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hmm, the Q'rs now have me concerned for their well-being. No posts all morning, which begs the questions: 1) Rum secretly poisooned the cheesecake and then didn't show up himself 2) The gang partied wayyyy too late considering their advanced ages 3) dooj poisoned Rum's cheesecake, in order tohide an inferior product.

Good topic David, thanks for starting it. I have one son who is vegan, and one who is vegetarian. (They each also have girlfriends who share their respective diet). I am a "meateater" myself, but I have come to admire their lifestyle immensely, and I have made some adjustments to my own diet upon hearing their stories and research. Neither of them are by any stretch of the imagination at all sickly looking, nor are their many friends. As a matter of fact, their incidences of illness, flu, dental cavities, intestinal tract issues, and eyesight deterioration have been demonstrably reduced since they started their diets some 4 or 5 years ago. I of course cannot scientific prove whether all of these are diet related or in part lifestyle related, but I am happy for the result, however they have come. Both they and their friends are vibrant, cheery, physically active, and very serious about what they do. The vegetarian's girlfriend has been cooking for herself since she was 10 because her family were meateaters and she did not like meat. She is the bubbliest, most lively gal you could ever want to know. My vegan son and his girlfriend are traveling and working in Europe this year. Via the internet they have found "likeminded" people to stay with and work with in The Netherlands, Germany, France, and Italy. They are doing something called "WOOFing" World Opportunities in Organic Farming" When my vegan son and his girlfriend have come to visit, they usually cook a fantastic meal for us (I buy, they fly and cook). Every meal they have prepared has been wholesome, tasty/ flavorful and filling to the stomach. I do notice the food prep time is often longer, and the grocery bill is often higher for the meal. This has much to do with their careful and watchful care as they cook, and their careful selection, when possible, of truely organic and preferably locally produced foods. (Locally grown stuff requires less fossil fuel usage for transportation, it also provides natural remedies against local diseases and bacterias.) It also takes longer for them to shop (at least in the unfamiliar stores) when they visit. This is because they read the labels to be sure of all the ingrediants hidden in many of our foods. The meals might include peppers, pastas, peppers, tofu, beans, fresh spices, falafel, humus, of course tofu geeze, the list is endless! They generally spice things up for flavor with garlic, extra virgin olive oil, thyme, basil, curry. People I speak with do not understand tofu I think. Folks, it is generally NOT eaten plain out of the package. In fact, when they have used it, it takes on an incredible array of taste, and I have a hard time being sure that it is really tofu. They are indeed serious about it, and make every effort to carry their disapproval for using animals for human consumption and clothing into every part of their life. HOWEVER- I have never had them make me feel uncomfortable with what is in my fridge or in my closet. Actually, I see their discussions as "teaching" rather than "preaching". Not unlike they way VeganXTC and others have shared with us here. The vegans I know are sincere. The primary reason for their chosen diet seems to be concern for health, but they do also have a healthy disenchantment for the way many of our production animals are treated. I totally agree with VeganXTC that the lifestyle, consciousness and conscience of the vegans I know is one of compassion, love and appreciation for our surroundings, human, animal and natural features. Not a bad way to live at all IMNSHO ~HAP

This disgusting terminology isn't worth the artillery. (sigh) Chef, you are of a higher order than this pap, I truely believe. ~HAP

Hah, I agree more than you would think with THAT comment! it can be applied to many subjects. HAP

