TED Ferrell

Buck yeah knee is fine never gave me any problem before or since. What Buck is talking about is we were doing a video production at the Rock in 83 and I was on stage doing my thing. And for those of you who have never seen me perform I move around a lot. I get down on my knee's and shake rattle and roll. So here I am doing an up tempo tune and I moved too fast too quickly and my knee gave away and I fall flat on my back in pure agony. It was Craig not VP who comes running up on stage and starts to minister to me for a heart attack. While I am withering there in pain I yelled at Craig it is not my f****** heart you a****** it's my knee. Craig goes Oh! and puts his hands on my knee the good one not the one I had just tore up. So much for revelation huh! With the help of a couple of guys I hobble back stage and I asked can you wrap this knee with something cause I had one more song to do for video. The only thing that could be found was gray duct tape so they wrapped my leg till I looked like a vent pipe. VP asks me can you go back on stage. I replied yes I am gonna do it. So I go back on but of course this time I am pretty laid back and stand almost still. It took me about six weeks to get that knee healed up. Don't know if any of you have ever ripped your knee apart but it can be downright painful more so than a broken bone I am told. Buck yeah! Mike Smith and I stay in touch. He was down here in the lower forty-eight a year or so ago when his son Nathan got married down in Canton Oh. And while Mike was here we spent some good quality time together. Take care Buck, hope the rib was tasty. Your Friend And Brother Ted [This message was edited by TED Ferrell on December 25, 2002 at 19:52.]

Hi Buck Long time no see how you doing. Glad to see you came by Kathy's Club This is about the only place I hang out here at gs cause music is about the only thing I know much about and somtimes I'm not to sure of that either ha! ha! Found the words to Captain Of Salvation and I know Brian would be thrilled to hear the story that you posted. Brian is doing great down in Tn.still pounding the old ivories and singing good as ever or better.. Don't be a stranger come on by anytime and we will have a jam Take care Buck love you man Ted F. [This message was edited by TED Ferrell on December 25, 2002 at 16:02.]

Caption Of Salvation verse one Like a ship so far from home Drifting aimlessly alone Storm tossed by the trouble's of this world Driven by the torrents and the mutiny of sin There I alone alone a sinking man chorus one Than the captain of salvation Like a lighthouse in the night Guided me into the harbor of God's love He gave me shelter from the tempest He's the prince of peaceful sea's Anchored in the harbor of God's love verse two With the cargo of deliverance And the compass of God's Word Setting sail in search for others lost at sea Some will sink but some will swim Abd we'll rescue them for Him In the saftey of The Rock In the harbor of God's love chorus two Than the captain of salvation Like a lighthouse in the night Guided them into the harbor of God's love He gave them shelter from the tempest He's the prince of peaceful sea'a Anchored in the harbor of God/s love chorus three Yes the captain of salvation Like a lighthouse in the night He'll guide you into the harbor of God's love He'll give you shelter from the tempest He's the prince of peaceful sea's Fuul sail upon the ocean of God's love Full sail opon the ocean of God's love Words and Music by Brian Bliss © 1982

Daddy's Arms verse one Sometimes my days can be so long Everything I do seems to turn out wrong Looked all around ended up staring at the ground I just can't find no help Can't find no answer's in my self Well it seem's that me Was all I was thinkig about Thought's they turned To worries fears and doubt That old devil try's to break my heart Tell's me I'm no good But instead of giving up Like he thought I would chorus I climbed back into Daddy's arm's Started all over again It's the only way this broken heart could mend Well He loves my problems right out of me Makes my blind eye's able to see And I finaly rembembered God has never forgotten me vers two Well I was doing all the right things For all the wrong reasons I only pleased myself But now it's God I'm pleasin' I know that He could see through me But yet He saw me through I'm gonna' live for Him in everything I do repeat chorus Words and Music by Dave Lutz © 1982 [This message was edited by TED Ferrell on December 25, 2002 at 13:59.]

