Thomas Loy Bumgarner

She is a member of The Hymn Society of the United States of America and Canada. Will check out the Canadian hymnals Hymnbook of Common Praise(Anglican Church of Canada) and Voices United(United Church of Canada; part Methodist, Presbyterian, and Congregationalist). Back in touch by Sunday.

Cynic, you are up next.

Kim, I am sorry that your step-Dad abused you and am glad that you are healing from this event. However, you did not say if he was arrested for child molestation, put on trial, and jailed. If that is too personal, please forgive me.

Quotes are from The Disconuity Guide to the Worlds and Timess of Doctor Who by Paul Cornell, Martin Day, and Keith Topping. My nickname/signature should have been a clue. Now back to Hymns forum.

No. This show started in 1963, ran til 1989, brought back in 2005 and just finished its 4th season(new version).

George, except for the crown him Lord of all phrase, the rest is not normally found in most hymnals. Tunes include Coronation, Miles Lane, and Diadem.

Homo Sapiens. What an inventive, invicible species. It's only a few million years since they crawled up out of the mud and learned how to walk. Puny, defenseless bipeds. They have survived flood, famine, and plague. They have survived cosmic wars and holocausts. And now here they are, out among the stars, waiting to begin a new life. Ready to outsit eternity. They are indomitable.

Correct. You are up next.

No, though it is Science Fictiion You know, for a man who abhors violence, I took great satisfaction in doing that. It's another rotten, gloomy old tunnel. The old man must die, and the new man will discover to his inexpressible joy that he has never existed.

next tune is "Ein Feste Burg is Unser Gott". Translation is by Thomas Carlyle. "God's Word , for all their craft and force, one moment will not linger. But spite of hell shall have its course, tis written by His finger. And thou they take our life, goods, fame, children, wife. their profit is small; these things shall vanish all, the city of God remaineth." Alternate translation is by Carl Flentege Schalck and Samuel Francis Janzow(LBW, L-W, LSB, ELW). The more familar translation is by Frederick Hedge.

This thing doesn't roll on wheels you know. Fear makes companions of all of us. If you could touch the alien sand and hear the cry of strange birds and watch them wheel in another sky, would that satisfy you?

I strongly suspect that Wierwille had a major falling out with the Northwestern Synod of Ohio of the Evangelical and Reformed Church's classis and it's presidents like Emil Basler. Implications are VPW disliked the authority and structure. btw, There is no record of Wierwille being offered a ThD from Yale, Harvard, Cambridge, or Oxford in turn for a professorship at these institutions. There was a rumor uncheked that Nyack College of the Christian Missionary Alliance was considering giving VPW an honorary doctorate in theology, but withdrew the offer when Wierwille lambasted all denominations in his infamous Dilema of Foreign Missions, where he criticised the E&R, Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians, Catholics, etc. of slave trade and manipulations. Some also speculate that Wierwille was going to run as a dark horse candidate for the presidency of the newly formed UCC against Robert Moss(pastor at Corinth E&R church in Hickory,NC). But that may be conjecture(no proof).

L.A.LAW?

Cynic, Wesley's hymn "O for a thousand tongues to sing" was based on translation brother John had made of this Lutheran Germanic Chorale. busy today and tommorrow. On Friday will post a more familar hymn.

Will post next hymn on Friday.

O that I had a 1,000 voices to praise my God with thousand tongues!

The Charles Wesley mention should have also been a dead give away. Will post the answer tommorrow.

Metric number(based on syllables) is 989888. The german title should have been a give away(simialr to English words).

I took my cue based on the last hymn you had posted. Try another stanza or 3, starting with #2 O all you powers that He implanted, arise, keep silence now no more; Put forth the strength that God has granted! Your noblest work it is adore! O soul and body, join to raise with heart felt joy our Maker's praise! #3. You forest leaves so green and tender that dance for joy in summer air, you meadows grasses bright and slender, you flowers so fragrant and so fair, You live to show God's praise alone.Join me to make his glory known! 4. All creatures that have breath and motion, that throng the earth, the sea, the sky, Come share with me my heart's devotion, Help me to sing God's praises high! My utmost powers can never quite declare the wonders of his might". Lutheran organist Paul Manz composed organ variations on both tunes previously mentioned.

Charles Wesley was influenced by this hymn. It starts out with similar words(that hymn tune was Azmon by Carl Glaser). But his familar hymn is not what I want, but rather the Lutheran Germanic chorale(5 stanzas adapted grom the Lutheran Hymnal, 1941).

Text is by Johann Mentzer. 2 tunes with the same name are used; O dass ich taesund zungen hatte(one by Johann Konig, the other by Kornelius Heinrich Dretzel). "Creator, humbly I implore you to listen to my earthly song until that day when I adore you, when I have joined the angel throng and learned with choirs of heaven to sing eternal anthems to my King!

Immortal, Invisible, God only wise. Will post the next hymn tommorrow.

Sounds like it was a Roman Catholic hymn, possibly found in Our Parish Sings and Prays/Collegeville Hymnal from St. John's Abbey in Collegeville,MN (Liturgical Press) or Choral Praise(Oregon Catholic Press). Not too likely to be in any GIA Publications like Worship II/3rd edition, Gather(Comprehensive), RitualSong, or Hymns for the Hours. Not found in any Lutheran or Episcopalian hymnal.

OK, let's try something more familar to everyone. "Forbid it God, that I should boast in the death Christ, my Lord; all the vain that charm me most, I sacrifice them to His blood." btw, that is the correct original way that stanza read before Trinitarians switched "Lord" and "God". Lyrics are by Issac Watts(3 other stanzas are very familar). Tunes are O Waly Waly(Welsh); Rockingham Old(English); and Hamburg by Lowell Mason. It is this tune that Chris Tomlin added a refrain(that I might die and truly live).

Socks, you think that was bad. Chick sent me a pm and used profanity that would embarrass Marine Sergants and Gordon Ramsey, threatening me personally. I informed Talk Soup website about this and they promised that she was now banned from ever responding anything on their forums. Boy, talk about arrogance. Sad.