Thomas Loy Bumgarner

So now TWI teaches you tongues and interpretation in recognizable human languages. The holy spirit is no longer necessary :P :lol: :unsure: :wacko: :blink: :ph34r:

Next one is a Latin hymn translated by Charles Coffin, sung to 3 tunes:Winchester New(arranged by William Havergall), Puer Nobis Nascitur(adapted by Michael Praetorius), and Alstone(English tune). All are LM(Long Meter). omitting 1st 6 words, !. Announces that the Lord is near; awake and listen , for he brings glad tidings of the King of kings! 2. Then cleansed be every life from sin; make straight the way for God within, and let us all our hearts prepare for Christ to come and enter there. 3. We hail you as our Savior, Lord, our refuge and our great reward; without your grace we waste away like flowers that wither and decay. 4. Stretch forth your hand, our health restore, and make us rise to fall no more; Oh let your face upon us shine and fill the world with love divine. 5. All praise to you eternal Son, whose Advent has our freedom won, whom with the Father we adore, and Holy Spirit evermore.

and time is up. The answer(my friends is blowing in the wind ) is Come now(thou) long expected Jesus. Oh in case you haven't realised it, most hymns no longer use Shakesperian/Tudor language like "thee, thou, thy, thine, hast, hath, wert, and art" and sometimes I use it(modern terms) even if it is not so in the hymn.

Cheranne, you aren't leaving GSC, are you?

meant to say reign.

Next one is a Charles Wesley text that has been sung to Stuttgart, Hyfrydol, St. Hilary(English melody), and Jefferson-Southern Appalachian mountain tune from William Walker's Southern Harmony(originally in shape notes). omitting first 5 words. 1. Born to set your people free; From our fears and sins release us; Let us find our rest in you. Israel's strength and consolation, hope of all the Earth you are, dear Desire of every nation, joy of every longing heart. 2. Born your people to deliver, born a child and yet a King; Born to reing in us forever, now your gracious kingdom bring, by your own eternal Spirit rule in all our hearts alone; By your all sufficient merit raise us to your glorious throne.

Now I would have loved seeing Wierwille, Martindale, and/or Geer getting that "squid pie" .

ClayJay, Welcome to the Cafe. Have some eggnog. I promise it is free, no charge, no payment, no donation.

Savior of the nations come

Welcome to the hotel Wierwille/Martindale :unsure: :wacko: :blink:

will give until tommorrow for guesses to title.

Cher, under groups type The Way International like you might do for any potential group that is on Facebook(if you have an account there-not sure about visitors).Likewise for Spirit and Truth Fellowship.

John, I think your intentions are honorable. However, some here having been bitten once by someone offering good intentions like the late Victor Paul Wierwille are hesitant to take up generous offers such as yours without becoming suspicious and thinking trading one cult for another. Some prefer Lutheran pastor John Juddes occasionally dropping by to comment without convincing us to join his congregation out in California. Some were deprogrammed without their consent and are angry at all religion, making no distinction. Me personally, I sometimes regret ever getting involved with The Way International. I could have gotten a Masters degree in Music, been married and had children, but the lure of Scientificly researching the Bible and being told that all Christians should be ordained, knowing everything that Pastors and priests learned in seminary is mandatory for all believers was intriguing to me when I was 18/19 years old, but instead being spoon-fed what was correct doctrine and every other Christian denominational teaching was heresy and blasephemy(and the clergy/theologians knew it was but did not care) really warped my mind, taking me from 1973 through 1979 when I left, and really has never totally escaped from it nor has been complete healing process. BTW, I also belong to Classmates, Reunion, and Facebook websites. Thanks for letting me getting this off my chest.

4.God the Father is His source, back to God He runs His course; down to death and hell descends, God's high throne He reascends. 5. He leaves heaven to return; traveling where dull hellfires burn; riding out, returning home as the Savior who has come. 6. God the Father's precious Son girds himself inflesh to run for the trophies of our souls, longer than this round Earth rolls. 7. Shining stable in the night, breathing victory with your light; darkness can not hide your flame, Shining bright as Jesus' name.

