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Oh my... Those brave little monkeys. Even in death...they're amazing! A moment of silence please, as we consider those who have gone on to the Great Big Sea.... . . . . Thank you. Goodbye little monkeys. Missed...but not forgotten! We barely knew you. We salute you!

DAMMM! the Dark Monkey! Well, it's back which must mean my horizontals got parallel with my verticals. Whew. FINally. Balance in the Force. Sweet. Scamillus, LH. Cool! After reading these posts, it hits me that one of the worst elements of the Way Corps program was egotism, the self centered perception that if it was in the program, it was right. If you didn't like it, something must be wrong with you. If you didn't understand something, you weren't WALKin', you can't go-you're too slow. If someone or something was hurtful, you weren't being strong in the Word, you can't stay-you're too gay. All of that self-constructed lawgic that said "If I/we/the program coordinators thought of it, it must be God working in me so get with the program loser or you SUK. Leadership - it's what's for dinner. Every dammed day. If the program had been more open and flexible it could have accomodated for the fact that everyone who had the job of coordinating it was learning while on the job. You know there's going to be mistakes, mis-fires and do overs in that kind of situtation. That was the beauty of it - in a group of such diversity as any given Corps you could really do something more than just run everyone through a curriculum and a bunch of mind bending exercises. Like Emporia's dances at 5 am, or doing stupid stuff just so you could say you'd done stupid stuff and survived and now you were "toughened up". Plus, the doggone thing started as a 2 year back to back thing. That's a helluva long time. Then it went to 3 with the interim, 4 with the "practicum". Where's it go after that, you're planning the Way Corps at 5 years old with an "Infant Doulos" program? Weird. We were young, full of energy, we had places to go, people to meet, stuff to do. Point the direction and cut us loose. You want word over the world? Give us 10 years. What's next? Instead, "sit down and shut up, we're planting trees". There were a great many experiences like that that I really do value, many people. But didn't most of the really exciting stuff, the stuff that worked, the stuff we wanted to do more of, happen spontaneously, born of love and enthusiasm and the Ultimate Youth Cry of "It's my turn! Check this out...Gimme a shot coach!"....? Then you turn around 5 years later and you're wearing a 3 piece plaid suit and worrying about chair order and seating protocol in case you get invited to dinner with the President of the local Kiwanis or something. And somewhere in the back of you mind you're thinking..."Heeey....I sure am spending a lot of time worrying about which side of my lapel my name tag goes on" and actually thinking it matters. Y'know????????????

WHOA....DUDE! Missing socks! Check behind the drier. I think there's a tennis racket back there too. Thanks for the kind comments. Likewise back atyall and big props to all my homies in the GS crib. 'Sall good. But this ain't bout me yall, word to the peepul, ups to this thread yah. Dunno, if it's gone or where it went if it is. Maybe it was deemed inappropriate. I didn't mean to insult anyone, least of all the wonderful person I sited in the post. If I didn't make it clear, I can see now how much I missed and how selfish I could be on my Quest for WOW-A-Go-Go. Or maybe it was mismatched comments, the blues got in with the whites. --> My heart was right, really. But maybe my execution lacked clarity of judgment, and the lack of developed ability to maintain and hold in mind images of victory in practical reality kept me from hitting the mark as a doulos athlete, seasoned with salt and paprika to the end that the truth could live in a fully formed realization with Kratos impact in the culture of our times, as I walked out boldly to determine that focus of mind that is only available to a true disciple of the living way of the household of the prevailing ones in our day and time. And hour. Ya think?

