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Inneresting idea, waysider. It does make sense. Open tunings and slide work allows for a lot of flexibility, regardless of how the hand is feeling. I've always liked the sound of the "bottleneck" slide. I've tried different picks over the years and have settled on xtra heavy, or very thick. There's a brand I get, forget which, that's very thick, with holes in the body. Easy to grip, and has a meatier sound overall.

That's gonna be 1963, Jim. Glad you're diggin' the crazy sounds. A wild aszed guess, it's a Wurlitzer, but could be an older Rhodes for all I know. That soft muted tone is a classic "surf's up!" sound. Although a lot of different sounds came to be incorporated under the Surf music umbrella, that cool, kinda jazzy bubbling cruising sound that was Pipeline was characteristic of the genre. There's something clearly uniquely "California" about the song Pipeline. Frankly, I couldn't see "Wipeout" without going on a serious surf music jag and I wanted to post it. That now-famous muted run down by the guitar is actually a fairly musical statement, capturing the feel of a wave curliing over very compactly. You can count the notes being hit, despite the fact the sound of it is random. It's a tad overdriven by the time the ending comes. Although the Chantays look like they've been subjected to too many experimental alien anal probes, they bring a childlike innocence to the performance that predates "ET". Can't beat that. This may be the best proof we have of an alien invasion. If in fact, the moves are as orchestrated as they appear to be, they may be signalling an early regiment of Amazing Sea Monkeys!, giving the "OK" sign and go ahead for landing. Just a guess but that would be my take. Pass the Ray Bans and put the top down.

Thanks Dot. Bump, you just reminded me of a joke, vaguely remember, it's a husband and wife, and the wife is ripping the man about all the TV he watches...."If you really loved me, you wouldn't watch those dammed sports games all the time!" and the guy's on the couch leaning forward to the TV and says "honey, did you see where the remote went to?" Well, it was funny in the original. Sometimes communication are not what it said when we thought that meant the words. Thing.

Congratulations! That's good news. Amazing! Our cat Donald disappeared only once in his eventful life. Our cul-de-sac was his turf and he maintained his territory fearlessly. Got some scratches, torn ear at one point and it was slow to heal, and after a couple trips to the vet we didn't know what else to do, it wasn't healing at all. Then one day he was gone, for two weeks. We looked everywhere, asked everyone. The neighbor kids who called him "MacDonald" looked all over for him and were sad - we thought we'd lost him. Then one day after work the third week I pulled in the driveway and there he was, by the steps, sitting up and healed, good as new. I was so excited! He was alive and okay! When I came up to him and scratched his head I looked him over and he looked at me like "don't get mushy on me now" and walked in with me and headed for his bowl, which we'd kept filled. We guessed he'd holed up somewhere and healed up but we couldn't imagine where. We were very happy to have him back!

More from the WWF - "World Wristling Federation": Glucosamine My wife bought me some of this, big bottle of it, wasn't that expensive, it has a couple other things in it. I break the pills in half and take a half every day or so, ground up with my little pill grinder thing. Tastes fairly nasty, but in a beverage or with something else, I can't taste it. It may have helped, not sure. Didn't hurt. At the point I had extreme pain it was part of the things I did to recover. Hot again today. Eggs frying on the sidewalk hot. Breakfast on the road, literally, and if you like grits, there's grit when they're cooked that way so some folks may have been clam-happy. B.B. King has spoken about when he first moved up to the "city" and was working a day job in a factory for awhile. His hands would swell up in the day and he'd play at night and they'd be killing him. Singin' the blues. I think a lot of guitar players deal with it over the years, comes and goes. One job I had for a couple years gave my hands a workout and that's when I noticed them changing. I was carrying stuff all day 10-15 pounds, and using some hand tools. Lifting 50 gallon tanks of solvent up and over and emptying them out. My hands would be tight by the end of the day and I saw the muscle between my index and thumb bulge out, like a rupture almost. For awhile I felt like Popeye or something. They're still that way, more than not.

Hope your Mother's getting better! And you too! The heat's WAY up in Nor Cal today, been a smoker on the ground, feels like. I take a multi-v myself , and the B's are in it. I don't take the recommended dosages, as they tend to clutter up the inner tracts in ways that make passage more complicated than intended, I'm sure. It might be the "binders" or sumpin, but I break them in half and use a pill grinder, little plastic thing that powders those puppies up, then drink it down in a beverage or yogurt. Take them twice a day that way and they go down easy. My hands and wrists have settled down the last week. They were a little stiff there for a bit, not hurting now much at all. When they do start to hurt a correction on the keyboard arm positioning and frequent short breaks to stretch a little will do the trick. Speaking of "free" stuff that isn't entirely free but paid for, we have Comcast cable and internet, and got their "On Demand" service a month ago. It adds a lot of programming and under the Music section are several Guitar lessons. Pretty cool, there's a clip of Joe Satriani I checked out, and he covers some nice things on modes. I haven't checked them all out but it's a nice feature. Anyone else have this or seen them?

