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Orientate: verb 1.) The adjusments made to a person's belt after a large dinner of Asian cuisine. 2.) Any adjustment made to physical object to make more comfortable "All of the students were able to orientate their schedules to accomodate the Cafeteria's "Thai Thursday" menu.

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I think in certain parts of the south they're pronounced "mosgeeters". As in mosGEEters. Use it in a sentence? Sure! Of Mosgeeters and Men, A Vignette Starting Tilley and Bob-a-roo "Hey Tilley, can I borrow your MosGEEters Repellent?" "Sure, Bob-a-roo - what's the matter, GAS been biting ya?" (scratching and rubbing) "Oh yeah Tilley something bad. It really BURNS everytime I got to - "> (Tilley holding up hand as if to say 'stop right there!') Hold on there Bob-a-roo! That's more information than I think I want to know! Try some of this 'GeeterPellant! (tosses can to Bob) Spray this on directly - I use it. Works everytime!' (looking at can curiously and nodding) "Well, hey, says here it's been tested on pigs and proven to be 100% safe! Well, if it's good enough for pigs it's good enough for my rosey red-" (holding up hand as if to say 'stop right there!')"That's fine right there, Bob-a-roo! Spray that on and you'll be right as rain before you know it! Works for me, that's for sure!" (fade out/fade in to two guys on golf course as Bob-a-roo gives Tilley the 'thumbs up' sign, big smile - music track comes in, "Celebrate" by Kool and the Gang) Voiceover: "Don't let GAS get you off course! When the Mosgeeters get to gnawing, get the Can the pros use! Proven safe on animals and some humans, it's where Pro's in the Know go for fast fast relief! "

In a few months they'll be "Mos-guitars"?

Very nice, dmiller! Nice - the inlay on the back - what's the story on that? Looks wood inlaid, or...? Saw "The Departed" tonight. GREAT flick. Very engaging. The closing of the movie through the first part of the credits is the tune "Sweet Dreams' by Don Gibson. I won't even hint at the ending, as if you haven't seen it, SEE it. I'm sitting half way poised, jaw dropped and suddenly the opening note of that tune hits and I look at the Wif' and go "that song, that's...that's...!" and there it was. Roy Buchanan's version of "Sweet Dreams", from his first album. Whole tune plays. YouTube has an excellent version of it, a live cut - HERE. (see the movie, dig the tunes!)

Excellent description Raf. Well put. Cute cat!

No Problem 1 John. Words can be difficult sometimes. I know what I mean but even I read my own words later and wonder what I meant. CFF - John Shroyer, right? That's about all I know about them, so I can't offer advice. John's a nice guy, was when I knew him that's a long time ago. He was great, wouldn't hurt a fly, really enjoyed the bible. Danny too. I'm missing one, I think. But they were nice people. If he isn't still someone else with experience can speak to that. Y'know - two people can live and work tegether completely happy and in harmony and believe very differently. No two people ever agree 100% and are completely "likeminded" even when they say they are and they agree word for word on something. It's not just a philosophical argument - their understanding will be different based on their own life's experience. Yet they'll feel completely in harmony. If you watch though, over time differences will come up. But - they won't matter, reallly. Because at the core level, they agree. When Paul takes about unity being spiritual, bond of perfectness, one body, all of that - it isn't because we're all likeminded in what we think - that kind of likemindedeness is a work of the brain, the mind. Unity is a spiritual bond, pefect in that it's based on something perfect, not the inadequacies of our minds. To get anywhere I think we have to start there, over and over again - it isn't something we do for awhile, get good at and then move on prepared to really get down to it. Our spiritual bond is the Main Ingredient that keeps getting added over and over, and that hopefully permeates what we do more and more. But it won't - can't very well - if we brush it aside and don't let it inform what we're doing. Which is why I can't promote or demote CFF on face value. Show me the people, show me what they say they believe, show me what they do with it. Same for me - no different. I'll be honest though - for me - there are places I have a little experience with that do some fine work, good stuff and have nothing to do with any ex-Way groups, ministries, organizations or societies (formal or otherwise). So, that's why I think it can be worthwhile to visit and check out something completely different, if only for awhile. It's really worthwhile I think.