Cool, Juanny. You really do write well, at least to me and others I'm sure. The better you go, the gooder it gets. There was a woman in the corps that I was in that had a disability, one arm that didn't work. Looking back, I never spent much time with her really, I was doing all the stuff I was doing and didn't stop a lot to think about her situation. I guess I figured with all our prayer and her believing and all that stuff, she'd be healed one day or I was "too busy". But in the meantime, she dealt with everything I did, with less. Now I think she did it with more. She was always positive, involved, participating. A little shy like a lot of us were, but very nice. Can't ever remember hearing her complain. Looking back I think in her weakness there were little grains of iron building, taking form, shaping the person she was and would become, inside where it counts. If you don't give up you have a shot and she never gave up. As the years go on, I see the failings that come to all of us eventually and I think of her. Where I'm able and healthy I tend to not think to much about it, but where I lack, I have to work to improve if I'm going to do what I want. She must have worked so much harder everyday than I can ever imagine. Meanwhile I moved along so easily by comparison but she was much stronger really. But in weakness, strength can be forged in unlikely ways. For better or worse, the time in the Way Corps was like time anywhere would have been for me I think, but with some really incredible people. Most everyone I met was unique. If I had to do it over I probably would but I'd spend a lot more time getting to know everyone. More and more I can see this life has been so good, but when this one's over I won't be coming back this way again, not by the same route anyway. :)--> It's kind of corny but I'd like to have as much of all the great people I've known with me to remember and enjoy - if all the bad were burned away and all the best moments rolled in to one and handed back to me - that would be a mighty fine place to start eternity :)-->

Diazbro, good question. Shiny scalp, the ultimate teaching faux pas? ("Powder! Powder it NOW!") New checklist for The Teacher's lectern: mints - check water - check ashtray - check powder - check Ron Popeil's "Real Hair" Spray for Men - check

Digitalis- :D--> :(-->Sounds like a TV commercial, one where the people are smiling and laughing, playing tennis, leading happy active lives, and at the bottom in small print the screen reads: Possible side effects may include headaches, abdominal pain, throat cramps, liver failure, nausea, diarrhea, dry mouth, moist eye, dripping ear, nodding head and sexual dysfunction. Do not take if you are pregnant, have been pregnant, thinking of becoming pregnant or know anyone who could be pregnant. And then the voice over says: The way to abundance and power...it runs in the family!

wasway, the truth that sets you free is free indeed! The surest way to tell an emmissary of the UDaM ( Unamazing Dark Monkey/. ) is if they ask for money! They use it to finance their evil ventures against the true ASM's!!! Give no quarter in the battle against darkness! Nor dimes nor dollars! I'm being followed now, so must make this short.

Thanks Hope! Sounds like it was a little easier on the rear with 2 hour sessions. 50 bucks, reasonable. Plus you get all that paper in the syllabus. ;)--> So the "principle of believing", session 12. What was your take on that? I heard from someone way long time ago that the whole WAP class seemed to be more for someone who was already a grad of PFAL or someone who'd been in the ministry already, rather than a new off the street peep. Was that the idea of it, to reteach the grads? I'm curious where the Way's gone with their teaching on believing to receive and all of that. I've been lightly studying the topic from different religious histories, trying to see where it comes in to play in doctrines. I ran in to "Kefer" (khefer, or Xeper) which has it's roots in Egyptian religions from what I can tell - "pagan". It's a word that means "to come into being" or "I have come into being" and is used to signify a moment or state where a person exercises their will to determine or control the future, using ritual, icons, symbols, etc. ("layman's" description). Some of the ideas reminded me a lot of what the Way incorporated into their teaching on believing - holding something you've prayed for in mind, visualizing it, repetitively praying for it, "using" the name of Jesus Christ, "operating" the power of God. I'm wondering if LCee continued in the believe-to-receive direction in his stuff or how he handled it...?

Take some uh, whipped cream.... :D-->

Well, diazbro, those hair licks become less and less of a problem as the years go by. :D--> I've never posted this before, but one of the worst people with all of this was Don W, all the more because he was a trustee for years. I hope he's resting comfortably now, but good Lord he got in to Way Prod's hair at times with the most rediculous comments...he had no understanding of anything musical really or "spiritually" for that matter, just mostly pandered to "Dad" and what he himself liked. Classic Don quote was one year when they were changing out a bunch of Way Prod musicians and he said at corps week "we're going to get some people who need a little less makeup". Don was a nice guy in many ways but he had the perception of a toad and the ears of a flashlight. It was always amazing how some people felt it their responsibility to mess with Way Prod, ala "Dr". Guess it made them feel like they were really doin' "it", whatever that was.

Congrats you two! Best to all, from the west coast socksters.

WAP questions, if anyone knows - how many sessions? how much did it cost? how did it end, last session?

