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That's a funny story! Oaks, I'd love to meet Magic at some point. He's quite a player. Maybe Magic and Nick was pullin' your leg. :) I would love to see Bela Fleck, sometime too! Victor Wooten is Mr. 5 fingers on the bass too. Here's a blooz man story for you - I was a teenager, about 17 and playing in a rock band, "Rain", we did a lot of the current music and some blues tunes, few originals. We played 3rd billing with Albert Collins at a skating rink in, think it was Hayward (California) about 1967 or so. He was well known but not as widely yet as he would be. He was a sharp player to say the least and I'd seen him at a small club in Oakland just before this. So we're out in the parking lot after we played the opening set and getting a breath of... fresh air and off a ways there's a big Caddie, windows rolled up and full of smoke. Out pops this huge guy out of the back, couple others, and I recognize Collins. He strolls over and slips a fresh pack of Pall Malls out of his coat pocket and snaps the pack on the back of his hand and asks if we have a light. Well, sure. I remember he had that kind of cool, polite vibe going, like he was at the top of his game and knew it. So he goes to open the pack, from the bottom. He flicked the little flap open part way and pops a ciggie out and I light him up, staring at the pack. He looked very...mellow himself and he holds it up with this sly grin and says "Open it up like that, she always look like a new pack, hah ha huh". And he snapped it back in his hand and slipped it back into his coat pocket. I had a white Telecaster at that time, which was his guitar of choice of course and we talked Fenders for a minute and then he said "Gotta split. You know..." and he winked at me and said thanks and split. Wish I had that Telecaster today!

When was that, WW? Could you explain what that meant?

What's the hypo-question have to do with the original question? I have a hypothetical question - How many TWI leaders that followed the sex doctrine of VPW does it take to screw in a light bulb? (Answer #231: show me where it's documented in print or tape you were supposed to get in the light bulb!)

Dang, Belle! I wish I could ship you out a tree from the West Coast. Up north here they're going pretty cheap, you can get a 5-6 footer for 25-30 bucks. They've been through the roof, years past. But this year there seems to be good prices on them. Ain' no way I'm going to pay 75 bucks for a "nice" tree though. We cut down trees for years, and then 3 years ago found a good sale on an artificial tree and got it. You look close, it looks real. It's a 7 footer, this year we made a 6 footer out of it. :D It's decorated with a lit star at the top, which we got years ago in Florida, believe it or not - one year when we got two trees, free and neither of them looked any good, so I cut the bad sides off each of them, wired them together and had one fine lookin' tree. The star cost a couple bucks and it's actually a pretty nice looking ornament. It always goes on top and it does bring back memories. Our family has lots of ornaments we've made over the years, even going back before we had children, and lots of homemade ones the kids have made since they were little tykes. Some sprayed dough things that are kind of cool. Some photo insert ornaments too. We also have some simple colored globe types, plus a whole variety of others. We pick and choose every year and sort of follow whatever our mood is, but always include some of the 'old' handmade favorites. We've got lights on it. I love Christmas, the tree, the whole deal. I love it when it's the only thing lit in the living room and it's quiet. We have a Christmas village we usually put up under the tree but didn't this year. I made platforms for it and we cover it with white cottony stuff. It's got light, streetlights and stuff. The cats like to play Catzilla with it, but we finally got them trained last couple years. We may put it up yet, dunno, I suspect they may have been consorting last year to play trained and are planning some kind of major attack this year. They're like that. We burn candles and spray Evergreen and Lemon spray and it's downright outdoorsey. Now that our chilluns are older, it's a nice way to do it for us. Come January-something we'll pack it up and put it back in the garage to await another year!

Noted in last conversation with own 20-somethings: "tight".....that's good "off the hook".....that's good too. "hook you up".....take care of you, get you something, connected to something, something to something Keanu -howdy! (old guy talk for hello) When my son is talking to his friends, it's a "dude" fest. "Whoa, dude......dude!......yeah, dude......that's tight dude!......duuuuuude...!...."