Well there ya go! I was repeating yourself. :) There's no argument against what you're saying in what I wrote. If you see one, it's an argument that I'm not making. My comments aren't a criticism for or against CFF or anyone specifically. Only that CFF and anyone in general should be viewed in the same light IMO. Even that comment can be viewed negatively - as if I'm saying "and when I do CFF comes up short". But that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that the most useful way I know to function in the body of Christ is to allow each member to speak for themselves - their lives, actions. If I view each member as what the bible says they are I have to do that. When I say "is anyone else (there)", I don't mean oh no, no one is or that I won't allow others to be. A very good example of how I should live is the parable of the "Good Samaritan", who helped someone else without regard for who they were. Jesus taught that illustration as a way to show who and how to love - don't judge who my "neighbor" is and only help those I want to, but help anyone who needs it. I have no problem admitting I don't always do that but that's the standard I would like to keep. Of course you do! Of course there are. Every word isn't an argument here kiddo. :)

Thanks Linda Z. Excora, the law of opposites applies as always - "Life is cool. When it doesn't suck". "Life sucks. When it isn't cool". I was recently impressed by a song lyric by a young man we've heard of - John Mayer. It's been sinking in. My wife recently bought the Continuum CD, so we'd have the book. It's really good CD and this song pertickalerly, IMO perfectly sets the boundaries for what to expect in life. The lyric goes like this: John Mayer - Heart of Life I hate to see you cry Lying there in that position There's things you need to hear so turn off your tears and listen. Pain throws your heart to the ground Love turns the whole thing around No it won't all go the way it should but I know the heart of life is good. You know it's nothing new bad news never had good timing then the circle of your friends will defend the silver lining Pain throws your heart to the ground Love turns the whole thing around No it won't all go the way it should but I know the heart of life is good. Pain throws your heart to the ground Love turns the whole thing around Fear is a friend who's misunderstood but I know the heart of life is good. I know it's good. Sooner or later, we learn that not every cloud has a silver lining. Some clouds just dump their rain and move on. I found it really interesting that this guy put that thought into a song that really is trying to make sense out of what life is about. It's honest I think. You hear people described this way "Ah, yeah. Tom. He's got a great heart". "Cindy - great gal. She's got such a good heart". I was tickled to hear this song say that despite what the days bring us in life, it's intentions, it's heart, is good. Some people don't know that or believe it. For good reason. We all know - on a good day life can be so excruciating for so many humans it's not worth the time it takes to get through it. But time is all we have. If we stick around, there has to be some semblance of balance to it all. When it tips the wrong way over and over and over, what is there to hold on to? I think this song says it. It's what I believe anyway. The essence of life is good. Not great all the time, not horrible all the time. Most of the time if I step back and look - it's good. With what I have to be thankful for, I've got credits piling up to see me through the tough days. I know you do too. "good is where you find it". It's everywhere. And to reword a remark of Mayer, the key to a successful life could be realizing there's nothing wrong with us, that we're not bad and undeserving of good, because bad things happen to us. Everyone needs to be able to look at their life when it's in pieces on the ground in front of us and see what we can do with what's there. There's good stuff there, we just need to see it. It's that way for everyone, over time. And I know you know this. But - it's worth saying again and again. Once we know ourselves like you do we can make it work, we know how. You said it a long time ago here - "I'll take what's coming to me in the next life and I'll take what I can get in this one". You've got a lot of gettin'g to get!

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*shuddering* Ooooohhhhhh, that's the stuff! That's the STUFF. Y'know what they say about men with big Tanks! :biglaugh: ASM = a-fish-ianado in my book! Tom's got a big tank too, or two big tanks, or sumpin'.

dmiller - slick link, thanks! chatty, thought it was a typo - there is a "gango" although I think it's unique to Keith Urban, who's a snappy picker in his own right. (this is where you say yeeeeah, I meant a gango) It's a six string banjo, HE TALKS ABOUT IT HERE AND THERE'S EVEN A PHOTO FOR ALL YOU LADEEZ

Hi 1 John. I think you have a great point here, and I'd like to play Devil's Advocate for second - I am sure one day PL will be able to share her deliverance with you and we will all be blessed. It will come from GOD not a denomination, but perhaps thru a loving believer(s). That's a very legitimate expectation, IMO. Whether it be CFF or any group, I think there's an acid test that any church needs to pass, and that's the conduct of the pastor(s) and members. The caveat is always the same in anything - no one's perfect, and everyone will make mistakes. So that's out on the table, first thing. The conduct is important on the part of the pastor(s), as they have a range of trust and access into people's lives that goes with the service they aspire to provide in the job. How do they conduct themselves not only in public church life but in personal relationships, business, everything. Do they act one way "at church" and another in different cicumstances? Paul speaks to this in the letters to Timothy and Titus. He's pretty specific as to the qualifications for ministers, pastors, deacons, anyone in an "elder" position in a church. He deals with the qualities of character that are needed, and less with the details of what they will do, day to day. I think the view it gives is invaluable to all concerned and involved. First and foremost - look at how the people act, what they do and less on what they say or say they'd like to do. Rubber meets the road stuff, basic. Paul literally looks for "good people". The only way to know that is over time and observation and getting to know people. Those in a church will know what's going on, and if there's dirt being flung - the real question is how is it being dealt with? Some things are private but some things can't be - not when a person's working in a public capacity. Is the pastor open, honest, meek to listen and learn himself? How do the people interact with each other? CFF as a teaching organization is what it is. I see it as a matter of personal decision whether a person wants to get some of what they offer, that's their business. Again - the rubber meets the road in the local fellowships and gatherings that a person goes to. Regardless of what CFF teaches and a group particpate in, that local group is going to have to speak for itself, it's conduct and values. If they're good, they're good. Which gets to the Devil's Advocate hat - If "God" works in any situation and in fact some of the least expected, there's no reason why "He" wouldn't in CFF or anywhere else. If the people are of good heart, honest and loving, if they care and are open to others needs, good things can happen regardless of church affiliation. CFF, doesn't matter. The train of thought that because CFF is "PFAL" based it's useless may or may not be accurate, but I would contend what's most important is the intent of the people involved, and their conduct. Doctrine is going to differ from church to church but there are basic elements to Christianity that run - should run - constant throughout. They often do, too, even when I don't or can't see it. When we as people need help, we're so often treated like the leper - nobody will touch us. No time, no whine. I guess I want to open my eyes to a God who's there when I need Him, not when He has time. And He's there, but is anyone else? Nothing - no thing is more powerful than two hands held together that won't let go. Eternity infuses itself into our souls when we have that one little thing, but it can be so hard to find anyone who will get our dirt on them long enough to do that. When someone does, you never forget. Doesn't matter where they're from then. Never.

