Maybe it could be put on the Greasespot archives if it's in the public domain? My copy gives an address of Mrs. JE Stiles, PO Box 3147, Burbank, California, if anyone wants to pursue that angle. Just a few days ago I watched Kenneth and Gloria Copeland's daughter, Kelly, give a wonderful teaching on speaking in tongues in the church that was delivered with the essence of speaking in tongues needs to be translated when used in the church, meeting needs to be with decorum etc. etc. No arrogance. No foaming at the mouth insulting Christians other than those in her group. Just nice: "This is what the Bible says, and we need to do it." Many other Christian ministries also teach about speaking in tongues because it is a powerful tool the Lord has given us for our work and a weapon for our warfare, and speaking in tongues is true. And I doubt these ministries are getting on the bandwagon that twi started. I am just very sorry that twi's bandwagon dumped the charity that should be foundational to using all the blessings from the Lord. Speaking in tongues was before twi and outside of twi, and speaking in tongues will continue until the cows come home, so to speak.

Unfortunately, when straining gnats, all one is left with is the gnats, and whatever good was there usually is lost in the process (the for-God-so-loved-the-world stuff). I think Ohio cornfields are fertile field for gnat straining. My husband, Fred-from-Akron-Ohio, has, as long as I know him (which is long before twi for us), uses a set number of squares of toilet paper for his BR routine, which needs to happen at a specific time of day or he is miserable until the next day at the appointed time, when (hopefully) he can get back on track. Some people are like that. But God's love (still) can cover a multitude of sins. Hopefully,

My momma told me, "Don't listen to people who talk behind the back of others because if they would talk behind the back of someone to you, they would talk behind the back of you to someone else."

"Taught in twi" gets my hackles up because it's "twi" (whatever that is) taking credit for what the Holy Spirit is able to teach us. Spiritual matters are only learned by the heart from the Holy Spirit. twi taught the only mechanics of stuff, and that's why so many were so hurt. We were not introduced to The Teacher -- the Holy Spirit. Truly spiritual matters are not mechanical things to be learned, but a love to be lived (I always liked KJV "charity" because it has the element of kindness in it). Over in the Prayer forum was this, and it got me laughing because I not only do not know who the poster is outside of the screen name, but certainly I cannot guess at what he needs (poster says it's a "he"). I don't know anything to do except speak in tongues.

pdf documents are also what-you-see-is-what-you-get. I just emailed Fred a document that I scanned into "photoshop" and he couldn't read it. Anyone can read a pdf document. You might not have Wordperfect or Word, but you could read the pdf document.

Praying with everyone else that these things work out for you. Both health wise and job wise. So glad you have each other. Some day we will laugh about these things. Hopefully, it's soon. Very soon.

For us, apprentice year, one year in residence, WOW year. Glad it's over. Sorry it happened. Can say no more.

Search the scriptures daily was a commandment Del Duncan told us, and Michael Martin told me to (1) test every teaching and (2) read Ephesians every day, both of which I did for 20 years. I wore out at least 10 Oxford and Cambridge wide margin bibles with my scribbles. Stuff between me and the Holy Spirit as I worked to bend my mind into an Ephesians shape. The things I found that didn't fit, I found it was better not to say so. And they made me not to fit into that place, too. Note: "Also" is important because of the way it binds together lists of things and, according to Bullinger (in the twi reprint, which is the only twi-printed thing I think I still have), emphasizes the word it precedes. "Also" was precious to Bullinger, similarly precious to an infant's fingers and toes. But, like an infant's toes and fingers have a relative importance to the affection you hold for the child, so usage of the word "also" and other little things are precious if they are little things you look at in something you love. Such was a Bible to Bullinger. And I hate what vpw did to cheat so many, including me, of our open-hearted time to learn with the Holy Spirit because vpw made himself as the place of God in our lives. (God will reward him accordingly.) Each of us sees a part of the face of the Lord as he reads, and that's why we need each other to learn of Him -- Each of us sees what another cannot.

Speaking in tongues. Speaking in tongues does not replace or cloud thinking, but cleans out cobwebs and gives Holy Spirit a chance to show different vantage points of a situation. Like tuning a fiddle. It puts me in better harmony with Him. The applicable analogy of the Ford trying to explain Henry did not originate with vpw -- I have found found most of vpw's "good stuff" was plagarized. Speaking in tongues gets me places I cannot go without it. I am thankful for the ride. It works for me. Speaking in tongues gives me a way to pray for those things I know not. It's groanings of the spirit I cannot articulate. There's been so many tsunami's in my life I'd be lost without speaking in tongues. It's really a comfort to the soul. Wish I had that SIT card now.

I had an aunt who would unplug all the electrical appliances before going to bed. . . I think cell phones are here to stay. And IMHO they bring us so closer. My brother is deaf and uses some kind of one and I just had an IM conversation with him when he was on a train in Connecticut going to New York for a deaf conference of some kind. I pray for wisdom and understanding for people using them. Have read about the danger to brain waves and cancer, and pray for the kids that use them so constantly.