Thanks Oaks. Magic Slim, oh yeah. I saw him on TV awhile back. HOT. I'd like to catch him live. Saw Magic Sam at the Fillmore in San Francisco a year or so before he died. GREAT player, very much in that Chicago sound. Died way too young. I'll keep an eye out for the Electric Soul Method. They've got a nice site. Thanks for the tip! I'm listening to some Robert Cray now. "I'm in a phone booth baby, Number's scratched on the wall. I'm in a phone booth baby, Number's scratched on the wall. I'm new in Chicago, got no one else to call..." Cray can spank that plank.

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Hey there, Godisgoodalways. I'm not sure what your dilemma is, after reading your post. If doctrinal differences keep you separate from other Christian churches, ministries, fellowships and organizations, and those doctrines are TWI specific or based, you're probably going to be happiest going to one of the so-called splinter groups or an acceptable TWI fellowship for the activities you want that involve other people. If you feel like the centralization of authority and money were the root of the problems in TWI there's a lot of groups you'll probably be happy with. Most of the ex-TWI groups I know of have done something to address those things, from what I've heard. It sounds to me like the various ex-Way groups out there don't hammer down on the individual fellowships they support with teaching. Can't say from first-hand experience though as I'm not involved with any, but that's what I hear. It sounds like the one you've been attending that gets some of their teaching material from Geer is one you like. Again, I don't see the dilemma. If you like it and you feel you're on solid ground personally, what is it you're looking for exactly? It sounds like - and I mean this very nicely - that you're looking for some kind of validation for what you're doing, some means to be sure or maybe find out if anyone has done the same thing and what they've learned....? My only constructive comment would be to this part: In an effort to not be deceived again by the men and women I choose to follow... Not sure what you mean by that but my advice would be to not put emphasis on following men and women. Treat the teachers, pastors, whatever, as equals to yourself, people who want to contribute to the body of Christ in a specific way. You want to contribuite in your specific way too. You already understand that men and women are fallible, just like you. If you believe doctrinally that it's necessary to have a man or woman to follow I'd suggest you determine carefully what it means to "follow" them. You need open and equal communicaton with anyone in a "leadership" or service role.

I was going to add when our kids played little league in town here, it was a great time for them and challenging. Both our kids played baseball. My daugther, 3rd base. She was a real slugger, always good for a single or a double. She had a tough time fielding, and had to work at it and did a good job, I always loved to see her at the plate, she could really see that ball. My son played 5 years all together, the last two years he came into his own and did really well. The final year he ripped. Has the longest home run hit record that year, may still, not sure. (out of the baseball park, across the adjacent soccer field and into the street for a grand slam that stopped the game. Part fluke, part smash. Same game almost did it again for a triple that brought in another run) His average soared then settled in around the .400's. We've still got the two of the balls that he hit in dramatic at-bat home runs. He was breakin' some windows that last year. :) It was always fun to see him bat because everyone would always get very focused - what's going to happen? The ooach worked with him, and we didn't really like the way the team was run. I mean didn't like it. But he stayed patient, wanted to do well. He wasn't at all like that his first couple years, if it got weird, he'd drift. We encouraged him and he wanted to do it so we did our part. Mid-year they lost a player and they asked our son to catch. His legs would get sore, he didn't really like it. He played left field, had a good arm and he liked the way it was. So he switched and I'll tell you-I'm his Dad and he was the worst catcher you'd ever seen. The pitching could get wild, and half the time the first few games it'd be a squall at home plate to find the ball. Runs would come in. The ump's struggled because they were getting whapped more with the ball. The ump's were pretty good guys that put in a lot of time, but they'd get short when they became the back-stop for a game. But our son stayed at it, practiced and eventually did really well with it. Along the way he took some hits for his playing, and he felt like hey, if you'd left me where I was, I'd be doing fine. He didn't ASK for this y'know. But the team "needed" him there and he agreed to give it a shot. His batting stayed consistent but he got sore doing the catching, plus he got grief! That final year he made the "All-Star" team and we were very proud. Some of the ump's came by at the picnic that year and congratulated him. They said they'd voted him "Most Improved Player" of the season, because while he could hit well and field, when he started catching he'd STUNK, but he'd gotten hold of it and managed the position. I was proud of him. The ump's point-blank didn't like his coach who had a son on the team that the coach had tried to front all season, often to the detriment of the rest of the team. But it balanced out that year and our son got his due. It doesn't always work out that way. They turned around and the coach of their All-Star team's son was the pitcher and they ended up hardly playing our son at all. It was a little hard to swallow as there seemed to be some favorites that got first string whereas players like my son who had the numbers didn't play as much. We've talked about it and one thing he learned through that last couple years was perseverance. Things don't always click right away. Sometimes you do your best and do well and there's no reward. But there's always the reward you take with you, what you earn. No one can take that away from you.