Jim, saw it on the news few days ago. The law won't get off the ground unless politicians think they can get some votes from it and rustle it on the news media. The law proposes to prohibit spanking children under 3 years old. Difficult to enforce? The only way it could be enforced at all is by observers, which means any person could report an incident. In application it's scarey. I think the criticism of the politician not being a parent is a legitmate one, in that a law like this is potentially so intrusive and subject to abuse of it's own that the perception that this is just another rmeddlesome politician bringing legal intrusion into private life in an area where there's no personal experience is reasonable. I can't help but think - great, another politician looking out for our best interests, meanwhile crack dealers are holding garage sales in her city. It's a useless gesture, that won't help children who are actual victims of abuse anymore than they are now. Toddlers that display signs of physical abuse can be reported now. We never "spanked" our children or used spoons, belts, bats, 2X4's or other implements of violence on our kids. We both did do the "swat" move more than once on their butts. But we felt it was necessary to be careful with them. But in all of the classic examples - kids running into the street, grabbing something hot, about to fall, I moved quick and decisively to protect them. All parents do that though.

Great, y'know Mr. Strange is rumored to be an a-fish-ianado himself. ;) I'm working on getting decent pictures of these little guys. They're so happy! It's a good blend, 'pears. Hope he likes it! 36 gallon seems so big, but a 55 gallon is calling from distant shores, even now and in my mind's eye I can see a wall of water...don't know when or how but like all good things, it will come in it's own time! Podcasting is still new, seems. I'm checking some jazz 'casts out myself.

I hear ya, Belle. I do like Fiona, I'll check it out Chas! Christmas brought a 36 gallon aquarium to our home! After 4 years of experimenting and learning on a 10 gallon, I'm excited to get this one up and running! I've just added 4 Gold Severums and transferred in 2 healthy Silver Dollars and a Chinese Algae Eater into the new tank! Yeee hoo! I've been checking out this tropical fish podcast acrhive HERE

Did this happen during an upgrade?

It was getting pretty regimented by the time I got "in" the Corps Excie. The regimentation part was a little bit of a surprise but it wasn't out of hand at that point, but it headed in the wrong direction. Some of it seemed lame, but a lot of it was reasonable and seemed to serve the idea of developing a person's skills that would be useful to minister in a small to mid-sized group of people, like several fellowships. But I fell into a different pattern. When Way Productions got going under Ted, it was January of our first year, we'd been in the regular "program" for only 4 months. We still participated as much as we could but we were doing a lot of things on our own. Looking back that was good and the only way it would have worked out for my wife and I. Looking back it reflected the people that were in it in many ways. In our time, experience was limited, although we didn't perceive it that way. Most of the people had only been around for 5-6-7 years tops back then. 10 years background in the Way was a long time then. By the time Emporia got going - it was too much way too soon. Way too soon, impossible to manage with any maturity or experience. Nothing's changed for me, then or since then. My Christian faith, my marriage, my desires and interests have grown but I don't feel like I was or became a different person. There's many different sides to my story and it's not really worth retelling. Mostly, I've loved my wife and raised a family and known some truly honorable and wonderful people and had the opportunity to do some things that were hopefully useful, they were valuable to me I know that. Many great people known and worked with while in the Way Corps. In turn I've been loved in ways I don't deserve and can't adequately put into words. So - I guess that's that. :)

I'm witcha Chatty! Hope, I want to check out the Clear tones...I think I've seen them up locally but not sure. I will get a set and try them. Thanks! I go with Polar Bear on the drop D - it's very usable, adds a lot of sound and retunes quickly. I'd like to get a couple acoustic guitars and have them for alternate tunings though. There's a lot that gets done. I've only worked with E and a C tuning much.