The recommended and most common method of applying DDT is now directly on/in the dwellings where humans live. Malaria is indeed a vicious killer and needs to be addressed. Apparently DDT is the most effective pesticide for it, and is relatively cheap, hence developing African countries have campaigned hard to get it available again. However. the problems with DDT have not been refuted from what I read elsewhere. It DOES cause harm to bird's wellbeing, and to claim that, because it is being reinstuted in developing countries, that the research in the 70s was false, is irresponsible and wrong. What has come to play here is that new application methods, coupled with a very real increase in the killer human disease malaria, has made it practicle to use in some locales. From http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba485/ The Case of DDT. When applied to policies on DDT, for example, this framework leads to the conclusion that a global ban on DDT is unjustified. DDT was an important factor in the virtual extermination of malaria in several developed countries including the United States, and it was spectacularly successful in developing countries such as India and Sri Lanka. But it was a victim of its own success. No longer fearful of malaria, industrialized nations prohibited DDT’s manufacture and use because of its adverse effects on birds of prey — and fears of its potential but unverified long-term impacts on human health. However, DDT is still the most cost-effective insecticide available for use against many mosquitoes that spread malaria, which mostly affects developing countries. DDT is relatively inexpensive and much more effective than the next best alternative insecticide. Ethically, since the risk of death to humans trumps the health threats posed to non-human animals, including raptors, continued use of DDT in the developing world is justified. This is especially true if DDT is used in a way that limits the exposure of wildlife. Today, DDT is applied only to walls and indoor furnishings, rather than being sprayed on wetlands, fields and yards as it was in the past. (bold was added by me) Uncontrollled spraying of entire fields and swamps is NOT the way it is being used now, unlike when it was found to be hazardous to raptors. Hey, majestic Bald Eagles don't go to Africa anyway, so if they want to kill their own raptors, let them. then they can deal with the snakes and dead vermin that their raptors now keep in control. By the way, I also found this: Carson had made it clear she was not advocating the banning or complete withdrawal of helpful pesticides, but was instead encouraging responsible and carefully managed use, with an awareness of the chemicals' impact on the entire ecosystem. However, some critics asserted that she was calling for the elimination of all pesticides, despite the fact that Silent Spring was positively reviewed by many outside of the academic field such as agricultural science and chemical science, and it became a runaway best seller both in the USA and overseas. So to characterize this pioneer in the quest for environmental concern as being "so very wrong", and responsible for the deaths of so many malaria victims (as your site infers), is also "wrong". Shoot, the woman died 40 years ago, where has all the new science taken us? ~HAP (who longs for the easier and more compassionate, loving times of the 60s)

Is THAT what this Dog guy claims?????? that God told him to do it? yikes. HAP

I think one Geo is more than enough, why would people cache him? Do you have to clone him first? uh uh oh oh neeeever mind! HAP

Ha rhino- I just KNEW there was an answer to this! But your explanation falls down when one looks at the price in Wyoming. I don't think there IS anyone who voted democrat there, and if your hypothesis is true, ya better fill in Wyoman, cause there aren't many who endorse the repubican plan more fully than he! LOL Dove- Maybe we all need to build our respective communities' acceptance of alternative transportation, bikes, scooters etc and develop more efficient and convenient mass transportation systems throughout the land. ~HAP

I know that taxes in each state on gasoline and deisel vary quite alot, and that may 'splain different prices, but I do not understand how one state drops 75 cents a gallona and our state (Colorado/ Wyoming) only drops 20 cents. We are still holding at $2.80 to 2.85 for regular and of course my truck recommends mid grade so I use it normally, for another 10 cents a gal. Can anyone explain why we all don't drop a similiar amount per gallon? ~HAP

I've enjoyed pondering on Escher drawings since the 60s. If you have interest in prints -(and the titles of them- Vegan)- here is one of the sites I look at from time to time: http://www.worldofescher.com/ ~HAP

soon enough, you will be dealing with your feelings of pride when they get their first job after college. enjoy this week, it all goes by quickly. ~HAP