Aw, exceeda, it's tough being a parent sometimes. You love your son, he's a good'un and you know how cool he really is. If you're like me, you're protective and supportive of your children. Ya mess with them, ya mess with ME. And that's the way it should be. I'm the Dad. They have to learn to live for themselves. He's already starting. Group sports are ( ... can be... ) a great way to learn. If he was late cause he fooled around in the locker room, after all that effort on your husband's and your part, hey, he was late. It's not that he's a bad kid, ungrateful or should be taken out and used for a hocky puck. Sounds to me like the coach kept it in the right perspective, kept it "real". No doubt he knows what your son offers the team - they need him. Sometimes kids have to learn - all that hustle you do for them they have to learn to do for themselves. You're being great parents, you've learned those lessons. He's learning them now too. I'd let it lay and remind him - get outta that locker room and on the field! :) With all the love you've got and it sounds like there's plenty of that to go around. I love to hear that all of us parents do things like this with and for their kids. It's the way it ought to be. You and Dad - have a big wet kiss, on me. (not literally).

Mssr. Lingo, I'd recommend these guys for some modern blues background - Muddy Waters - anything by Mr. Muddy. He's all about the Chicago sound. Knowing the name ain't playing in the game, a person's got to do the time and listen to this music. Waters and the Chicago musicians did a lot towards establishing the modern blues rhythm section sound, sort of a collaborative ensemble approach. Jimmy Reed - Chicago sound, "r and b" but really, a blues style all his own. Without Jimmy Reed and Muddy Waters, the Rolling Stones wouldn't have a sound. His was like a really good barbeque sandwich and an ice cold beer - messy, stuffed with beef and sauce and that can be quality rated by the number of stains on your shirt when you're done. His music ranges from sublime simplicity to outright trainwrecks. Not easy to duplicate. Reed wrote his own stuff and co-wrote a lot of it with his wife Mary ("Mama Reed"). Albert Collins - take a right and head to Texas. Slick, had his "cool" sound using a Fender Telecaster. VEry distinctive sound, often copied, not always well. He capoed his guitar and used an open Eminor tuning and got sort a "snappy" sound using his thumb and fingers to pick. Using the capo on the electric made the strings mute a little too. Sort of set the stage for blues-guitar-slingers along with... Buddy Guy - Louisiana. Has that funky southern sound. He's bumping 70 and looks 50, which ain't that old from this seat. :) Hendrix picked up on his style and used it rather well. Plays a black and white polka dot Stratocaster. All the Kings-Albert, Freddy and... B.B. AKA B.B. Blues is really a snapshot of American industrialization and the population growth out of the south to the east, north and west.These guys are all out of the second generation of blues players, who learned listening to the earlier acoustic guys. Radio and then TV brought it all out to the masses. The trick is to listen to it, and let it settle in. The playing these guys do and did isn't always that "advanced" once a guitarist has learned a few scales. But there's qualities in the playing, subtleties, signature sounds and little things here and there that make them distinctinve and that's what a lot of guitaritsts lack and/or need to pursue - a "sound" rather than more notes. They play with authority, ownership. If a player just grabs the notes they don't get the nuances of how they're played. Some of the technique was hard earned for these guys, as it can be for any musician and they play with the authority of someone who's earned the right to play it. I think that's what makes a guitarist listenable. It may sound like others but it's that personal stamp that come with time that makes it new. Sack time!

Hey there I Love Bagpipes! Welcome. Living Rhythms Drumming Choir, sounds cool! Where are they at? Ring Starr and the Roundheads - I had to look them up. The Roundheads - Joe Walsh, Mark Hudson, Gary Burr, Steve Dudas, Jack Blades, Jim Cox, Simon Kirke, and Scott Gordon. Not a bad band! PBS puts on some great shows. Seen Bruce Springsteen in the last week. Always check in on Austin City Limits when I'm in. There's a show called "Great Performances" think it is. Great stuff. Welcome!