Only known one person that's gone to Burning Man. Sounded....moderatly weird. It's in the middle of the desert, heat's up to a 100 degrees, and there's no services, to speak of although over the years the organizers have had to work with law enforcement to police the event somewhat, and I read this year the Medical services are amped up to provide some level of volunteer assistance to those who might need it. But basically the cord idea is, you're on your own, so come prepared to do what it is you want to do. In the desert, in the heat, and in the middle of nowhere, literally. My impression is that if you can work that out for yourself, it allows for a range of free expression that's not available elsewhere, where civil and societal constraints might ummmm....frown on what some people want to express. Which might be the ticket for some people. But....I don't get the impression that it's an entirely safe environment, as there's an amount of known risk involved...and aAlthough the community that gathers isn't doing so to cause harm, there's no constraints or support system if harm does occur, be it small or great. You're completely on your own and the community that may or may not be prepared to act responsibly. I guess those things make it off-limits for me, but for others it might work.

You could always start a new board, one that would do that. Invite everyone to come to it and participate. See how it goes. The benefit of another board to your suggestion would be that you could gather input, and give it a shot. GS has very minor guide lines. GS mostly provides the space. Different forums divvy up the space to allow for organizing sharing and discussion. The time and amount of participation is up to the users. The guide lines, such as they are, place some basic expectations on the use, not much more. As a result, discussion of all kinds takes place and doesn't follow a specific direction. The direction is determined by the users. If "garbage" is a euphimism for the amount of postings that take place, there's really no need. The fact that a lot of posts roll off over time to older pages reflects the interest in the threads, over time it ebbs and flows, ends, comes back up again, starts over. Using the Search feature allows for older stuff to be found. When the server space gets too packed, I'd assume a clean up and archiving can be done. If "garbage" is a euphimism for trashy, useless posts or threads that have no value, that's a matter of opinion. One person's garbages, another person's treasure. I suspect by the sounds of it that you're suggesting guidelines that would clean everything out regardless. That doesn't make sense to me, then you lose everything. If the intent is to simply start over fresh, start a new board and do that. You don't need to destroy the one, to have the other. Again, if GS appears like a club to you and you want a new one, start it. The 'Net's wide open.

I'm pretty sure what you've got Dot, are people acting out their emotional state, be it excitement, fear, joy, etc. I can't say for sure that there's no legit physical responses like the falling down, knocked out, jumping around stuff. The idea that a person is overtaken by the spirit of God and actively controlled doesn't stack up with what I read in the bible. Some motivated inspiration or coming together of circumstances I can see, to the end a person is compelled to choose a particular action, but I would always assume a person has to be make the choice and then act on their inspiration. So a person may feel an overwhelming sense of joy or realization. How they respond is up to them. What would be the correct response? I can certainly see times when a person simply wants to "let go" and jump for joy! But there's a fine line between that and orchestrating behavior according to some expectation that's being taught or copied. Like Mosely. I don't really know if that's the way he acted but it was said he did. I can think of a lot of reasons why he may have chosen to act that way, based on the inspiration he actually been experienced but I couldn't assume it was truly "the spirit" taking hold of him. It may have been he was unable to direct what he felt in any other way. Dunno.

Belle, you're gonna dig it! We're about an hour and a half (in traffic) north of the City by the Bay. We're hard at it this weekend, so if you feel like digging up my front lawn with me and laying some new water lines, come on up! I concur with all the recommendations, and as Jim said, the Bay Bridge will be closed this weekend. However - that Ferry ride out of the Ferry Building or Pier 39 is fun. The Blue and Gold Fleet goes out of Pier 39, which is a fun place to visit, get Ghiradelli Chocolate and some serious Sourdough French Bread - there's a one hour tour of the bay cruise that's really fun Ferry schedules from the Ferry Building to Saussalito including this weekend Fort Ross is out by the Golden Gate Bridge and a really interesting location to visit. Great Views too! DEFinitely cross the GG bridge and visit the Vista point on the northern side. If the weather's good, and it probably will be, you'll have a panoramic view of the entire bay. Take a camera, it's really cool. The best clothing to have for SF wanderings are some comfy sneakers and a nice comfy sweatshirt with a hood. Even if it's warm in the day it'll cool off at night. Over the bay in Sausalito is the Art Festival this weekend. We've gone several times over the years, and it's a blast. There's some vintage music on Saturday according to their calendar. And yeah - V. Sattui is fun, a great tasting room! And there's dinner restaurants nearby, reasonable, a nice way to chill out into the evening.