"Friendship" as a concept was ignored in twi because the concept cuts across religious affiliations. So sorry for the breaking up of friendships caused by twi. Friendships don't break because of time, but because people's hearts are broken, which is what twi did to people. A perfect example is as Belle spoke of where people cannot exercise their friendly compassion for one another. I thank God that my three close friends stuck in and out of twi -- although I surely tested their friendship by my ridiculous twi mind set. I did a study on friendship when I was in twi and could not find twi affiliation in there. The concept of friend is very biblical. Even wicked Haman had his friends. Another topic that is close to friendship is blood brothers. A girlfriend and I did this (we were about 12 I think), and even though it's been over 50 years since I have seen her (both moved away from that neighborhood), I pray for her and wish her well upon every remembrance. p.s. I think soldiers develop strong friendships because they have their lives on the line for one another, and this goes beyond rank. I am very thankful for the US Marine Corps for teaching son Paul how to be a true friend. Hopefully,

IMHO, having that ex-marine Thomas come forward was worth the cost of the movie. I'm glad we are reminded. IMHO time doesn't heal wounds of the heart and soul, only the Lord can do so,

Happy Anniversary from another one who is so thankful you got out and continue to share your loving kindness.

Internet is about all I can handle right now. I miss the get-togethers of the twi years, but am content with things the way they are, and my current situation requires me to get involved with other Christians and other Christian groups for food, fun, fellowship, and the Word. August of this year is 11 years since I got the boot. And I am so thankful to be able to be out of that place. (lcm kicked me out, and I will be forever grateful for that act of mercy upon me.) In hope,

I am really slow. Took me 4 times doing it to figure out what the instructions were asking. But then I was ok. Lord have mercy on this slow cookie.

Miracles -- beyond the parking-space type -- I still love the parking-space miracles. They are the daily rest to my soul. . Mary Belavitz brought her little car to Fred to fix. He is testing the valves. She needs a valve job. Expensive. Fred tests again, the pressure goes up. Fred says whatever you're doing keep doing it. Pressure on all valves go up to pass. Mary says, "I had such and such money to go to the Advanced class (California February 7?) and told the Father I really wanted to go..." Mary's car was a treasure with a bumper sticker that said, "Wise men still seek Him." When Del Duncan wanted to thank Mary for baby sitting Aaron and Luke, he and Nancy got Mary a set of much needed tires. Seeing Mary and her car on the road was a blessing, always. . Our son Paul 3 or 4 yrs old was hit with a frisbee or something on his eye at the Rock. Tim ___'s daughter Ruth, about the same age, came over and prayed for Paul. We took him to hospital in New Bremen(or St Mary's?). He was fine. When Paul was born, 5/14/75 he was premie, neonatal ICU. I brought him to roa. That was a wet one. Made a portable tent for his bassinette out of the tent bag. He was fine and healthy and grew strong and healthy and kind hearted. Served as a chef in US Marine Corps in Desert Storm. .Any moment with Del Duncan could be a living miracle in motion moment because,I believe, he saw the face of God in Jesus Christ. .Other car miracles, and angels,too, that were part of the back and forth to Ohio each summer those 20 years from 1973 to 1995 (mostly California to and from). .The walk with the Lord watching over us firmly built that relationship with Him / that trust and confidence that God is good and loves me so very much has kept me alive to this day.

ditto to the thoughts of the tragedy of wasting the hope and enthusiasm of youth on a stagnant pool of a cult that will not lead them into the broad fellowship with the Lord and his many people out in the true living waters of life. God has provided that it's not only people like yourselves, who believe your small little puff of doctrine, but also others and the giving and receiving processes that provide for a whole life, and expand one's understanding of who the The Lord is.

I now carry a handy little plastic bag with toilet seat covers and wipes. Have used it, too. Also an instant toilet seat cover may be simply made with 9 squares of tp, three each way.

What about lightning? Here in Reno last nite we had the worst I have seen here (been here 11 years). Is it just a case of "can't run can't hide"? If I'm driving in the very flat road on the plain fields of this place -- a bump on the road with an antenna -- should I take the antenna off? Heard about a guy working on his pc when his house was struck by lightning and he lost his hands and forearms. Any good ways to protect yourself. Next time I will do with the electrical cautions in the house noted above. Last nite I was driving home from work in the worst of it -- 30 minutes of it -- and became frightened it was so much lightning, thunder, and rain. Thanks for any help you have.

Oh my. I had a call from an ex-twi friend (whose life pretty much came to a halt when the nefarious twi was exposed). I hadn't heard from in years. It must have been because his internal clock was hoping for travel plans for getting to his happy good-food-good-fellowship-good-fun roa. So sad that so much happiness has been torn out of our lives. Judgement day will be good. Very good. I think.

This wonderful Greasespot Cafe is a twi-bashing place. People have been hurt by that place, and this is a place for those of us who want to vent it out. twi hurt me and my loved ones, and it is nice to have a place to come and say, "whatapileofcrapthatwas" in as many words as I'd like to use. Note: The Amish don't live with that element of cruelty that is part and parcel of twi, then and now. having my say,

And there's also the story of what happened when the Lord gave instructions to current day engineer, Noah, to build the ark: