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Chemo is not always, in every case, so horrible. My mother handled it well (although it only gave her 2 more years- but wonderful years they were). The fact that she eventually succumbed to the disease had nothing to do with the failure of chemo, but everything to do with the fact that she delayed getting a lump checked out in anything CLOSE to a timely manner. My plumber and friend is doing two treatments a week and is still able to work 3 days a week. What I am saying is I think we do a disservice to people by speaking only of those instances when chemo is "horrible". It's not always, and sometimes it works. All of which has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but I had to get this off my chest. I am sorry for those of you who have witnessed horrid experiences with chemo. In my mother's case however, it gave her the time she, and we, needed to have with her, and they were cheerful, happy, enjoyable times. ~HAP

that is unfortunate, you could well be missing some good stuff. On the other hand, since you choose to ignore some views, I do hope you apply the same filter to stuff with some other pepe's names attached too. ~HAP

In Boulder and Fort Collins, there are facilities to donate cell phones. If you are near a college town, you might check around there. College towns seem to have a more develoiped and wiseer community when it comes to sustainable living lifestyle . At both these places, they do different things with them, depending on their condition and value and provider. Women's/ family shelters are one of them. some they dismantle and properly dispose of the various parts. (they also take old tennis shoes. an interesting combination- maybe its a prelude to a Get Smart type generation?) A google search using donate cellphone your town/state ought to find a place. Here is one site: http://www.easycallcellular.com/recycle-cellphones.shtml I think you are in Ohio as I recall, so you might try these: Here is a site called ActionOhio, which has specific info and directions on donating cellphones to charities ( I REALLY LIKE this site, great info there): http://www.actionohio.org/cellphone_collection.htm Here is Ohio's Dept. of Natural Resourses Recycling page (although it is primarily about recycling, you might find more there about donating): http://www.ohiodnr.com/recycling/awareness/facts/ there are a number of other places that show up on a google search, depending on your actual location. ~HAP

Belle- what high school? The year was later than me, but I remember East High fondly. ~HAP

Most my family has seen it here in Denver, and were awed. MsHAPgenerally shies away from p[otentially icky shows like that, but for this, she was into it and was very happy she went. Not gory at all inher opinion. the bodies are plasticizedand artfully and educationally displayed. Well worth the admission! ~HAP

walks in the ways? does he have a motorcoach to bring the gals to? is he a drunk? heeeeeeeeee how sadly those walk that cannot grow up. I vaguely recall a thread about him a long ways back. ~HAP

ahhh its not the link I put above. That one is in Amarillo. Yours doesn't seem to have any web presence. Who started it? What is a "true son" of the wacky VPW? I ever heard that description before. ~HAP

Welcome Grand- is this the church you refer to?: http://www.riverroadfellowshipchurch.org/ founded by Faye Roberts ~HAP

LOL, WELL said! My great grandfather's marriage certif gives his wife's birthday 2 years different than her gravestone. The gravestone would indicate she was 16 when she married, the marriage cert made her 18. I am guessing that the gravestone is more likely correct rather than admitting to marrying at 16 at the time of the wedding (ahem). I put one date in my database, but have the other in "notes" also, with both sources annotated. Keep EVERY tiny scrap of data you obtain, sometimes later on you can get further corroborating evidence, any of which may or may not be accurate. HOW FUN! ~HAP

Now for some fun stuff- and I am so glad you got your father to share what he knows, and you have written or recorded what you can. Oh if I had paid attention to Gramps and his stories, what an easier time I would have had. As I said, I work mainly my father's line, but I do keep in contact with researchers on my mother's side, which is well documented back to the 1300s. The first immigrant to the US in her line came in 1624, and he and his descendant started many a puritan church in the north east (CT/MA etc.) A few years back, Terri and I took a trip to Niagara Falls, and I called a researcher I had met online 3 years earlier, who I knew lived about an hour away from there. We share a common ancestor from the early 1700s. I invited him to meet us for dinner at the Minolta Tower. We had a wonderful dinner together, and great conversation, then towards the end, he reaches under the table and pulls out a notebook he brought. In it he had drawn detailed maps to and of two cemetaries. John tells me, "I looked ten years for this grave, I am saving you the trouble. It is your 5th great grandfather's, and his family. However, I cannot place this one name that is buried with him." I looked at the name, and said "Oh, I know her, she is....(I gave the relationship)" a big sigh came across his face, and he smiled, "I am so glad we met tonight, that name was driving me nuts." Of course, I was the big beneficiary of the location of my 5th great grandfather's gravesite, which we drove to the next day south of Utica. I never would have found that beautiful site, a cemetary from the early 1800s, with about 150 graves, located next to the remains of the church he founded. what a thrill. The other cemetary map showed me exactly where to find my 6th and 7th great grandparents graves in Durham CT. and my 7th's house (still standing) located down a road which still bears his surname. what a country! What started me in genealogy was the realization that my father had always wanted to know exactly where in Germany his grandfather had come from. My great grandfather was a shoemaker (welcome to the shoe biz laleo) who had immigrated to Lawrence MA in 1868. That is all we knew. Through the miracle of the internet, I eventually found a man in German who replied to a posting on a genealogy forum I had placed about a year earlier. Wolfgang's great grandmother shared my surname. Through numerous ims and emails, and a few telephone calls, (he trying english, me trying german- settling for a little of both) over the years, we continued to work. Finally I found the town my ancestor came from, (with Wolfgang's father's inestimable help translating old German handwritten script). It was 5 km from where his great-grandmother was born. His cousin still lives about 10km away. I contacted his cousin via email, (using altavista translator since he reads german and russina, but no english- its in East Germany). Tomas gratiously asked if I would like him to go to the village where my great grandfather was born, and take pictures of the old church where he was baptized, and the surrounding area. I was thrilled and offered to pay, but my offer was refused, with him saying, "no, Before the wall came down, Wolfgang's family sent us packages of food to help us live, I can do this to help repay my debt" Tomas took the pictures and sent them to me. The next month I met my mom and dad in MN for a fishing trip. I gave the pictures to my dad, who got a wee bit teary-eyed to see them. He was so thrilled at long last to see what the place looked like. We had lived in Germany (1957-60), but could not travel to East Germany at the time since it was in the Russian Zone., and Dad was military. Dad died 3 months later, and I am so glad I could do that for him. Terri and I hope to travel to Germany this fall if it works out, and all my German "relatives" are begging me to stay at their houses, eat their food, and be driven by them wherever I want to go. What a way to see the country!. So far, we have 7 separate trees developed, back to 1704, of my surname, none of which we can conclusively tie together. All seven originate within 15 km of the same place in Germany, and all can be traced to pre-1800. Some day, some day, we pray to find that illusive butterfly of a link that will make Wolfgang, Tomas, myself, and the others, cousins officially. We have documented every person we have found with my surname, anywhere in the world we have found them, and can trace all of them back to the same 15km in Germany. We absolutely must be connected, but we refuse to claim it until we can prove it. Oh how fun it is, and the stuff we find. so close, but never finished. Enjoy it, ~HAPe4me

wow Laleo- you are making headway fast. I am not sure how much i cna add to the wealth of info others have given you. for that matter, I have kinda lost track of what you are now looking for. Perhaps you could update us on your current quest? From: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/genealogy Etymology From Old (and modern) French généalogie, from late Latin genealogia, from Greek γενεαλογία, from γενεαλόγος 'genealogist', from γενεά 'generation, descent' + λόγος 'student'. Noun: genealogy (Note spelling: not geneology) The descent of a person, family, or group from an ancestor or ancestors; lineage or pedigree. A record or table of such descent; a family tree. The study, and formal recording of such descents. One of my favorite resource sites is http://www.cyndislist.com/ She has put together an incredible list of 1000s of links to follow through. cyndi has been around for a long time, and the research material she links to are awesome. Most of my work has been on my father's side, since nobody had ever worked it, and I spend most my efforts looking though microfilm of German court and church records. Little of my time is spent on searching US records, but once you get across the pond, I might be more help, especially if you find your way to German ancestry. In years past, I have used the extensive resources of the LDS Salt Lake City Library. You can search their catalog from home at http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FH...ameset_fhlc.asp If you find resources that are interesting or hopeful to you you can locate your nearest Family History Center and order microfilms, fiche, books etc to be sent there from SLC. These places are also staffed by folks quite happy to help you with questions. Some of these volunteers are great, some are just giving their best effort, but all that I have met have been wonderful to talk with. You do not need to be mormon to use their facilities, and I have never been "pressured" by any stretch of the imagination. I will caution you to not get real excited about trees you find through them. They are considerd often quite exaggerated. for that matter, I never take someone else's internet tree as anything more than a starting point for "real" research. The job is not done until it is documented with your own visual, preferably hands-on, verification of legal documents, and the more verifications the better. What I mostly use from the FHC is their microfilms of government documents from courthouses etc around the world. The internet has been a great boon to genealogy buffs, and at the same time, a great pain. the hobby can be so fascinating it is easy to get over excited and in one's zeal, post as "fact" what is no more than a guess. Others pick this info up from the internet and compound it. Eventually someone posts a tree, and now someone else uses that undocumented tree as their own "documentation" It can be frustrating. I actually have a tree posted, in which I purposely mispelled an ancestor's given name, so I can track who has brought my research into theirs. Sometimes we find that correct connections have been made, sometimes we find someone grabs the surname and assumes it connects. I am quite happy to share my research, but I prefer to keep some control over how and where it is posted. Anyone who does genealogy knows the thrill it is when you bingo, or make a breakthrough, and we rejoice with you when that happens. Its a great community. Some walls take years to break down then all of a sudden the dike is broken and out falls the most fascinating historical artifacts. while waiting for the breakthrough, I love to research info about what people's lives were like in the area of my search. How did they travel, why, what were the economics, what was their spiritual quest like, or as in your case, the health issues. SOOOoooooo, welcome to da brotherhood, and watch out, I shook my family tree and all that came out were a bunch of nuts. ~HAP

Hi all, Linda has given great advice. I just wanted to let you know I am not ignoring this thread, I will get back to it, but am too tired to spout about this passion tonight. For now, CONGRATULATIONS on spelling genealogy right, that is a big step, many think it is ology LOL ~HAP

Hmm, I thought it was another boy named Peter who fictionally plugged the dike with his finger, and the story was related in the book Hans Brinker/ Silver Skates, but was not Hans himself. I dunno, it's been nearly 40 years since I read the book. I do remember seeing one of the statues, back in 1960, but did not relate this to Brinker. Other than that, I remember glass bottom boats tours, and enjoying a fabulous display of miniature building replicas of famous buildings from throughout the Netherlands or Europe, not sure which. I have a pic of my sis and I there, about 9 years old at the time. How much more would you expect me to remember? LOL ~HAP

Linda- I don't expect a "large" copper nail is going to be very findable, And if you do, you will have great difficulty driving it into the center, hard part of a stump. Copper is very soft. Searching, I can't find any reason copper would be extremely adept at accomplishing your goal. If you insist on trying that route, you might try a plumbing supply house, and ask for large copper pipehooks. these are used to hang copper pipe from joists etc. they can be found about 3 inches long, with a hook on one end. Perhaps predrilling a hole will allow you to, with luck after 3 or four bent hooks, get lucky on one of them. Did I miss how long you are willing for this process to take? Allowing it to rot away will likely be a matter of many years. Good luck. I appreciate you not wishing to use toxic compounds in the soils around you. A three inch trunk at the base likely does not have much of a root system, and the roots are not likely very deep. Now that you have cut it off at the ground, putting a chain on it will be hard also. I suggest digging around it, and undermining it. Rent or find someone with an electric oscillating saw (often called a "sawzall") and hack away with it on as many of the roots as you can. They make a blade especially for cutting tree limbs and roots (it has large teeth). Alternatively, remove as much dirt as you can from around it, and hack at it with a hatchet or axe. Wear goggles. The thing is NOT that big! HAP

I believe this involved the batteries that originally were shipped with the early devices. There has been an agreement where users may receive a new battery and $25 cash, or $50 credit at AppleStore?

I humbly disagree with the premise that it doesn't matter what kind of lightbulbs we install. Before the Purchasing Dept. even accepts the requisition for a new bulb, HAP needs to add a few people to discuss whether compact flourescent bulbs would be advisable, or at least whether to install dimmer switches on all the Greasespot lighting devices in conjunction with the light bulb changing project. This of course will require a detailed discussion on our country's extraordinarily large proportionate usage of natural resources and the effect on glabal warming of various different types of lightbulbs. This would likely involve HAP, Oeno, Satori, and Wingnut. Dmiller and Sudo would be also involved, but they are already listed. I think that is 28

Found at: ( street sign manufacturer site) http://street.safeshopper.com/737/cat737.htm?318 W4-2R Right Lane Ends Ahead, Stay To The Left. Lane Ends (W4-2) symbol sign, should be used to warn of the reduction in the number of traffic lanes in the direction of travel on a multi-lane highway. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ So GreaseTech wasn't 100% afterall!

I clicked the link, got the same message as Saf V, but went ahead and clicked their link to the test and got roght in. You might try: http://www.gmacinsurance.com/SafeDriving/2006/ which is the same as Grease's witho9ut the .asp ending hmm less space between lanes? I thought that was lane narrowing.

Sharon- Since you can have that kind of celebration, I will not be sending the child support check again this month I have irrefutable proof that Montel was wrong anyway! Glad you had a good one girl. ~HAP

WhiteDove, I think Dove Ministries should get out and picket this gathering. ~HAP

is that shell'-on or shell-on' ? where is the accent?

I do genealogical research in a couple of parts of Germany. One thing I do often is scroll through various microfilms and microfiche of town registrations, court records and church records from the period 1750-1930 which I order from the LDS libraries. The town registrations are of great interest to me because they provide a wealth of information for my purposes. Contained in them are all the names in a household, their relationship to each other, the address they dwell at, their religion, job and employer, birthplace, and generally, notation of military service completed. Often, by watching for nearby housenumbers, I can locate additional relatives. When a person moved from the town, that also is recorded and where they moved to. Often times, these microfilms are not allowed to be ordered from within Germany (part of the agreement the LDS church gave for the privilege of filming the books. Even today there is often a sensitivity by Germans about anyone knowing their family history/ family trees. (It is loosening some now, but in my limited past has been an issue several times) The Church records (I have only examined Evangelical Lutheran records) contain birth, baptism and marriages. The names and towns of those present at a baptism, the names and residence of the "godparents", are in the baptism/christening records. For marriages, the name of the bride, groom and their parents and witnesses are listed, and how many siblings the couple each have. i.e. groom: johann Deutscher, the third son of Simon and Christiana Deutscher. I have no reason to think that the synagogue records have less information. Using these records, when put together, it would not have been difficult for the SS to find all the members of a jewish family, for generations back. My grandfather engineered bridges that the Allied forces used as theydrove into Germany. and Dachau and Auschwitz. There was never any doubt in HIS mind as to what dastardly uses the showers and ovens were put to. ~HAP

Not that I disagree at all with the need to air the issue of the rapes that occurred, but is there gonna be a version three of this topic that perhaps could be kept on the subject? or Modcat, could this thread title be changed to better reflect the subject as this thread has progressed? In the years to come, it may be diffficult to find these rape posts hidden in a thread titled "Conversations with Craig" QUESTION: Someone by the name of Loy C Martindale has a birthdate of 11/04/1948 Can anyone verify Craig's birthdate for me? ~HAP

Hiya Robes, good to "see" you again! You were one of the first to greet me when I came to GS, and I often think of those first chat nights. This is in reference to CO, but I would think it applies to you also. Generally, one purpose of having a tax ID number is so that you do not have to pay sales tax on the raw materials you BUY. If you don't pay the sales tax up front when you buy, you have to collect and turn it in when you sell. At least in Colorado, there is no sales tax on the "labor" part of the transaction. i.e. I buy my building materials, and pay the sales tax on them at that time. I do not then collect sales tax from my customers, and I do not then have to do the bookeeping and send the tax collections to the state. In the case of my business, (home remodeling), there is no sales tax due for my installing the materials. I may be wrong, but I do not see why there would be a sales tax on "assembling" jewelry from raw chain, stones, pins or monofilament line. At least not in this state. In my experience, you register a business name with the state, this allows you to open a business bank account. Having a business bank account allows the "wholesalers" to sell to you at "wholesale" rather than retail prices. However, these days, there is often little difference between the two. The prices you pay for raw materials is likely more determined by the quantity you purchase at one time, and WHERE you purchase it than whether you have a business license or not. Whether you use a business name and Federal ID number, or your personal name and your SS #, or a business name and your SS#, if your gross sales exceed a minimal figure, you will need to file additional (Schedule C) tax forms, pay self employment tax, etc. (of course these taxes are based on your profit from the business, after deducting all business related expenses) wow, this is getting complicated, so, to sum up my input, if you want to be all on the "up and up" you probably do some or all of these: 1) To open a business bank account, you WILL need a registered "trade" name (it can be your own name, if you want to DBA (do business as) your own name, but it needs to be registered at the state level. (Maybe at the county level in Georgia?) 2) You MAY need a business bank account (whatever the name you use) to buy "wholesale", which may or may not save you money buying material. 3) You will need a STATE sales tax license to avoid paying sales tax when you buy, you may ALSO need a LOCAL sales tax license also. If you don't pay sales tax when you buy, you WILL need to collect sales tax when you sell, and keep books to account for these tax collections. (You likely get to keep a very small portion of the collected tax as a fee for collecting it for the state and sending it to them) 4) If you will have employees (not likely at first anyway) you will need to get a Federal Employer Tax ID number. If no employees, then you can use your own SS# (advised). the bank will ask what number you are using when you open your business account, if you decide you need a business account. (I recommend having one, or at least having a separate personal bank account which you use ONLY for business purchases and bills.) 5) The reason you should have a distinct account for business is to be able to more easily do your Schedule C federal tax return each year. all you business bills, (materials, phone, cellphone, vehicle expenses or mileage, travel etc. are deductible from your sales, to figure the income tax and self employment taxes due each quarter. Sooooooo, are you having fun yet????????? Just think of the thrills of setting your own hours, (except whenyou need to meet a deadline), taking vacations whenever you want, (except when you are behind on supplying a customer's order), the freedom of being your own boss (except for all the paperwork you have to do to comply and protect against audits by the state and local and federal taxing authorities) ah well, all those privileges, so little income. You might consider not being so formal about it, you can probably shop around on ebay or elsewhere and get better prices than what you think you will get at "wholesale" local suppliers. If what you are looking for is to just make a little 'mad money", you can do this much less formally than all the hoops with all the licenses. As my karma says, this advice is worth all you paid for it. Good luck!!!!!!!! If you choose to accept this mission........ ~HAP

HAP is happy for GS's happy anniversary congrats Paw.