Tom! get the Amazing Sea Moneky! salts! An OLM needs assistance!!!! Feel the love. Be the love. Live the love! See the videos. Hear the videos. Hide from the videos!

ROR...I know. My monkey's in for a spanking. :D--> (no way can that sound right!) Learnedtoolate, I thought so. And yes, indeedy. Debra's a sweetheart, many moons since I've seen her, she doesn't look that much older than I remember. It's weird stuff though. Religious, very religious looking. For that group/chorale stuff, I think Hillsongs kicks serious a$$. Course they have Darlene Zcech (sp?). But they have a great sound, the instruments sound real and the singing is exciting. This Way stuff sounds like muzak. Very digital, no resonance. Weird. Lyrically, well, won't go there.

Infiltration!!!! Beware the Dark Monkey and his mocking minions...

Hmmm. Hm. That's Debra O on the one song. Right? Hmmm. Whoever said "this ain't your father's Way Ministry" was right. It's your grandfathers.

Chek it out, RG! One thing I really enjoyed hearing discussed was the diversity of beliefs, ideas and opinions and conflict (gasp!) :)--> that were present in the first century church. Paul was right in the middle of that and all of the religious, political and social turmoil of the times. Many people look at those guys and gals thru an idealized filter as if they all somehow knew what they were doing and were planning for all of us someday to sit down and read all about what they wrote and did. Not so. The early church had serious conflicts and Peter, Paul and James are mentioned in the second half of the show quite a bit as to the possible underlying questions of doctrine they were dealing with. Good stuff to see.

Yes, I watched it. It was interesting. It covered the growth of Christianity and looked at Paul as the primary builder, architect. How accurate, dunno. It gave more of a view of the social and political conditions of the time and opinions about how Paul might have thought and worked, Christianity was looked at forming out of Jewish thought and faith and that was interesting. They discussed the conflicts of the time and the devlopment of the "Jesus sect", which I thought was really interesting. A lot of ideas, information were put out on the table which was good. Paul says in Galatians he went to "Arabia" and spent time in that area. The period after the road to Damascus and his next mention in Acts is figured to be somewhere around 10 to 13 years from what I know. During that time, there's not a lot of detail as to exactly what he did, went, etc.

A La, I suspect the very same! "Snappy Tom" martini mix....it HAS to be the DARK MONKEY'S evil minions at work! Taunting OLM's! As we be the love, feel the love and live the love we will prevail however against these very hounds of hell!!!! Or something. Malpacks...oddly enough, yes....yes!! I didn't realize it at the time! MALPacks! Monkey Abundant Life - Packs! Tiny packs, filled with goodness! We have to be alert. No doubt The Dark Monkey's SCUM's....(Sea Counterfeit Unamazing Monkeys)will be masquerading with their arm bands of love, bringing mischief instead! DAMM! the SCUMS!!!!

I've got that on for tonite too, rottiegrrl! Looks interesting. Paul's been a subject I've studied over the years, very interesting figure in the N.T. to me. I'm looking forward to the show. You're right, Paul didn't know Jesus personally that it's recorded. They lived in the same time frame certainly, but it's never mentioned that Paul knew, met or saw Jesus while He was alive. The Pharisees were an interesting bunch. They formed somewhere inside 200 BC and were part of the whole Maccabean revolt against the Greek rule which was very hard against the Jews and finally the desecration of the Jewish temple in Jerusalem in 167 BC led to mass rebellion . It was a religious uprising, spiritual but in a political context. They must have been a rowdy bunch in that day. Then along comes Rome in the mid-60's BC. In Paul's day they were relatively free to carry on with their traditions but under Roman rule of course. Between the Sadducees, Pharisees and the Essenes you've got quite a range of Jewish leadership.

