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TSRTS, is that like RC, Roman Catholic? :D--> Nope, I'm not wc. I was in the wc program though, 4th. That was a long time ago. Have we passed paths previously? :)--> Or do you just find my replies incomprehensibly reprehensible? :D-->

Shaz, the ethical application of the "if God had to choose" scenario is interesting to explore. I guess I'm taking it as an exception kind of situation. Exceptions will abound in Christianity though when we look at it from a right and wrong doctrine standpoint. So if the proposition is that when "right doctrine", not "error" is what's being presented a person can function by a different standard than what Jesus proposed and Paul taught about responsibility, accountability and core beliefs and practices, we end up in a truly exceptional situation that I find out of whack with the whole of the bible's teachings. But certainly not out of whack when we look at history and what the capabilities are of humans to perform in life. People screw up, fall short, do wrong, etc. To me, the question isn't if God is able to work with imperfect humans. The question is broader to me, "why do seemingly good things happen to and for bad people?" Given that we're all bad at one point or another I think we can all answer it in our own way. People in the bible that are written about did certainly carry out God's "word" who were less than admirable people at times, but the standard we would strive to achieve isn't that. But will it happen? I would say yes, of course. When the question is focused on God's "word" and someone presenting a so-called "right" teaching of it I don't believe the answer is really any different though than it would be for anyone in any of life's matters or endeavors. The same basic rules of life taught by Jesus would apply. Paul taught grace abounds. In practical application I think we see that in the basic way that life appears to be set up and to progress. If we all physically died immediately because we did one or two things that were wrong for us or others we'd all be dead. But we see death in many forms as wrong doing progresses repetitively over time. Sooner or later, we all come to our end. What goes on between birth and death appears to determine the quality of the life we have. Basic stuff, right? If someone were to gouge people for water in Florida right now, charging 20 dollars a gallon for purified water, when they sold it for 2 bucks a week ago, we'd be aghast. Immoral. Unethical! Bad motives, selfish, despicable!!! But the person doing it might say "it's business, I'm a business man! And I got water, you need it!" Sure, a bad human, good business. Replace the water with the "word"...now it's alright? Good business but bad human. Bad human!!!

Yeah, that's about it Shaz, it would seem to me after reading that section. The thing is, John's god sounds like a chess player, but is he a good one? If he HAD to make the choice, he'd want his "word" to be spread by someone with "wrong motives", rather than someone who's motives were right, but they were in "error". So as long as you're making the right moves, you're stylin'. John's god might not prefer that route, but he'll endure it for the sake of his "word". Everybody's gotta make choices. .... Matt. 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. Mt 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. Uh oh. Jesus says that without the action the intent of a persons thoughts is like the action itself. Buuuut my motives don't have to be right with John's god, as long as I'm right about the "word". Mt 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. Double uh oh. These guys say all the right things about their god, but inside, they're in ciao town. No deal, babeeee. Doesn't wash. Scratch it out! Interpolations, we got interpolations! Triple uh oh. Johns' god contradicted the foundational teachings of Jesus which He repeated over and over in many places that God desires the heart, intent and motives of a person to be right towards God and their fellow man and paraphrased, they can spew all the funny stories and hot bible they want but if they're really after the recognition, money, babes and vindication they, in a word, suck. Badly. My whole bible just fell to pieces, I guess VPW's not so proud of me anymore.

--> No, wait.... ;)--> Phil. 1:15-19 15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will: 16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds: 17 But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel. 18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice. 19 For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ, ----------------------------------- It doesn't imply that at all. Anyone who can read Ye Olde English can see that. What it says is that despite the contentious efforts of people who took advantage of his imprisonment to advance themselves and their teaching, Christ would be still preached and for even that much, Paul was grateful. But Paul doesn't say that given a choice, God would prefer that or that God would make that choice. I'd put it under "lemonade out of lemons". It's a strong reminder that we can, at the least, be thankful to some extent for even a self serving "teacher" who teaches about Jesus Christ under pretense and for the wrong reasons. You'd think God would want better for his children though.

Possible Thread Topics and Titles: "Hi, Am I Really Me?" (might do well in a new 'Philosphical Discussion' forum) "Hi, Will The Real You Please Stand Up Over There, You're In My Spot." (Book Forum) "Hi, I'm Lon Jinn, The Last Jedi." (Movies - Star Wars Discusson Thread) "Hi, No, Really. HI." ('Sincerity-The New Paradigm' forum) :D-->

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Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard...what planet were they from if not Mars! I suspect that Amazing Sea Monkeys! invented rock and roll to communicate the primal message of love and sharing! You know Buddy Holly knew. "Words of Love", "Everyday"...Holly knew. He was from Texas...Toms' from Texas. Put it together people! It's right there and it's amazing! It fits! Since rock and roll embraces all styles and has borrowed from all early American cultures, it makes a good platform from which to launch this reissuing of the original! But I really dig that Celtic stuff too. There's got to be a text that will open this up. We'll find it, I know. It has to be there! Thanks for the feedback, A la. I'm going to add another (brace yerself, I'm easily encouraged) toon here. I'm not sure why you can't load them, Brother Lingo. --> This one's shorter. You can always right click and save as, might help. Maybe it's skipping due to the Dark Monkey's mischief!!! He's been laying low of late. DANG that one, I do!! A blues rock melange, started as a jam with the kidlets, one guitar, bass and drums and one overdubbed at the end. Got too weird at the end, so it fades. It's got vocals, but that version hasn't been finished yet. Key of C. Needs harp! Check it out - You're Comin' Home With Me

Now that I think about it, anyone remember The Fabulous Bumblebees ?