There you go my friend you have all the words now to Brians great song Son's Of God As I set here typing a few of the songs from old Way Prod days sometimes there will be tear or two drop on my keyboard.All of Joyful Noise and many many others from Way Prod are family to me and I love each one dearly and am so very very proud of them all This Christmas night I thank God I got to be a part of their life and a part of yours. Merry Christmas to All And To All A Goodnight Ted F. [This message was edited by TED Ferrell on December 24, 2002 at 22:58.]

Sons Of God chorus We are sons od God with power Raise your head and say it loud The righteousness of God is ours Of our sonship we are proud We're brought back from the devils power Set apart by Crist And we're rconciling men to God Seving them the bread of life verse one We are sons of God shining as a light Casting out the darkness Holding forth the Word of life Fearless as we stand upon the promiises of God Proclaming the wondeful works of him Evey morning noon and night verse two Standing before our father's throne Bodily without shame Making our requests made known To God in His Son's name Bold because we know we're righteous Wer're not afaraid of man Knowing that in the book of life God has put our names verse three Never doubting our ability We stand and know we're free Knowing we're more than conquerors We claim each victory We're God's perfect masterpiece We're complete in Christ Believing working mircales Casting mountains to the sea Words And Music by Brian Bliss © 1975

Hope you did not start typing lyrics but I had typed and finished before I saw your post Sorry if I messed you up Ted

My Lifes Dream I was lost my world was filled with tears Amd troubles times were tough Evil days living life was one big bother One big bluff Running hard but no escape from darkness inside I was enslaved But God stepped in and by his mercy love And kindness I was saved chorus And now I love the life I'm living Cause I know how God my Father set me free Yes I love the life I'm living And I know that I know that christ in me verse two Somtimes I forget that I've been given My lifes dream Peaceful days with Jesus Chris alive inside me life's Supreme Then I stop put off the world and thank The Father For His Son Times are great my sorrow's gone My life's been made right I have won repeat chorus tag ending Yes I knpw that I know I know that I know Yes I know that I know iknow that Christ in me Words and Music Cliff Adelman © 1975

Golfie happy to post lyrics for ya! Love you bro And to all of you here at gs my wish and prayer for you is that you have a VERY VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR Love To All Your Brother Ted

Give Christ A Try chorus Open Your Heart And Just Give Christ A Try He's In Love With You He Arose To Set You On High You'll Never Know Til You Know That You've Tried His Tender Love Always Thinking Of God's Love Inside verse one Time Does'nt Heal The Heart That's Torn Apart Your Mind Can Make The Change God's Word Will Mend The Heart That's Torn Apart Things Will Rearange repeat chorus verse two Things Of This World Wont Last They Change So Fast There's Darkness In The Land God's Word Will Always Last It's Spreading Fast Come On And Take A Stand verse three True Love Is What You'll Find And Peace Of Mind When You Look To God's Son Leave All Your Cares Behind Make Up Your Mind Forget The Things You've Done repeat chorus Words and Music by Cliff Adelman © 1975

Man when I look back at how and what we all went through while going here and there sleeping in the vans and sometimes getting to a show without having time to take a shower before going on Lysol spray cans were our only saving grace.ha1 ha! Talking about traveling with little sleep.I recall a time Ken Mc.and I were down at the recording studio in Cinncy mixing America Awakes album and both of us had been at the console all night Ken had to be back for an 8;Am corp meeting ao we left the studio around 5;30 Am and I told Ken to get in the back seat and get a few winks and I would drive back to NK.I headed for INT,75 and recall merging in with the traffic and that was all I recall.Ken said he woke about a couple hours later and there I was sound asleep at the wheel and the car was going straight as an arrow on the freeway he futher stated that he watched this happening for some time but was concerned to wake me up since it might cause me to vear off the highway.I recall waking up? and seeing an exit sign that read St. Marys Wapak. cut off next exit which meant I had missed the Nk cut off a few miles back.When Ken and I talk together now and than that trip from Cinncy always comes up.And how it was by the grace of God we made it home safe and sound that morning.Ken made it in ime for his corp meeting,too. Yeah! socks the stories we could tell that many would not believe Sure love ya! brother. Ted F. [This message was edited by TED Ferrell on December 21, 2002 at 12:08.]

