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Ah, now we're gettin' it. Some Tommy Tucker, High Heeled Sneakers First song I learned all the guitar parts on. I was only about 11 or so, had barely a feel for how the blues progression worked, but managed to figure it out. I was all over the neck, didn't know the C positions at the time. Cool tune.

Okay Garth. You know I love ya, not that there's much currency in that, but with a litle change we can get a couple packs of Beebo's Nutty Bumpers and get sugared up! Your other points, I can't really comment on, so I'm trying to dazzle with dishpit. I'm not a creationist if that means that the earth is only a few thousand years old, period. I don't think that's what the bible really says, but frankly I don't think the bible really addresses topics like that. If it did, it should have an index and at least a table of contents. It doesn't. Seriously, I think my main challenge over the years has been coming to an understanding on what it does speak to and where it's true integrity lies. At the same time, I have a problem with a - call it, a non-intelligent design view of the universe. To me, there does seem to be design, although the intelligence of it doesn't completely compute to me in everything. I sense a purpose I don't completely understand. One of the pitfalls I think is to take the world as we see it and say "it doesn't make sense. Why is it like this? It could be much better if it was like THIS. Since it isn't like that, I can't believe there's a God or any kind of higher presence involved because it doesn't make sense to me that there's so many inconsistencies". You may not view it that way, but many do. What I think that does is create it's own gods. Gods who should do things the way we want them, the way we think would work best. When those self-created Higher Powers don't behave as projected, they're denied. If the god of my making can't do a better job than this, it must not exist. It's an odd way to look at life, to me. I've often wondered why the physical world seems to move the way it does. Granted, there's some serious zig-zags but our world seems to be waddling down a path that's too familiar to be completely spontaneous, IMO. F'instance movement. Things exist, and things that have life tend to have movement. Not always, but a lot of living things have self-generated movement. That movement's all the same kind - living things crawl, walk, step, swim, paddle, push, drag, float, pull, ooze, twist, sway. Movement and transportation is - it seems to be the same kind of thing regardless of the species. I wonder sometimes why alternate forms of transportation haven't evolved. I can imagine much more efficient means of moving from point A to point B but have never seen them or read about them. In the vast world of endless universal possiblities, there seems to have been only one that we see or have ever seen. There could possibly be a design, direction, purpose behind that. ???

Garth, I've got a couple things to contribute, just to show my heart's right. Soon as I get krysilis's Ptery-dactol under control. ( ....the droppings....the droppings....!) Perhaps a restating of part of the section of PFAL under scrutiny (....or...is it?) is in order. Herewith, to wit - Genesis 1:11 And God said, let the earth bring forth grass, the earth yielding seed and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. Verse 11 divulges many interesting truths. First, note that it says all are to bring forth after their kind. "Kind" is the world genos in the Septuagint, transliterated into English as "genus". This means that when a cow is bred to a bull, a calf will be the results, not a lamb. A dog and a cow cannot breed and get a cow-dog, nor will a cat and a dog produce a catty-dog or a doggy-cat. Why? Because everything comes after it's kind, after it's genus. There can be evolution or change within a genus but not between genera. Variety occurs within a genus. For example, there are big cows and small cows, black red and white cows;variety has occured within the bovine genus, but this genus has not crossed with another genus, or Genesis 1:11 would not be true. Whew. Okay. I wanted to copy/paste Mendel's 1st and 2nd Laws, but it's too much work. Old guy here, and I'm not a scientist or biologist. I'm a sockist, and I'm socked out. Catty-dogs aside, I would state this, just so I make a material contribution here and at least act like I'm fighting my weight: I see a simple logic in "everything after it's own kind". Day after day, cats have cats. Cows have cows. Every now and than a human has a cow over something, but they get over it. For the most part though, pretty much all the time, things follow that path. I also see a simple possibility in that - and this is pretty soft so feel free to beat it to a pulp - namely that anything that could happen, will or might happen, anytime. (Italics add weight, don't you think?) I have no problem and wouldn't dash my bible to the ground in disgust if a Brazilan cat had puppies. Or something that vaguely resembled a barker. I'd feel kinda bad for the little guys if they were unsuited for real-life survival but if they were raised as cats, what's that really mean? Cats sleep 80% of their lives. It's not a difficult lifestyle, y'know? Nor would I get too distraught if guys in lab coats tweeze up a new blend of mouse. My only real concern would be - why mice? We've got enough mice. Mice up the ying yang. Maybe Bill Gates and some Korean geneticist will partner up to produce a race of humans with PC chips for brains that will work perfectly and with no sleep, except that every once in awhile they'll start stuttering uncontrollably and you'll have to bang them on the head and poke their ribs in sequential order to get them to stop. It could happen, y'know? Within the range of possiblities in the universe, if there's the slightest possibility that something could happen, it probably has or will. And that instance could have a big effect on other things, everything. Or nothing maybe. "after it's own kind" indicates a direction, to me, a path of natural order. Things happen outside the natural order sometimes. Look at us. Are we normal? Anyway, PFAL itself presents this in the context of 'how the Word interprets itself". VPW wasn't the first or the last person to teach that the bible has an organic structure that directs how it can be understood or that it offers insight into life. That's a gimme for most religions that use it. (I don't know all the ones that do, so that's a guess) He didn't suggest that the earth was just a few thousand years old, either. This stuff falls into the sections that taught God reformed the present day earth into what we have today after an initial effort was all but destroyed. How all of that actually happened - no idea. Some ideas, but nothing I'd bank my faith in God on. That actually plays in a different sandbox. But - maybe we're all the messed up offspring of the platypus. That would sort of boggle the mind.