Tom, I've been making progress. I recently found an old Life magazine from 1958 with an interesting piece covering bring shrimp experiments being done in the Mojave Desert by a Dr. Filia in which he was pursuing a technology he called "Aqua-lution". His premise was that evolutionary processes could be sped up and observed by using species such as brine shrimp. Since brine shrimp regenerate so quickly he felt that his experiments would show results quickly using them. It was dealt with as a humorous piece, like "more whacky stuff from California". After doing more research on this Dr. Filia I discovered a great deal of his work up to 1961, at which point it completely stopped. No mention of him, his work, or any of his experiments seems to exist after May of 61. Except for one. Using the Freedom of Information act, I secured documents from several U.S. agencies, including an FBI file from 1963 which contains only one document, an internal memo titled "Filia Status/Project Mars Monkey - Area 51 - TOP SECRET". All of the text is blacked out but I could almost read the last few lines. Using some Photo Shop techniques I enhanced the page text and it seems to read as follows (I've inserted my best guesses in some spots): "[subjects] will not finish...[fiber optic]...? technology matrix. Experi[ment] can't continue without finished flowcharts. [silica] fusion completed, all [other processes are] at a standstill. Filia not responding to [chemical] stimuli.[Communication] at a standstill. Hanger 3 outer wall breached at 01400 hours. Containers 12, 13, [14] displaced and empty. Recommend complete and immediate removal of all equipment and files. Requesting Unit 9 [on site] for disposition..[?]." My sense of urgency rose as I headed down the lonely corridor of I-95 today, deep in thought. Fiber optic technology didn't reach a practical level of use until 1970...and wasn't used by the U.S. government till what, 1975? What's out there that the government was so afraid of that they had to secure and cover it up and hide it all these years????

A la, the blue wristbands are showing up everywhere on the wrists of dancing SEa Monkeys! as they move out! It's amazing! A few weeks ago boxes of them were found on U.S. 101 in northern california by the Highway Patrol where they'd apparently dropped off the back of a truck. Little tiny wristbands with "MOW" embossed on them. I tried to track them down and was led to a storage facility in Ukiah, CA. After numerous phone calls and dozens of forms I was allowed access to the storage yard and directed to bin #78 and given the key. When I opened the door I found...3 boxes of "Snappy Tom" martini mix and nothing else. --> Supposedly the bin hadn't been opened since the wristbands had been dropped off there. HA! I suspect mischief afoot!!! The emissaries of the Dark Monkey! had beaten me to it! I'm sure of it. DAMM! that Dark Monkey!!! Who knows what evil uses he'll put them to??? Counterfeit MOW'S??!! Be on the alert people! Be aware. Be very aware....!

ExWayDaryl, a short answer (bout all I know really :)-->) would be no. The domains - com org net, etc. are established to broadly group sites according to purpose...com is generally for commercial business, org is for organizations of various kinds such as educational, universities, etc - non profits generally use the org domain names. You can maintain business using any domain name. The distinction would be profit/non-profit. Still, it's common practice to register all the domains for a given site name. IMO, the Way would have an interest in owning all the domains for a name. I think this is where Pat's saying the issue is trademark and copyright based. If I registered socks.org, that's it. Someone else could register socks.com and carry on under that name all day long and on the basis of the domain registration I couldn't insist that they stop. But if I had "socks" trademarked and/or copyrighted to protect and own that name I could proceed based on their use of the name, not the domain registration itself. The use of the url name is relatively recent, since the inception of the "world wide web". Behind it is the actual ip address assigned to each registered domain name - "20.234.45.67". That's what I "own" along with the word/name I register, and each IP address is distinct and different. The word "name" crosses over into other areas of ownership too, though. F'instance again, someone could register "TWI" and they might hear from The Welders Institute before they'd hear from The Way International. But if the use was clearly related somehow to welding I suppose they'd have a case to make that I stop using it based on their trademarking. (I don't know, it's just an example). Pat, the more I understand about this the more I follow Long Gone's view. I still feel like I don't have the whole picture, but frankly the sum of 15,000 dollars for a domain name - I didn't realize at the outset that was what you were doing. I still feel like they're numb nuts for handling the whole thing the way you've described but in fact that's why people trademark and copyright names, so that they can own and control the use of it. I'd never expect them to act in a civilized manner so any ham handed behavior is to be expected. As far as I understand where you're coming from on this, I understand how you feel but there's a lot going on it appears. It's why I have nothing to do with them and won't get mixed up with them in any way. It's bound to bring the worst out of everyone involved. If I don't have to get in a snake pit, I don't. :)-->

Glad to be of soivice. :)-->

---disingenuous?