Dear one never gave it a thought you were being critical of anyone.Yes Joyful was different and after my involment it changed a few more times. When Skip M .Danny H.and David G.came on the scene another deminsion was added that made Joyful even more different and all for the better Think Kathy is real happy with the way we keep adding more of our thoughts on her thread.Say maybe this would be a good time to hit her up for a raise in pay ha! ha! What do you think Prochaine?

Socks you my friend have got your act together and I sure do enjoy reading what you have to add.And you always bring to the table some wise and thoughtful insight , Cookin' Mamma was one fine good rockin' band and what a sound you all had Wish I had a few cuts of some of the beats you were laying down John yes my earlier vison for Way Prod.was to leave the performers in their areas and that we would do all we could to help in anyway possible Most certainly never to control or wrongly advise how they should write songs or perform.When you do that you strip away an artists creartive talents and at best they wind up as clones of those who try to put rules and regulations upon their heads. I was believing that as time would permit I would travel to any area and offer whatever knowledge I might have,not that I'm.so great but rather to give words of encougagement and support from Way Prod.I believe had I been able to follow through on that way of thinking we would have seen some inspiring results.But that road we did not go down perhaps it was due to my own weakness that I did not insist that's s the way it should be done Prochaine Joyful Noise worked in spite of those who tried to get their hands in the pie .For all of us it was always a learning ecperience and each one of us tried to draw the best out of each other.VP mostly kept his hands off and let ud run the show but there were times he would put his two cents worth in on certain things or ideas. JN had very talented hard working people involved and out of those years some wonderful songs and music sprang foth.How many of you have heard socks do some of his great tunes like Brand New Way or The Grave And The Glory Yes Jn had some very fine musicians and singers but JN had another side that perhaps we have not looked at and that is Joyful Noise was an entertaining group and were always coming up with different ideas on how to reach and touch their audience There is fine line between groups who just play music and those who put on"a show" I did not have to tell them do this or do that hey!they came up with most of what we put on stage.I was just along for the ride watching them grow by leaps and bounds and for the most part I kept my nose out of it but I did help put the program together and they did let me emcee and sing a couple of tunes now and than ha! ha! From 1974 through 1976 we called the shots and VP had very little imput on what we sang wrote or danced After 1976 by my own choosing I left Way Prod.as director and turned the reigns over to those I considered to be very capable of taking over .Any future involment with Way Prod. that I had for a few more years was working on special projects and when those were finished it was time for me to hit the road.What came down the pike after that i don;t know much about. I had a wonderful time got to work with some great people and build friendships that are still dear to me till this day. Thanks for letting me share Love To All Ted F. [This message was edited by TED Ferrell on December 21, 2002 at 3:54.]

In mid December of 1971 The decision was made that Pressed Down and Selah were ready to go into the studio and record.That decision was smade on a cold December night to put the wheels in motion because both groups were strainging at the bit to get in the studio I was somwewaht hesitant because I knew the money it would take be around ten thousand dollars and at present Way Prod.did not have even near enough to cover the cost.Plus because of the size of The Way at that time I knew it would be a long time before we could break even So I came to the conclusion Way Prod. would be better seved as a twi dept. and so that phase of Way Prod. was over In Jan. and Feb. of 1972 both Pressed Down and Selah recorded and for 1972 both of those albums were darn good Better than most christian music that was on the market.Pressed down went back to NY.after recording was finished. Selah stayed around for a few more months to do some road programs with me for The Way. As 1972 came to a close both groups were back in their home areas. I returned to the night club scene In 1973 and worked the rest of the year on the road.In Dec.of 73 while doing a gig in Louisville Ky. VP called me and said I have a bunch of musicians here in the Fourth Corp and I don't know what to do with them maybe you will know .There was dead silence on the phone for a few seconds till I said gee! I don't know about that V.P.my answer right now is no. He kept talking and asked well at least will you drive up here and talk to me.I had two days off on that booking so I drove up to NK and listened to what he had to say.I'm an easy mark so on Jan 13 1974 I walked out on the stage of a little theater in Minster Ohio and said God Bless You and Welcome To Joyful Noise and the rest is history.I loved working with all of those very talented men and women hey socks that includes you and Janet and I would not have missed the good times music and songs we shared for all the tea in china. I have told you in part how it all began and now perhaps socks will fill in some of the rest of Way Prod. That's All Folks On This Topic Love To All Ted F. [This message was edited by TED Ferrell on December 18, 2002 at 3:50.]