Yup - hey, I am a master of baiting, I know that cuz I love to fish!! You've got a shredder in the fam! I'd be happy to - I'm always looking for/at guitars, if not fondling one at any given time. I practice 20 minutes a day following a practice regimen of material I'm going through, and usually play another half hour or more just doin' stuff. I'm not a shredder though, and there's some techniques there that I know and use but others I don't. But I would love to get with him, email, internet whatever works. It's what I love. GUITAR! But if he's going to ride the dragonfly as I call it, he's going to need wind and he'll want to get specific with the metal speederster stuff. Frank Gambale is a Reigning Master of that stuff, and I think he has videos and or DVD's. Seeing the techniques really helps. I've downloaded some of his lessons and the guy's scarey. He's like - here's the lesson slow....now a little faster.....now up to speed......and that's always a kick to hear. I'll be online later at home, maybe he can check in here and email me - go to the ruzic music site - this is a work in progress but I think I vacuumed and took out the trash this week so it should be presentable. and there's some awesome sites he can check out - http://truefire.com/index2.html - Truefire has a lot of great metal lessons, some free or really cheap per download, like 25, 50 cents, that kind of thing. They're short, with audio and a downloadable print. It's really cool, I"ve downloaded stuff from there. Andy Ellis has a lot of good lessons on there, as well as many many guitarists of all style, including your sons. All he has to do is register and start checking it out. He can review most of the material too, which is what I do, just listen to lots of short clips for free. My son plays some of that stuff and he can wear a pick down - and I mean an extra-heavy basss pick - to 3/4 size in a week or two. I crack up. These kids, by crackie!

.....a "Protected Environment" for Palmetto bugs.

Eddie Van Halen? I've always liked his playing. There's a lot of humor in it in addition to speed-for-days, technique-a-go-go, style-cha-cha to bust the band. He made his own style and made it stick. I always got a kick out of the fact that he made his own guitars too there for awhile. I read an interview once where he described how he did the paint jobs on them, it was Rustoleum right out of the spray can, or a similar brand. Ya gotta love that. A lot of metal guitarists have a terrible, thin sound that's real mid-rangy and shrill. I don't know why, it's like the metal version of the tone Jerry Garcia had, which you have to spend 10,000 dollars and lots of Dead-Head development hours to get. (sorry Garcia fans, I ain't one). But EVH's tone had a name - the "brown sound". Very thick and manageable. He's got style and chops - he's the Chops-Meister. He drank heavily for many years, not exactly a secret. That probably accounts for the smile he always had. But he has always been seriously committed to his playing and that counts for a lot too. Eventually the body gives out or just gives in. Better to give out, if you can stop and salvage what's left and rebuild. I've read he's had health problems, cancer. I would hope he'd get healthy and keep playing. It's definitely what he loves to do.

I see. Do the crime, ya gotta do the time. Well, class is in session, excornholio! Pull up a chair and stop playing with that...put that down! Now! Stop it!!! Okay, fine, 20 minutes after school, write 100 times "Speak No Evil" on the blackboard.....hey-that isn't funny!!!! "Speak No Socks!!!????" You just bought yourself some hard time missie!!! :P I was just curious. All I saw was "doo wap", moderators, and something about deleted posts. Right there, my mind wandered and before I committed the journey to post, I figured I better check. Just remember - "reproof" is a chance to "re-prove" yourself. It's only a negative in your mind. Hey! I just learned something new!!! I put in two many emoticons and got this message- THE FOLLOWING ERROR(S) WERE FOUND You have posted a message with more emoticons that this board allows. Please reduce the number of emoticons you've added to the message Cool. I had every emoticon after every word, and it tweezed out. Anyway, ;) Still too many....okay, deleting....FINALLY! Balance, sensei. Balance. My yings are yanging. Okay, just one more....let's see if..... :blink:

Dang! Where's a horn of plenty when you need one!