My wife and I attended a local group for awhile, non-Wayfer background. Nice folks. They had a "healing" service once after a meeting and they were doing the whole deal where they lined up catchers or whatever in a row and people lined up and were prayed for, but each one got this kind of *knock* on the forehead and they fell backwards and then walked away, presumably a tad giddy but none the worse for wear. Or better for the knock. Nobody got healed of anything that I saw or heard. What was a surprise was, that I didn't know they did the head knocking thing, and my wife went to be prayed for and when I saw what was going on, I watched a bit bemused. It was stupid, from where I sat. I guess if you didn't fall backwards, you'd get another knock as it seemed to be a kind of tug of war when she was there. I was about to put a stop to it when they gave up. I really had to ask the "pastor" what he thought they were doing. After a mile of mumbo jumbo, he pretty much had to admit they were performing a ritual, an order of service - line 'em up, whack 'em, sack 'em and then lead them off. They thought maybe something would "happen" if they did the right things. But there was nothing happening. Nada. Zipski. Ero-zay. I don't trust any of the modern day telescandalist stuff that goes on. Benny Hinn should be taken out back and whacked. Okay, with a paint gun. But it should be enamel paint, in the hair. ON an entirely diferent note - I read a long time ago, can't remember the book's name (somebody whack me on the head, it might come back) about Rufus Mosely. He was apparently an estastic, something of a mystic by some definitions. He lived to be "in the Lord", a state where he was in the power of the spirit. He would shake and have strong physical reactions sometimes when he preached. Interesting.

Oldiesman, here's another thought on the difficult/easy to understand verse method of interpretation - that the whole of the verses together give the interpretation. Much like a puzzle, the pieces fit the way they do and form the picture once assembled.There's no real hard/easy pieces, they just are what they are. F'instance, your Peter/Paul/Mary example is a good one, I think. They're a group, that has an identity that can't exist without all three. But there are three people, each completely different. If that's "the Trinity" and the way that God, Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit exist we wouldn't end up with 3 "gods" though, to my mind. To have that "god" you need all three, one without the other isn't "god". Same way as the music group. Peter and Mary won't make the same result. God "the Father"....is only The Father when there's offspring. Jesus Christ is His son, we are His children. Jesus Christ can only be the "son of God" if God is His Father. Holy Spirit can only come forth if there's a sender, a "giver", a source. I don't believe Jesus Christ "is" God, in that He's not God the Father, He's the son of God. So - is he "God the Son"? I guess is the question. Describing a Father/Son relationship implies a first/second order, IMO. A Father has a child. A Father builds a family, there's purpose, growth. Same as John 1:1 when it reads "in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God". When it's said elsewhere that God "sent" His son. All these kinds of references give a composite picture of who and what Jesus Christ was and is. He came forth from God, but a child that's born isn't the parent, they're the fruit of the parent's love. We hope anyway. I come up with this - Jesus Christ, the "son" of God was indeed always in God's mind and intent, and not solely as a Savior to a fallen mankind. More than God making things and saying "these things I made are mine", but an actual sharing of His own nature with man, His creation. I could say that Jesus Christ was always in God's heart as an idea, an intent, a desire. In essence, God is fulfilled in the life of Jesus Christ, as a father is when there's a child. And of course, there's a mother too, the family is all 3, or more. It may be that the true face of God is a family photo.

A Dan, I would heartily agree, with gusto! with this statement of yours: Dot, I've shared a few of my stor-eez here on GS and earlier on WD. Over the years, they just keep piling up. The basic response I've been able to come up with is that something is definitely going on in life that's similar if not always exactly like what I read in the bible, and read and hear from other sources. I've come to look at the bible in two ways - and the one that might apply to what you're looking for is that in the bible I can see people who had faith, and whose faith was built not only on what they "believed" to be true, but what they in fact experienced themselves. That experience, reality, stuff, call it what we want, led them on the paths they chose. In other words their faith was based on reality, reality they couldn't deny and wouldn't have wanted to. I do believe there's a God who's much like what I read about in the bible. I can't explain a lot about God, and I'm not trying anymore. But I do think I can see the bible's description of "Him" as a perfectly viable and recognizable reality. Likewise, Jesus Christ. I never met Him on earth of course, but I strongly believe that there was a Jesus Christ at one time and that His resurrection was an actual event. Healing, the miracles read about in the bible, can and do happen. I believe that too. I'd be a liar to deny certain things I've seen and experienced, and the only "authentic response" I feel I can honestly have is to say okay. Fine. Good. Those things happen. In my own ponderings I've found one of Jesus's instructions to be important - two people coming together and agreeing, in prayer to God, to see God's deliverance and justice in a given situation. Then remain constant and prayerful together, and expect God's guidance. I wouldn't say "expect this or that to happen" but rather to be watchful for what happens next. Healing can and does happen, of that I'm sure. No one should believe anything because I say so, but if we look around and listen and read all that goes on, we'll see ample proof of it I think, not unlike what the bible speaks of.