Maybe someone should have read Charles Dickens' "A Christmas Carol" to Wierwille, Martindale, Howard Allen, and the rest of the gang. Proably VPW and LCM would have exorcised the Christmas spirits as devil spirits, and never changed their attitude. (or is it?).

Next Advent hymn is originaly taken from the Latin(Veni Redemptor Genitium) by St. Ambrose(2nd or 3rd Cent. Church Father), translated into German by Martin Luther as Nun Komm Der Heiden Heiland. English is by William Reynolds and Martin Seltz. Meter is 7777 and has 7 stanzas. Omitting the first 5 words, 1. Show the glory of your Son! Every person stand in awe; praise the perfect Son of God. 2. Not of human seed or worth, but from God's own mystic breath, fruit in Mary's womb begun, when God breathed the Word, His Son. 3. Wondrous birth! O wondrous child of the virgin undefiled! Mighty God and man in one, eager now His race to run. Many composers for organ and choral have settings on this Germanic Lutheran Chorale, including Bach and Manz.

Angels from the realms of glory; text by James Montgomery, tume is Regent Square. Will post next one on Thursday.

Congrats George! Any Advent, Christmas, or Epiphany hymn is up to you. Alternate title is Sleepers Awake! A voice astounds us.Please no Santa Claus or winter songs.

Our 1st Advent hymn is Wachet Auf die ruf stimme. Text and tune originally written by Hans Sachs, revised by Philipp Nicolai(1556-1608). Translated by Catherine Winkworth(1829-1878), updated by Eric Routley and Carl Daw. Peculiar/Irregular meter. 1st stanza(omitting first 6 words):The watchmen on the heights are crying; Awake Jerusalem at last. Midnight hears the welcome voices, and at the thrilling cry rejoices; "Come forth you maidens! Night is past. The Bridegroom comes! Awake; your lamps with gladness take!" Alleluia! Prepare yourselves to meet the Lord;whose light has has stirred the waiting guard. 2. Zion hears the watchmen singing, and in her heart new joy is springing, she wakes, she rises from her gloom, for her Lord comes down all glorious, the strong in grace , in truth victorious. Her star is risen; her light is come. O come now blessed one, Lord Jesus, God's own Son. Sing hosanna! We go until the halls we view where you have bid us dine with You. 3. Now let all the heavens adore you, and saints and angels sing before you. The harps and cybals all unite. Of one pearl each shining portal, where dwelling with the choir immortal, we gather round your dazzling light. No eye has seen, no ear has et been trained to hear. What joy is ours! Crescendos rise; your halls resound; Hosannas blend in cosmic sound. extra clues: This is the King of Chorales and arrangements for organ are by Johann Sebatian Bach and Paul Manz. Alternate title is Sleepers, Awake! Based on parable of 5 wise and 5 foolish virgins from Gospel of Matthew.

VPW?

With the exception of Nostradamus, the present discussion is focusing on December 21, 2012(Mayan prophecy). Nostradamus thought it was 1 Million AD(Common Era).

On Monday we will look at Advent and Christmas hymns. ps forgot to include Count your many blessings; In all things give him thanks; Give thanks to the risen Lord; Lord I want to give you thanks/Thank you Lord; Jesus, we just want to thank you; For all these things; We are so blessed; In thanksgiving, let us praise Him.

Forgot to mention Beta from Neil Anderson. Alpha is from Holy Trinity Anglican Church, Brompton Road; Open Home, Open Bible(Paul Blackman & Richard Bewes)- All Souls Langeham Place; Christian Believer and Beginings are from Abingdon/Cokesbury(United Methodist); Foundations 101/Purpose Driven-Saddleback; etc.

Titles of Thanksgiving hymns: For the beauty of the Earth Come, you thankful people come We plow the fields and scatter We gather together/We praise you, O God Now thank we all our God Sing to the Lord of harvest Let all things now living Thanks to God for my redeemer O let your soul now be filled with gladness As saints of old their firstfruits Lord of light your name outshining Take my life that I may be consecrated God whose giving knows no ending Praise and thanksgiving Father we offer We give you but your own Lord of all good For the fruit of all creation

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