"foolass"? excomadrie? Well, how's about that? Oh, you and your potty mouth. Is that the problem? What's going on? Now I'm curious. Didn't you know Chris Geer was a marriage counsellor of great depth and ability? Qualified to tell people what to do and how to do it, day or night?

Thanks topoftheworld! "Both Bullinger and Dr. Weirwille in working the scriptures and teaching them pointed out to us that turning from Paul was preceeded by turning from truth. (Reads II Corth 11:3.) Our loss of the centrality and authority of God's Word, which of necessity preceeded the turning from our Father in the Word, had to have followed the same steps that Dr. Weirwille taught us in the foundational class regarding Eve and the serpent. I would like to point out to you in reading this verse some significant points: he will go to any length to accomplish what God's Word is pointing out." 2 Cor. 11:3 - But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. He's saying if anyone turns, or has turned away from VPW and/or the ministry of the Way, it's been preceded by a rejection of "the Word". This is classic misdirection, corny magic. It was used constantly in the Way and is stupid. Take a part of the bible and use it to say "this situation here that we're dealing with is the same as that one...What's it's saying applies directly to us now and it's the same thing". It leap frogs over a simple question - "who says?". And the numb-brained answer is "God does, it says it right here in the Word". It's like dealing with babies. Geer says headquarters is carnal, not spiritual. But offers no specific direction as to what that means. He says people are harboring division. Duh. His answer is to "not do that". If there was intelligence behind this I'd say he's speaking from an "ivory tower" but that's being generous. He just didn't have a clue that one of the major things causing fear in people was the lack of communication and open sharing. This was hardly a step in that direction. The clock was ticking in people's lives and he offers a view that amounts to "what do you have to do with your that would be any better?" Lots of things. This exemplifies to me why it was time to move on and grow. Cut your losses, be thankful for the gains and just get away from these guys. As long as you remain in a position where they have some kind of authority they can exercise over you they won't really use it to your benefit.

Was tic in the Corps? K-9 Korps?

Good is where you find it.........(good things can come in unexpected ways) Fathers be good to your daughters Daughters will love like you do Girls become lovers who turn into mothers So mothers be good to your daughters too.........(John Mayer) My wife gave me a card the day we were married, with a short poem, that I've since had framed. The poem goes: It was so very long ago That we first met and said hello. Little did I know that day That you would steal my heart away... To which I've added the lines: I'm so glad it was because you've always taken such good care of it.

Choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosiing...{your answer goes here} I've done it, I'm sure everyone has. Sometimes we have to make the best of a situation as it is. But choosing between one preacher-strutter and another - I don't have to do that. I've been young and am gettin' pret' near old but never have I seen a preacher who, when they get hot for the Lord, didn't do one HECK of a strut across their stage. They get that little stompin' poundin' thing going, do the "don't tell ME! GLORY!" rhetoric. VPW had his "that's RIGHT baby!"-nose-wiping thing. They all do it. I think it comes with the Preacher License to Preach, 3 e-z lessons in Biblical Body Language. But I digress. As to the topic of Mastering, yes, you do. No, don't argue. You do. You've all probably thrown your PFAL materials away. Good for you then that I have a supply of rewritten books available that contain what the original books really meant, at no cost and absolutely free to the first 300 souls who send me a request via emal to whyamisonice@masteringmadeeasy.com. Just include the names of 100 of your closest friends that you think would be interested in my latest book "Making Money Mastering Techniques and Secrets" and it will be sent right away. Include 59.95 for handling and this once in a lifetime offer can be yours, for free. Start mastering today! BUT WAIT!!!! That's not all....!!! Ever feel like nobody's listening to you, no matter how many times you say the same thing over and over again. Feel unappreciated? Well, don't wait one more minute! Included with the first 100 orders will be socks' book "Feel-Felt-Found...Selling Secrets of the Pharoahs"....!!! Don't delay - you'll be glad you didn't. The delay thing!!!

exmeenster, I am called. No doubt about that. You should hear some of the things I'm called! But good? Hmmm...well, it's not best. You're welcome. You are a Christian.

Exskeeter, your yuks maximus are an easy read. Post more! Let's get yukalicious! But I digress. Belle, use that 15% at Heidi's where you can apply yourself with vigor to Mastering .... ..oh, wrong thread! Sorry! Better leave!