Genre: A category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, marked by a distinctive style, form, or content. A sound, sort of. An identifiable sound. The sound of amazement??!!

As Invader Zim would say: "Finally, things are back to normal. In fact, they're even more normal now than they ever were". Looks fine to me. I must have come inbetween the more violent disruptions because I never saw more than the right hand column font size decrease, from about a 2 to a 1. Everything else has always looked normal as cake.

Should I make it bigger? The quote I mean? :)--> I'm only seeing smaller fonts on the Forum listing pages. These fonts appear normal. In fact, they're only smaller on my trouser, I mean browser, on the main Forum listing page, to the right, where it says "last post"...the rest appears normal. I'm down with those changes, 'ey.

Is this the Amazing Sea Monkeys HTML Friendly Forum!?

Tom of the Strangeshire may have a thought... To share is to live and to live is to share! A la, did your hubbie check out the tune, Waddid he think? Maybe we can have a sea monkey genre! Music in the ASM genre. Then we can have departures from the genre, for diversity. And then we can come back to the ASM roots.... It'll be swell!!!!

Raf - All threads are supposed to go through the Mod Admin Consolidaton Kit, or "MOCK" for short. I swear I saw this on a thread earlier but it may have been grandfathered in to the deletion migration that followed the new procedures. Basically, everyone gets a kit with forms, quality control criteria and a nifty little software tool that determines 1)where your thread can be best located 2) size restrictions and 3)forms for special requests like use of the "GSProfanity Icons/Emoticons". There's some neat new ones available, "Poo Poo Head", "Tool Nose", etc. I'm surprised you didn't get your copy yet. Just kidding. Paw, just kidding...put down that....PAW!!! just kiddddding!!!! :D--> really. Satori's back, you say? I may have to check out that J Dub site. Are they still online and alive post-Satori? Just kidding, all J Dubs. Really....! Put down that .... stop!! justkiddddding!!!! don't spread that....stoppp!

UH, now we're talkin'... ...it saves you time! and it's healthy...it cuts the fat!

A la, years ago I was in a band that used to go and set up in .... a laundromat, in Berkeley California. On Telegraph Ave, which was the "hippie" avenue in the 60's, there was a coin laundromat a few blocks down from Sproul Plaza. The back door was always open, to an alley behind it. So one night a band I was in named "Cosby" was jamming around and someone came up with this idea. We didn't have a gig that night and were messing around. So we drove over there, pulled up in the alley and just started putting our stuff up in the back, found a couple outlets, plugged everything in and started playing. We were able to fit the drums, amps and a single p.a. speaker with the system. We did it a couple times. The place would fill with people and we'd be able to play for awhile before the police would show up and ask what the !@#$ was going on and if we had a permit, etc. We'd play for awhile longer and finally get chased out. It was fun to do, "stealth" gigs.

Yeayuh! Y'know I've always pictured the Snorky characters when I picture Amazing Sea Monkeys! They have that little snorkley thing on the top of their heads, which could be a retrofitted oxygen line, left from when they migrated to earth, 1000's of years ago! I think the French know more than they're letting on!!!! Oui! The French know. You KNOW they know.

"Les Snorks" was an animated children's series made in France. I saw it somewhere on tv, maybe Nickleodeon or a PBPS station, not sure. They were cool undewater creatures, that swam around and had adventures! This page has an image too, scroll down a ways and look on the left panels.

Snorky Pics!

A band? Sounds amazing! Bluzeman plays guitar, right?! Leseee...ASM is a great name for a band! Name reminds me vaguely of a band out of Northern Cal that calls themselves "The Phenomanauts". They're a wacked out bunch, travel in a space-d up van and do gigs all over. My daughter's heard them and says they're actually pretty good, they usually dress in a sort of astronaut them, silver suits, goggles, etc. One thing they do is show up at big concerts that hit town and drive in, b.s. their way through the loading entrance and wander around till they get set up, or find power and a likely spot. They fix breakfast burritos in the morning in their rv and deliver them to the production tent, ask for nametags and get tour id badges by making friends that way. I think they've done this at "Lollapalooza" and some tours like that. They set up before anyone knows they're there, and they play on the daystage, or anyplace they can. Sell CD's and stuff along the way, since they usually don't get paid at these gig. From there they just try to follow along and apparently get grafted in as the tour continues. Amazing!