Right away I was aked to select two groups to invite to NK and my pick was Pressed Down and Selah Around the first of Sept.in 1971 VP Ermal and H.E. asked me let's go for a drive into New Knoxville We pull up in front of this two story building that was vacant and went inside The bullding had been used as a egg storage warehouse and you sure could smell the chickens. The three men asked me Ted will this place do for Way Prod.I checked it over from top to bottom and said with some clean up it will do fine,The next day it was purchased and I named it The Outreach House because of a music publishing company I had in my mind called Outreach Music. We four men talked about how I would like to set up Way Prod. I said think it would be best for Way Prod to be independent of The Way and that was oK by all. Harry W.asks me how much money do you think you will need for start up cash.I replied a thousand will do.We go over to the bank and set up an account for Way Prod. even got a big bizz. check book.So now we have a place to rehearse and live and food for the two groups would be supplied at HQ dinning room. Right away I start thinking about paying back that thousand I got from Harry W. I knew that Rock Of Ages 71 had all been recorded by a prof studio from Dayton and I had the reel to reel tapes.So I invited Mike Smith to go to Dayton studio and help edit those tapes so we could make a highlights album of ROA 71 which we did. I orderd one thousand records to be pressed from master tape and while they were being pressed went to Em Allen and told her abour the albums and asked how many would she like at three dollars per album she ordered five hundred and Way Prod had just made a thousand dollar profit during the next few weeks I sold another five hundred for a fifteen hundred dollar profit Now we had some money in the bank and I had payed half off on the loan from H.E. Pressed Down And Selah are there by now and we have cleaned up our building till it was spic and span and both groups are rehearsing and composing tunes to beat the band and The Outreach House was a rocking A couple or so months later things changed and the vision I had for Way Prod died one cold December night as Way Prod. became a dept.of The Way .This was not VP's actual doing but rather pressure was being brought to bare from the leadership of the east and west coast and from both music groups Will wind this topic up on next post and move back to the music of the seventies I hope you can understand this post and that I was able to clearly explain how most of it came down Love To All Ted F. [This message was edited by TED Ferrell on December 18, 2002 at 2:06.]

Some of you have asked me to tell you how it all happened so without going into many details I will do my best to share my heart and involment with Way Prod. Before we start feel that I should say once again about my friendship with VP.I did not worship nor do I worship the man.He was my friend who taught me some bible and we shared a song or two together The reason I am saying this is because his name will come up several times before I finish this story In 1968 Mardelle (my wife at that time) got involved with The Way and very quickly started writting and performing music for and with The Way. Two working night club entertainers that used the same style and format as we did while working in the clubs. .VP loved how we performed and for the next three years we would work in the lounges to earn some bucks so we could travel and work with The Way and VP .At no time did we ever receive any finical gain nor did we desire to do so in a way guess you could say it was our way of giving After the closing day Of Rock Of Ages 1971 (which by the way was coined by my First Corp buddy Mike Smith we stiil are good friends till this day).VP calls a meeting for all musicians and singers to be held at the New Knoxville High School About thirty or so showed up including Preesed Down,Selah and others.The reason VP called us all together was to see if perhaps somehow we could do something productive wise with these talented people.It was decided that there would need to be a director for the music ministry as it was called then.So each man or woman who thought they could do the job took the floor and spoke.There were many grand and lengthy wonderful ideas tossed to and fro as I held my peace. Vp calls on me to share and I did so in one simple sentence "What we need to do is put our hand before the plow and go to work" VP.Ermal and H,E.go to a room to choose who wil be the director.In a short while they came back and announced that I would be the one.I really did not want the job as I knew to some degree what I was letting myself in for. This is kinda heavy for me so think I need a break but will continue later on tell you about how I believed Way Prod.as i called it should be set up. More on that in next post. Love Ya! Ted F. [This message was edited by TED Ferrell on December 17, 2002 at 19:18.]