I can't quite view the past from a "what it should have been like" angle, although it's an interesting exercise. The big word with a little footprint is "it", to my mind. What's "it"? If it's my life, let's say: Crossing paths with Heef and Doop only would have taken me down a similar path personally, but where that would have gone, I can't imagine. I don't see an alternate universe where some kind of Way-like ministry exists where things are "better" and without a VPW. I don't think either of them were heading towards that sort of operation, and I certainly wasn't. But I can't speak to their personal goals over the span of time we're considering. I would imagine that individual statements and stamps in life for everyone would have produced entirely new efforts of all kinds. Many people believe there was a kind of "movement of the spirit of God" at that time, throughout the world and specifically the U.S. That's a difficult thing to wrap around, and while I don't deny it I can't break it down in the events of the 60's and 70's. It could very well have been, but I just dunno. There was a quote by the RC Pope alive at the time of 9/11, and he was asked if he thought 9/11 was God's doing, something along those lines. I probably should find the exact quote, but it stuck with me as I felt in general it spoke volumes, not so much about 9/11 but how God is viewed. He answered "It is not an easy thing to know the mind of God". He was being asked that because of some well known "ministers" who were claiming it was God's judgment on the U.S., and he addressed that with a powerful statement. Which is sort of the understatement of the century but a very thoughtful response seeing how at that time, and generally,mankind tends to try and pop the lid on God and claim the contents, finders-keepers. We may not have a big enough can opener to get the job done the way a lot of us wish we could. Not that this is doing that, but now I see. Your question opens up a lot of interesting thoughts though and one for me is that it's hard for me to consider all the variables involved clearly enough to come up with something. What I might LIKE - - picture socks as an early co-founder of the Guitar Institute. Socks meets Howard Roberts in San Francisco at a little club one weekend and we rap about the bible......I could run with that one! (I never did, but if we're looking at possiblities...!)

Costly - different pews, different views Oaks: One rendering similar to PFAL but defines it differently depending on which side of the register you're looking at costly And some more different strokes on costly

In places here, Roy Buchanan in the closeups at the beginning - you can see his hand is straight on and the wrist isn't bent. Then watch how his wrist bends up a little. If you held you hand straight out at the wrist, laid flat on a table with your hand closed slightly and the wrist lifted up SLIGHTlY. That's more of the level I try to maintain now, although you really can't without looking like you're trying to get a nut off a bad bolt under a car.The more I bend the wrist, the worse it will start to hurt. That and variation, so I don't get locked into one position all the time, seems to help. For several years I was heavy on page and site building, internet stuff, so I was developing at the puter for hours. Had to make sure I shook loose regularly. I've changed roles with a new company where I (will be) site managing more and less keyboard heavy hours. I've noticed a diff already.

Check it out Rick, that might do some good over time. Pat Martino - he holds it about at the height I've settled on - I go maybe even a tad higher. This other video kind of shows how his elbow lays out - what I try to do is move my elbow to the left and point more straight on towards the neck than he does, as the hand moves up and down the fret. This has the embedding disabled but the LINK IS HERE