I admit I am disappointed that the evidence cleared Karr. It was worth the try anyway. I in no way can find fault with the DA for going after him to make sure, and I applaud her for stickihng er job on the line to give it a go. Unfortunateely, it may cost her the job, even though she is very qualified, and was highly thought of by her peers. For several months, the guy had been warming up via emails for his outright confession of the crime he didn't do. Even going so far as getting messages to Patsy Ramsey before her death, implicating his guilt. For this reason, I disagree with JLingo on the confession being a way to get out of Thailand. the guy is sick, no question, but not a murderer. (yet, anyway. It remains to be seen if his condession eventually becomes a self fulfilling prophecy) At least now he is in the databases, and if and when he is freed, he will be watched. That is a very good thing that arose from Boulder's pursuit of him. Since I live nearby, I have followed this case from its Christmas eve beginning so many years ago. While nobody can applaud the Boulder police, it seems they had many obstacles to overcome from the git go. The initial investigation was not done well, and was shoddy in the beginning stages at the house that night. They did finally get it together, and there is much that has been witheld from the public. HOWEVER, with our grandstanding governor sticking his nose in it and virtually demanding that they find a way to charge Patsy, they almost were forced to put aside other efforts. The DA at the time ridiculed the police, for not finding a way to charge Mrs. Ramsey. SHE DID NOT DO IT. I was and am, very convinced of that. I saw her tears, I heard her voice, I know people who know her. I hope they finally find the person who DID, since at this time he ( I guess remotely could be a she) is still out there somewhere, perhaps in your village. As we all know now, there was never enough to charge Patsy Ramsey, not evidence, motive, opportunity or anything else. There was even less reason to pursue Dad or brother. To answer medicwife, both were outright cleared early in the investigation, due to DNA and OTHER evidence. I disagree that the case was or is now seriously "botched". NONE of the mistakes made by the police department then or now likely prevented, or will prevent an arrest, but they did give false hope to millions who are infatuated with this case. The plain facts are, the perp's DNA is not yet in the national databases. Nobody has been found that meets the criteria for charging murder. What exactly do you feel was botched? Every lead has been followed, and if new ones arise, they too will be followed. I They will find him sometime., or they will not. One thing that disturbs me however is that while this cute little white girl's death was an absolute travesty, why is it that the death of young non-white non-rich children barely can find the way to a single front page? Yet Jon Benet gets worldwide attention 10 years later? We follow the money way too much IMHO. ~HAP

SHELLON- Knows stuff and says little. ~HAP

good idea Garth Full service? I didn't know there was still such a thing. my friends and clients who are less than ambulatory take a friend to the pumpwith them. it sux. I am with Garth about NEVER leave the pump running and walk away. Extremely unsafe. but then standing there and getting hot might have been an explosive situation too! ~HAP

exactly Excat! Like John Ramsey said, let the justice system do its thing. I am sure nobody is more anxious to see this concluded than he.

I can't be without one, but the way they are used is mostly the problem. I tend to set mine with custom ringtones for those who I need to talk with when they call. (MsHAP is a real happy dancy type of tone)That way I know the approproiate response to whomever I am with at the time, or for what I am doing at the time. WHY DO PEOPLE FEEL COMPELLED TO ANSWER THE THING EVERY TIME IT RINGS??????? I am not afraid to ignore intruding calls, and let them use my voice mail. In that regards it is a very good pager, which allows me to return a call at my own convenience. I almost NEVER interrupt a face to face conversation with someone to answer my phone. I refuse Call Waiting on both my cell and my various land lines. Whoever I am conversing with at the moment is the most important thing I am doing at this moment. My boys use text messaging to my cellphone to tell me most stuff, even if it is "call me ASAP" Mostly its just stuff like "Howdy, I am going to the mountains or whatever" I ALWAYS turn my phone to vibrate when out to dinner, in a meeting, wedding, funeral or meeting a client, etc. I rarely turn it off completely. It is part of what makes me available to my clients, family and subcontractors. It keeps me from having to wait around at the office to get a return call. This allows me to get to my jobs and do something profitable with that time. If I need to take a call, I usually go somewhere away from other conversation or doings out of respect for others and for my own privacy. Talking while driving? That depends on the driving situation. Out here in the west, we have many long, open, uncongested roads. I can get a lot of things done while going up the lonely highway, and I believe I can do it safely. Men shaving or women doing eye makeup are a different story LOL. Driving around town, I will let it go to my VM and return the call when I pull off the road or get where I am going. ~HAP