The seventies decade had a bunch of great songs and some brand new artists that we heard for the first time. Most of what I will cover about those years will be the top hits of the day and I will leave it up to the rest of you to add your favorites from the seventies. 1971.Dawn told us to Knock Three Times as Janis Joplin was out cruseing with Bobby McGee. Three Dog Night sang Joy To The World and The Rolling Stones asked for more Brown Sugar. I bought an album that year of Carole Kings and loved her songs including It's Too Late and James Taylor sang one of her songs that hit the charts You've Got A Friend .Rod Stewart's Maggie May was an item in 71 or was it Just Ny Imagination that the Temptations warned me about. 1871 Theme from Shaft by Issac Hayes got our attenion and Sly and The Family Affair had a Family Affair Cher in the meantime was out running around with Gypsy's Trmaps And Theives and Melanie found her Brand New Key and I heard and bought Elton Joh's first album Madman Across The Water still have and love that album So that takes care of 71 got any additions folks? Since we are in the year of 1971 Next post I may tell you about the 1971 begining's and the early years of Way Prod Have not decided If I should go there or not Love Ya! Ted F. [This message was edited by TED Ferrell on December 17, 2002 at 10:26.]

Hi everybody ready to post a couple Of things today. Kathy just ain't gonna' let me retire from her thread ha! ha! Truth of the matter is I do enjoy my time spent with all of you here on gs. During the sevsnties a lot od us got involved with twi in what I call the growing years.It was the young from all walks of life who came by the hundreds and then by the thousands that put twi "on the map" Had that not happened twi may have stayed a little country church in the middle of nowhere and have only at best a few adult's and their children as follower's When we came into the fold ( so to spesk) we brought with us the seventies music culture that would have a major impact on twi future produced miusic or as Loggins and Messina put it in their 1972 hit Your Mamma Don't Dance And Your Daddy Don't Rock And Roll In my next post we will cover the first few years of the seventies and recall some oldies but goodies that have withstood the test of time.As the Beat Goes On. Love To All Ted F. [This message was edited by TED Ferrell on December 17, 2002 at 8:58.]

Since I bailed out of twi in 1984 it's hard for me to understand why and how in the H anyone would think they have the right to try and control anothers life in any area. Looking back I knew it was time for me to go because my work there was finished and also I had a gut level feeling the times they are a changin'and that I would not put up with any horse s*** My heart goes out to you Kathy and your son that you were put upon by such baloney and wrong teaching Well my friend it ain't over till it's over and should I be able to help you or your son in anyway concerning music I am here for ya! and Kath who knows you might even be the next Patsy Cline Hey!and just maybe we will write the next big hit but no rap if you please ha! ha! While thinking about this stuff I don/t know if any of you are aware but back in 1971 Way Prod was set up by me to stand on it's own and not be a dept of twi a long story I may tell you sometime. Love To All Ted F. [This message was edited by TED Ferrell on December 14, 2002 at 17:59.]

Just wanted to tell all of you that have posted here how much I enjoy all you have to say. Regardless of what we believe or don't believe music has a way of reacing out to the heart and soul of a man woman or child and knows no boundries. Kathy as I look at the title of this thread it makes me smile because so far it is plain to see twi did not have much of an impact on what we should or should not listen to.ha! ha! Linda when will the mystey be revealed ? That's all for now but you all keep on a truckin' Love Ya! Ted F.