Good topic. Couple articles I found - carpal tunnel and hand/wrist/arm pain guitarists experience - A short article on CT and guitar players Informative article on this stuff with Terry Myers of Taylor Guitar An article on various musician-specific maladies that occour - scroll to the CT part I've had some hand and wrist pain the last few years. Someone commented to me recently about my hands, from a musician's standpoint, she asked what else I'd done along the way. I guess they look pretty beat up for a musician/computer geek. I did go to a doctor once when I had some severe wrist pain and the first thing he asked about were some scars. I was embarrassed but he put me at ease, suggested Aloe Vera stuff. Once I started working on a keyboard a good part of the day that was the primary cause. I used to doubt "CTS" - but quickly found out I was a believer when my wrist and lower arms started hurting. Found it's basically forms of tendonitis, as Terry Myers describes above. At one point the pain was so severe in my left arm that I couldn't hold anything at a certain angle, even picking up a glass of water at a certain angle caused shooting pain through my wrist and arm. I'd like to hear more of what everyone's doing with their situations, if you're inclined. It would help everyone I think. I do know - using the keyboard at the wrong angle where my wrists are bent down and my hands are angled up - produces big-bad results over time. Just by adjusting my seat posture and keyboard so my hands were level, and slighly down with the wrist a little higher brought quick relief. It took about a month to ease up. Still happens today if I don't watch it. Where it carried over to the guitar was I could press the strings and play fine, my wrist angle had to remain more consistent. I couldn't move certain ways without pain. (fingers are a whole nother thing too it seems) I'd "originally" learned to have the guitar so it was about mid-section high, and the neck angled slightly up and about chest high. This is in fact the best position for me now. What happens is the wrist will angle to the right or left as I move up and down the neck, and if there's stress already there it gets magnfied by doing that and I feel pain. What I do is try to move my arm so that it places my hand at more of a right angle to the neck as I move and play. There's still some angling horizontally of course, but I try to minimize it by moving my arm a little. The primary goal is to get the hand in the right position to the neck, a right angle, so that the fingers play straight "down" to the strings, or close to it. There's still some variance, depending on what the music calls for, but I make that part of my practice. Sitting down I've had to find correct positioning too, sometimes I hold the body "normally" on my right knee, but I'll move it to my left or lap, to accomodate what I'm playing. Years ago I played the guitar low, below the belt for awhile. Wasn't practical for me despite the fact it was popular. The lower you hold the guitar the worse the angle is on the wrist. I definitely have to position it correctly and use my arm AND my wrist angle to avoid pain.

I hear ya Rick. I used 10's for awhile too, and went to 9's again while back. Right now my Tele has 10's, and a Fernandes and these Epi's with 9's. A Gretsch with flat wound 11's. I like the stretch and the little break it gives my fingers on the 9's. :) But overall I'd go heavier on everything if me fingers could take it. Certain things I just can't do on heavier, at this stage of the game anyway. The Epi's were a deal I got through a friend who worked for the company that made the paint finish. They're lighter than a Gibson, and while they're not "a" Gibby LP, they're full fledged Pauls IMO. The tone and playing is full toned with all the "beef" you'd want but not as much weight which I like at this point. Having had a Gold Top for years, I've looked around at Gibsons but not ready to pay the price they're asking. I like the playability and the price was an offer I couldn't refuse.

Ready to go, He was Ready to go. Felt his.... Hmm, wait. If you want it here it is, come and get it. Better hurry cause it's going fast. If you want it, here it is, come and get it. But you better hurry cause it may not last. Sigh. Hopeless. Sorry.

Okay, johniam. I retract my statement of disbelief. Yes, that's right. I do hereby state for all to see (and feel if they're inclined) that that the aged man of 70's wally got well, if you say it did. It would certainly get anyone's attention, figuratively speaking, to witness such an event let alone actually feel it. It warms my heart this night knowing that somewhere even now, the memory of the old man and his erection and the young lady who felt it still brings glory to God, in it's own unique way.

Cool, walking. I'm kinda picky about strings too, have a couple brands I like, although anything would do in a pinch, I guess. I got two Epiphone Les Pauls recently. Need to get some pics of them up. They're nice. The sound is classic LP, they have two "vintage" alnico humbuckers and some very cool paint finishes. Overall they play very well, out of the case. I had to dress the frets on one a bit, but the action with 09's - 048's is very nice.

I think it's in the "Big Things Learned in PFAL". If you look around page 64 or so, you can probably put your hands on it. There.

For real dooj. How much action is a 70 year old guy expecting? "Hey, check it out!! I got one!!! 50 bucks, it's all yours for an hour!!!" Never let it be said that I, socks, am not for men being men. Men MUST be men. At 7 or 70, manly men have need of properly working plumbing and all that goes with it. But the man goes along with the equipment. So there has to be some discretion in use and display. It's in the Old Testament, somewhere, forget where, but I'm sure it's in there, that men can be manly all the days of their lives, but of those to whom much has been given, much will be required. And the first shall be last, and the last shall be first unless they have reservations in advance. So there's plenty of room for everyone's manliness, but it has to be handled with wisdom. Above all, manly men must seek wisdom. And coverage. It's in Zachadiah 14, "let the manly men be covered and let their coverings be sufficient, lest their exposure be of such a manner that it cause others to stumble. Particularly in the kitchen around knives or anywhere there's heavy equipment in use".