Hmmm. Well, maybe all of the barf bags and stuff is just to build an impression of the enormity of what's about to happen. Sort of a carny rap: "Ladeeez and gentlemen, what you are about to see beyond these curtains is not for the faint of heart! We ask that children under 12, please leave now! Nothing that has come before and nothing that will come hence is like unto this! Men, remove your belts, wallets, watches and any metal objects in your pockets, please! and place them in the baskets attendants are passing around even as I speak! They will be returned to you! Women, your handbags and satchels may be placed in the baskets at the door! Please take note of the registered nurses to the left and right and mark their faces, for if you require medical attention they will be there for you! We cannot be held in blame if you suffer mental or phsyical astoundment from the incredibly unexpected enormity of what...you...are about...to see! And now................................. on with the show!!!! Or maybe not. Athough it's seems really weird. People complain they were made to listen to all sorts of horrible Way music oh my god it's killin' me, and then turn around and, well..... I'm lost.

A la, sounds like a great time. :)--> ... nice. Dance toonz - I wrote the song. The percussion are from samples I used to build 2 drum tracks using "Acid" loop software. The woman's voice, "poink" sounds at the beginning, "flute" call at the start, and crowd sounds are samples also, from "Acid" loops. The rest of the bass and guitars are me, recorded on my deck. The swooping squeedle effect is just me banging on the guitar and messing with the sound of it. I think there's maybe 6 guitar tracks total - one bass guitar, plus an assortment of 6 strings. I wrote the basic idea to start with on guitar, and then found and assembled the Acid drum and sound effect tracks on a pc and then imported them to my deck. Then I added the guitar and bass tracks on top of it directly on the deck. It went through several versions while I mixed it and tweaked it. So it's like, me and my little digital band. :D--> Glad you are enjoying it! The love is shared with all!

Liar typos aren't really the issue. I love typos. Embrace them. Cares them. See? :)--> There are two issues I see immediately in regards to how you present your views as you have - accuracy, reliablity and integrity. Typos reflect on them. Assuming you're serious, and I will, you invite people to fly to your city and meet with you for a witnessed and taped dicussion of important and serious matters in regards to VPW, the Way and apparently much more. First - integrity and reliablity. I have no idea who you are or what validates your opinions, ideas and information. You haven't stated that. Put as a question - "what makes you a worthwhile candidate for such an investment of time and money?" What do you have to offer? Integrity hasn't been established, in the sense of the makeup and quality of what you have to offer. Neither has reliability. How reliable a source are you? While your offer is very aggressive it could be a complete waste of time if you're a bad source of information, worse still if you're just a well-meaning idiot who really has nothing to offer but simply wants to get something off his chest and considers it valiant to do so. If the former you offer nothing but endless debate and possible personal humiliation to yourself. If the latter you could accomplish your challenge by simply carrying it out on GS in a "free" posting environment where you could 1) present your information, 2) explain and document it and 3) receive responses and discussion. And all for "free", no airline peanuts, little hassle. This fly up and see me sometime stuff just comes across as bluster and blow and more blow than anything. So whether you're 1 or 2 of the above, or something else entirely, why not take me up on it? State your case, document and explain it, and let everyone who chooses have the benefit of it? Here. Now. Accuracy - well, it would be at least a good will gesture towards establishing yourself as someone worth reading and visiting for such a serious challenge if you typed your ideas coherently. The fact that you don't doesn't tell me you're entirely out to lunch. It just indicates that perhaps you're in too big a hurry, rushing to get your ideas out without giving them the benefit of a second read. If that's the case, what does it say about your other ideas? One thing about VPW you will probably know and remember - he was a big one for accuracy. In speech, print, you name it. An incorrectly spelled word...just one...in a Way Magazine and he'd be down everyone's throats. Why? "If you're not accurate on the little things you won't be accurate on the big things, the Word people!" If you're going to establish yourself so aggressively as a reliable and worthwhile source of anything resembling the Word, and do it in the same breath as VPW and his ministry, that would be a place to start - accurately rendering your contributions. Either way, I'm not a total word-nanny. I'll read what you have to say either way, if you'll say it. I'm just suggesting that if you're going to puff up your uh, chest and invite the whole world to a duke-out, make it at least appear like you've got something in your glove. edited for .... tiepose of all manner and shape!

Figured you'd be tired of it by now Tom, thanks! We got yer dancin' sea monkeys!, yer rabbits. Let it rain the love of the amazing sea monkeys! over all! :P-->

No chit WhiteDove! We got monkeys everywhere! Speaking of rabbits Tom, here's an instrument song I recorded for all lovers of Amazing Sea Monkeys! everywhere. It's titled Desert Rain Dance (I Like That Beat) - click on that it'll come up. For your auditory enjoyment and cranial pleasures. Hope you guys like it, it's sort of a collage of different ideas in a jazzy container. It started as a weird little idea and ended up a weird...bigger idea. :D--> Big thanks! to Bluzeman for providing the server space to store it!