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the Shakepearian story though is that Oedipus didn't realize he had killed his father or that his wife was his mother. It was a sad event brought about by the predictions of the oracle. Nonetheless Oedipus did find himself attracted to an older woman and actually had children by her. In the end when he found out his sin, he gouged out his eyes and wandered to his death. Sad story. maybe more young men should read the story.

Good question.

Oh Michael, I just couldn't there is this thing in my head that says WRONG!!! I don't understand other women my who need that sort of thing to make themselves feel younger.

I can't speak from experience Michael but I would be willing to bet you are right. There was this 21 year old in Nebraska when I was living there, he was a virgin and everytime I saw him he begged me to be his first. I told him I just couldn't and his first time should be with someone special not someone that could be his mom. He wouldn't hear it and every once in a while I hear from him and it's the same thing. relentless little bugger.

Interesting to get an older man's perspective. The younger guys have a much different take. I guess I am exposed to that more than most women my age because I am a student at the local university and 98% of the men I am around could be my sons.

Oakspear, you thought it was crudely put. lol. Sorry didn't mean to be crude but that's what those young men are looking for. I have asked a couple of them and their response was that we older women "know what we want" and that we "know what we are doing" and the funniest thing I heard was that we "don't kiss and tell". Reminds me of a song "Stacy's Mom Has Got it Going On"

I have been accused of that too cowgirl. It's usually some 20 year old that wants a mommy to teach him the ropes. I am amazed at how many 20 year old boys are looking to be with their mommy.

RainbowsGirl might be interested in some of your old way stuff. Her son loves the music if you are letting go of any of that.

(((Dot))) How horrible to find out such a horrible truth. YOu are worth much better treatment. At least you didn't have to deal with what a friend of mine had to deal with. Her husband would picture another guy while he and she,,,, you know :redface:

Hey Ron np. It was a new lesson in life for me. Belle sweetie thanks for sharing your story too. It's amazing that there are so many slime balls out there.

Fellowshipper. I never really was interested in him romantically so I just tended to believe him based on trust that was built between us and never had reason to see if there were ring marks. And yes there were other women that he actually was with during our friendship that were not his wife. And as one of his scorned women check into his history, something I am not inclined to do but then again I am not one of his women scorned just a friend that was lied to, but as she checks him out she feels the need to send me information about his sordid past. That is one thing I do wish would stop as I have heard enough. For her it's a need to construct the truth in attempt to vindicate herself. I feel real sorry for these women and have done what I can to let them know they are worthwhile. But I may have to stop doing that because the barrage of information about this guy is wearing me out. And no I am not really all that anxious about finding a guy per se as I am way too busy. I have a full time schedule in School and at Work, and I raise 3 kids on my own. My time is limited and my social life challenged. Last night I could have been out on a date and I chose to spend the time at home. My kids were spending their one night a week with their dad. That's my night to let loose. What did I chose to do? Stay home. I was so tired I just wanted to lay around going out with the guy that asked me out would have taken too much energy. lol. Is that a sign of old age or what. lol

Garth he broke the mold and lost. Thank God. Could you have imagined what he would have done in an official position. Imagine the women he would have hurt. OMG. I am glad he lost.

((((Dot)))) Hippo Birdie two Ewes. Hope it's a great day.

amazing performances Sudo. I haven't seen that movie but it seems a bit dark. However, I did thoroughly enjoy watching it. Thanks for sharing. Dot and Ex thanks for the encouragement.

HCW - pee cures a lot of ailments. If you ever get athletes foot put pee soaked socks on your feet and wrap platic bags around that. It will disappear. How do I know? An old hunter guy I knew when I was a young girl in the way told me this. I never forgot. My oldest somehow got athletes foot when she was 4 so I would have her pee in a cup and I treated her feet and in 24hours it was gone. No lie. it works.

Sudo, I am not young. I am on my way to the big 50, will be 44 in a couple of months. But that doesn't really bother me. I wasn't in love with this creep, I just considered him a good friend but the whole event did remind me of why we became friends. One of the biggest heartbreaks of my life. Now I remember the man he helped me get over and that pain does resurface. But once this is all history it too will subside. I am not concerned with finding love per se. I realized a mom of 3 little ones has little hope of that. I am comfortable being in my skin and being with me. Maybe a bit too comfortable. lol. But I am social and friendship is important. But friendship that is built on honesty and openness. Not this farce I have been a part of for nearly two years. And yes I feel for those he has truly hurt. I am still in shock at the fact that I believed the bs this man put down. I am in shock that I have been his friend for 2 years and never even suspected he was married. I always thought this guy literally walked on water to accomplish all he did and from that I felt inferior because I couldn't handle all he had on his plate and keep my house clean and do all the activities with my children that he does with his. But he did have help. I go to school full time, work full time and raise three kids. My house is alway below my standard of clean, my laundry is never caught up, and I feel like life gets away from me. Here was this man raising 5 kids on his own and managing everything else. Running his own business, running for public office, managing one on one time with each of his 5 kids, coaching their sports teams, being involved in many of the local groups and organizations, public service all the way. And he did it without a wife. I would look at that and think I wasn't living up to the standard that I should be living up to. Now I can be easier on myself and stop criticizing the fact that I can't keep up with my load and he can because he has someone full time supporting he and his children. He has the help that I don't have. In a way that was liberating.