As far as why it took so long, Act2, the Boulder police seriously botched the original investigation, and IMO focused solely on her parents, letting the real perp get away. Boulder has a new DA since the original crime. She mended some fences between the DA office and police. She then reopened the case, and has solicited appropriate investigative help. She is highly thought of in her field, especially in regards to sexual assault cases. I think everyone here in the Boulder area are anxious for an explanation of the discrepancy regarding his "opportunity" to do it. (Could he have been here in colorado at the time) We will have to wait. There are at least two other issues to think about. Mr. Karr has said he drugged Jon Benet. It has never been revealed by the police that this was the case. Perhaps the police kept this confidential in order to have a backup in case there was ever a confession like yesterday's. Secondly, DNA was collected from under the girl's fingernails, which did not match any of her family, or other known contacts. If Karr's DNA matches, it should go along way to proving this case. May he rest in agony if he did it. Also, if these two items do prove to be the deciding factors in being able to finally charge him, perhaps the Boulder police didn't botch things quite as badly as we all have thought up to now. ~HAP

Here in Colorado, this comes as great relief. For those of us who never did believe the commonly held theory that Patsy had killed her daughter herself, it comes with a special satisfaction. Rest in peace Jonbenet and Patsy, and may John and his son enjoy their hard won, and expensively faught for, vindication. ~HAP

I think it interesting to note that Mr Devries must have beavers not only in PA, but also in Michigan. Both states supposedly sent identical letters to him, both with the same date and file number. Mr. Devries apparently wrote identical letters to both states. www.snopes2.com says the Michigan letter is true: http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/dammed.htm It IS fun though. ~HAP

Well, my bad. Every study I can find declares savings with tailgate down as a myth. It may be true with older blunt nose pickups it seems, but not with the newer design aerodynamics. a bubble forms in the bed and air actually passes over that bubble more smoothly. Studies by Canada, Ford and Chrysler all agree. What does help is a tonneau cover over the bed, but not removing or lowering tailgate. Mesh tailgates actually reduce gas mileage according to the studies. I won't bother citing the stufdies, you can google them just as easy. ~HAP (red-faced, but still happy. this is obviously the first mistake I have ever made, so I will fess up to it.)

what were their findings Galen?

The correct addy is www.freecycle.org NOT .COM! you likely need to register. Also try www.craigslist.org. not as much for free there, but the prices people are willing to get ridof stuff for is remarkable. We use it all the time. ~HAP

depending on his truck, he probably does. If he does much highway driving especially. It likely amounts to 1-1.5 miles a gallon. My truck has a 34 gallon tank, so that amounts to driving 30-40 miles per tank further, or said another away, it saves about 3 gallons per tank which is $9 a week. not just saving pennies. My truck has a computer, which tells the mileage I am getting. I agree with your boss, why waste anything more than we need to while still accomplishing what we wish to accomplish. In this case, getting from here to there! ~HAP

jim, you beat me to it. I have heard the same about today's car aerodynamics. use the AC at highway speeds, it doesn't cost you, and the noise from windows open is deafening. By the way, why did they EVER stop making those cars with the triangular vent windows that you could turn and blow on yourself, or open just a crack to let the smoke out? ~HAP

It was too hot to work this afternoon, so my electrician and I quit and played 9 holes. (any excuse to play golf is a good one) Hitting a 6 iron on the 170 yard par 3 hole #5 at Stoney Creek Golf Course in Westminster, CO I hit the green and rolled into the cup! I dabble at the game once or twice a week, especially since I built the club house there 7 years ago, but this is my first ace ever. What a thrill! yippeee Now if I can do it all over again Friday, maybe on a par 4???????? ~HAP