Some of you have mentioned a few of the seventies songs so I'd better jump in here.Think I will shorten my posts a little and take it one or two years at at a time. 1970 as mentioned Bj Tomas had the number one hit of that year..Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head that contained a good postive lyric Simon and Garfunkeel scored with a biggie that I love yet today ..Bridge Over Troubled Water Let It Be by the Beatles and do any of you recall hearing that was a song about pot when they sang the line Mother Mary Comes To Me speaking Words Of Wisdom Let It Be I never bought into that did any of you? Another wondeful Beatles song from that year The Long And Binding Road..George Harrison did My Sweet Lord as the Beatles began to unravel and fall apart Jackson Five gave us ABC. The Love You Save and I Want You Back Diana Ross goes solo with Ain't No Mountain High Enough as Neil Diamond sang about his Cracklin'Rosie Smokey Robinson cried Tears Of A Clown Bubble gum music was in with a big hit of Breads Make It With You This may be another Barry Manilow type chat when I bring up this next name and that being The Carpenters as for me I loved their smooth sound and wonderful songs Karen Carpenter had the swweetest voice this side of heaven and when I heard Close To You it made my heart melt.Their appeal was to the adults as most of the rockin younger set brushed their music aside. I stiil have most of thier albums and listen to them from time to time So folks what is your take on The Carpenters because as we stroll through the seventies their songs will appear again and again Thats all for now you all please add your comments and thoughts about the seventies as The Beat Goes On Ted F. [This message was edited by TED Ferrell on December 13, 2002 at 21:40.]

My ex girl friend bought that hat and that's why we broke up.Boy! you sure do know how to bring back memories dont'cha boo! hoo! Now you got me crying thinking about that Manilow creation and how it destroyed a perferctly good relationship.so sad! so sad!

Where do you get this stuff sometimes I worry about you girl hee!! heE!! but that is a classic I'm LMAO Right Now

Say Ron that's good things to know.I heard about that place and recall seeing some write ups on it sorta like The Hugry I and Purple Onion of San Farancisco where such notebales as Steve Martin got his start,Steve was a five string banjo player and folk singer and would add his witt between his songs that turned out to be his forte in life and I still like his movie The Jerk stil laugh and quote some of those lines he used Kathy I have this great collection of Manilow records that I would be more than happy to donate to use in your torture chamber ha! ha You all have mentioned a few of the seventies hits and I think we are just about to get on a roll with that decade. Ted F.

Guess we had better get to rolling down the highway to the decade of the seventies and though It's been almost thirty three years ago that we welcomed in the year 1970,sometimes it seems like only yesterday.Before we travel on I would like to relate an incident that happened in 1971 you all might get a kick from hearing 1971 I was playing at The Holiday Inn Richmond In The night before had been our closing night so I was in the lounge taking out the equipment when I noticed a couple that were walking around sorta casing the place out.The fellow walks over to me and asks so you must be part of the band that just finished here.I said yes and he tells me his name and introduces the lady that is with him,told me they were both from NYC.We talked for a bit than he asked me what kind of material do they go for in this room ? I replied oh! some top forty,little country,some old standards and lots of rock and roll The guy gets this worried look on his face and says we only do orignals and some broadway show tunes and that's all we do I assured him all would be OK and thought the people would like them , I wished both good luck and so long as I headed for my car to go east on Interstae 70 towards Columbus Oh.our next gig. Few days later some friends from Richmond In.come to see me and informs me that the two that followed you in got fired the second night said the people did not care for them so the ownwer pays off the contract and sends'em trucking back to NY. Three years later in 1974 I was listening to a top forty staion and for the first time heard a song called Mandy. Yep! folks it was tha singer pianist that had got his contract canceled in Ricmond In. three years earlier none other than Barry Manilow and the girl singer that was with him was Melissa Manchester By this time I was involved with twi,Way Prod and my dear friends Joyful Noise so I paid it no mind and forgot about it, Ten years or so ago I read in a mag. an interview with Manilow and he told that story about being canned.The only difference was he thought he was in Richmond Va,Poor Barry does not the diff,between Va.and In. Should any of you have contact with Satori please send this to him cause I know how he just LOVES Barry Manilow ha! ha! I can just hear him now say .After hearing this my respect for the hoosier state increased ten fold cause those folks know talent and that either You've Got It or You Ain't Got It. Here's to ya! Satori. Will be back later and we will talk about those seventies Love To All Ted F. [This message was edited by TED Ferrell on December 13, 2002 at 12:52.]