Thanks for you kind words. I am not really hurt for myself but for the other women he did hurt and especially his wife. I never was attracted to him that way. We were just friends. I guess I just feel for everyone else more than I should. But truth is I don't have any pity for him and I would like to see him pay for what he has done to these beautiful women. He truly is a loser and these women were really hurt by him.

Naivete, that's something of which I am often accused. Proof in point; This day when I find out someone I have been friends with for nearly two years has been lying to me throughout the entire time. Now I don't plan on going into the details of the lies since that would only cause hurt to his wife of two years. A woman I had no clue, until today, even existed. It was the end of October beginning of November 2005 when I met this man. I had just been tragically dumped by a man that I can say I truly loved. It had to be love since even after finding out that he had been addicted to perscription medications I was willing to stand by his side and help him through it. He asked me to move in so that we could help each other, he said that even if a romance didn't work out that we could still help each other by living together. It sounded like the perfect arrangement as he explained what it would be like, but because of the addiction I felt that it would be best for him not to have to deal with three active children. I even spoke to his best friend to get her take and she felt it was best not to move in but her perspective was more because of the influence this man would have on my children. So I began backing down from that arrangement. Then for reasons not fully understood by me, he dumped me. I can say that I don't ever recall having such feelings for a man as I did that guy. So imagine the pain I felt when he decided I was unworthy of his love. I was pretty close to being suicidal at that point considering my financial woes, losing a man I truly loved, and now finding myself with all these emotions to sort through. (consequently I have not found a man I can love more since losing him.) But a hero arrived on the scene, He made me feel beautiful and loved and worthwhile. We went on a date but the feelings I had for him didn't match the feelings he had for me. Or should I say the feelings he made me believe he had for me. I loved him for his 'wisdom' and care and concern for others, but I was not "in love" with him. To me this man was becoming one of my best friends. He was someone I could call when I was upset and he would talk me down and if he ever needed me I would have been there for him as well. Nearly two years our friendship continued. We went through a time when an anonymous person on the internet was slandering me. They would write him and tell him lies about me. One of which was that I was getting married, and few other choice lies more vicious and slanderous. He played Santa for my daughter Bethany one christmas which was very sweet of him. Needless to say when I started to receive word that he was someone other than what he presented to me it was hard for me to swallow. I initially wrote it off as a bunch of bull or a woman scorned but as more and more information came to me it started to fit with little holes I had seen during our two years of friendship. Today I find out that he's been married all this time, I even spoke with his wife. Here he has been giving his friendship to me when he should have been giving those goodies to his wife. I find that he has lied to others about me. This woman knew all about our date the time frame of it and many other true details along with the lies. Lies that I only called this man for money and never gave him "anything" in return if you know what I mean. I never asked him for one thin dime and all but one time refused his offers. The one time I did accept his offer it was only as a loan, and only because I was in a position where I would lose all my furniture and big ticket items if I didn't get the use of a moving van. The only money he ever gave me was a loan for 400 for that moving van. Everything else I out right refused but he tells this woman that I only called him when I wanted money. So today I am numb, confused and a bit dumbfounded to find that the man I considered my best guy friend is really no friend at all. I promised his wife I would never communicate with him again even though we were just friends and I will hold to my promise. I cried this afternoon, but not for myself. Yes I will miss the man I thought he was but he wasn't that man at all. No I cried for his wife. I felt the pain she must have been feeling at that moment as we talked and as she realized her husband was out playing on her. I still feel pain for that woman. It's hard not to take some of her pain on my shoulder's as I am one that was involved in the hurt and the lies her husband had dealt to her. A friend of mine asked me why I called her. Well the number I got I thought was for the woman giving me the info and I thought it would be easier to talk that type back and forth but when I got the voice mail of this woman bearing the same last name of my friend I asked her to call me back. I wanted to be sure that he was truly married and that this woman wasn't just a cousin or sister. She called me back and I found out that he is married. It's moments like these that makes this optimistic girl start to give up hope on the human race.

ILB, The story for another time continues to grow. But I will have to write my adventures since then. It's been a path of growth that I have really enjoyed through the good and bad. Thanks for the kind words of encouragement.

Yeah I kind of got sad when they stopped allowing people to do that. I enjoyed looking at their wares and finding a gem to call my own. Some of those folks paid for their time at the ROA

Thanks you have a nice V day too.