The Lost Fourth Epistle of Yokhanan to the Cethians Aaaaah. Yes!

I'll try to fire up a brain cell or two hope - maybe this will add something. 4th Way Corps was a 2 year program to start. Things were happening quickly back then, on-the-fly, compared to later. The 3 year program started as a way to accomodate the numbers of people and a way to add some depth to the training and experience. It wasn't a bad idea at that point really - a lot of the people coming in were very young, average age what - ? early 20's? Some weren't old enough to vote, or drink in some states. :) But the driver for it was the increase in numbers. VPW and Howard Allen met with the 4th corps mid-winter our first year and talked about how to figure out the next couple years as there wasn't room for everyone - they suggested - the 4th would have the option to choose an "interim" year, if we wanted to take one - a field assignment. Then come back and finish the 3rd year. That way, they'd be able to start a 5th Corps at New Knoxville that year and have room. I think - 8 people/4 couples, decided to take the option to stay and finish. That worked out well, as they could be there with the 5th when it started it's first year. The rest decided to go for the field assignment, and come back after a year to finish. The whole thing was still getting tooled at that point - The 1st Corps had come in and started. Then the 2nd Corps came in the last year of the 1st corps' residence, and they'd worked together, the 1st corp getting the 2nd off and running. (literally - more on that...) Same with the 2nd they finished their first year, then the 3rd came in their second year and got going. The 4th came in the second year of the 3rd Corps and in our first year was when it became apparent that there wasn't going to be room for everyone doing it that way. We'd known everyone from the First Corps on for the most part and had been keeping in touch with a lot of people, seeing how it was going, sponsored a couple. (we'd met a lot of folks travelling the year when the First corps started, in fact met Hope, Evan and quite a few people that year!) VPW had talked to me in California about the whole Way Productions idea, and I was interested. We were interested in going in the 3rd Corps, he suggested waiting and going in the 4th, as it looked like several people were coming in and there might be a fit. I had talked to Ted the summer before and he said it looked like that might happen. So it was a fit for me, and our plans. I was a musician, and was interested in the idea of how music fit into the outreach and expressing what I'd learned into music. I felt a committment as a Christian to try something and at that point the Way was a very exciting environment, somewhat stilted by it's location but the people were great. - On the running - the whole "Running" deal got so overblown - the 1st Corps started running "to the Stop Sign" and back, from the BRC driveway down to Shelby/Auglaize Rd and back, less than a mile, loosely scheduled. Big woopdee doo, right? By the time the 4th Corps got it we were running every morning everyday at "5:45" a.m for a mile or more, running "around the block", running our heads off. I actually came to enjoy it and ran quite a bit on my own for years. Eventually all that running on asphalt didn't do my lower legs any good though. - On the accomodations - the 4th corps applicants got a letter in the spring of '73, year we were going in - Howard let everyone know that they weren't going to have room for everyone, housing was slim, so we were asked - to buy and bring our own mobile homes. Howard gave some details with more to follow, as to how we could hook up. If that sounds bizarre - it was. But we got in touch with a couple we knew going in, Mike and Sally M and started making plans to split one. I contacted Howard as to what would be needed and by the time an answer came back they'd canned that idea and were putting in the "trailers". Through the whole Fall and Winter the new trailers were on flatbeds in the lot behind the EOB.

Linda Z, Tom is All Dude All the Time, no question about it Exude verb 1 exude, exudate, transude, ooze out, ooze release (a liquid) in drops or small quantities; "exude sweat through the pores" 2 exude make apparent by one's mood or behaviour; "She exude great confidence" This was on wordreference.com, and the typo notwithstanding (heck of a word there, can't use it too much) I was thinking of it along these lines, that Tom oozes "doing it-ness", doing stuff, being a real doer and not a not-doer. Not doing something is easy - see that thing to do? I'm not doing it. Doing stuff, TOTally like, different and all, and requires focus, concentration, committment, staying power, and all kinds of other godly and spiritually dynamic and real principles we can use in our everyday walks, today and all.

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Tom, you're already doing too much, man! but that's a great example you exude. I wish more people could be like you and take your example to heart. In fact, I'm totally relieved now because for awhile, well, I thought y'know, you were kinda just not....doin' anything. I was wrong - the Couch Committee is a TOTally worthy and AWEsome thing to be doing. TOTally COol.Just remember - refreshments and set up aren't Over and Above Doing, that's just what you owe, Basic Stuff ("b.s.") The Couch thing though - TOTally cool and awesome. You're DOING it!