IMO, it's all it warrants Garth. It's lame - this double-back technique you've used. The topic started out with the news story and your statement that it really turns PFAL and the Mendel's Law/Doggie-Cat part on it's head. You used a news story that's obviously undocumented and sounds like for sure there's a piece of toast somewhere in the story that's going to look like the Virgin Mary. You jumped to your conclusion knowing that it doesn't disprove Mendel's Law or anything close to that part in PFAL. You know that. Before any effort's expended on what it does/doesn't mean, it needs to 1) be determined if it's even true and 2) if it's true what it means, if anything. The incident in and of itself doesn't mean that the world needs to retool our understanding genetics. It might just mean that dog needs to learn that "no" means "NO". Come on. It happened in Brazil. Can you say "coffee-buzz"? If you wanted to make this your foundational proof for whatever it is you're proposing, you did so for the sole purpose of being able to say "if this is stupid, so is Creationist 'science - So there!". IMO, it's just lame and doesn't do you justice. M.O. Now, sorry, I gotta go. There's a dinosaur in the backyard doin' his business and I HATE that.

This story had caused me to look at my pets in a new light. At this time we have 1 cat, and 7 tropical fish. There's also at least 1 neighborhood rabbit, big gray guy. Or girl, haven't checked. Cat's female. And the fish, gender's unclear, although I'd assume the ones that leave the filter screen up, those are the guys. So now, I'm watching everybody close. REAL close.

Sorry Garth. You know I love ya man. You're the Prophet, The The Man. Bait. Switch. This is vaguely like the guy who wants you to pull his finger so he can fart, big joke, right? The first 100 times but at this point, it's kinda stale. The joke, never mind the gas. "Come on, pull my finger. Pull my finger! Come aaaaawwwwwnnnnn.....pull my FINGer! Pull it! Pull my finGER! Do it! Do itdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoit!!! "No thanks". "Baby! You won't pull my finger! Scaredy cat! S-KARE-DEE CAT! Pull it!!! Pleeeeeezzzzzzzz, pull it pull it pull it pull it pull it - pull my FFFFFINNNNNNGERRRRR! Pull - my ...." "Sigh, okay. If I do then will you...." "A HA HA HA HAHAAAAHAHAHA!!!! SEE? You pulled my finger and I farted!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You pulled my fing-er! You pulled my fin-ger!!! HAHAHAHA!!!" "Sigh"

Crabs. Season just opened! Salmon. Local salmon right off the boat - great. Gilroy garlic - really tasty.

Spike! Buy it by the box and it goes in a shaker. Good stuff, as stated. Kosher salt! Use it for brining chicken, and of course, on food, anything. A dash of it with some lemon on salmon is tasty. Garlic. Gilroy is a few hours south of us, grows lots of great garlic. Use a fair amount of garlic around here. I always have at least two bottles of virgin olive oil going - straight, and one with a few cracked garlic cloves in it to add flavor. Good for quickie sautee's. Also like to mince several cloves, mix in butter or a substitute, to use on bread. Pepperocini's - I don't like hot spicy foods, but use these mildly warm little guys like a condiment. Chopped and diced finely, added to the top of anything from salads, eggs, sandwiches, etc.

Aw c'mon Garth. There's gotta be better proof than this, I can't get my dander wrapped around this one, sorry. Granted those look like some extremely cute puppies, cute enough to be kittens. But a story of a woman in Brazil finding some doggies with her cat in a field - are you serious? You're not serious, right? This is a joke. File it next to the "Bowl of Chili Gets the Finger" story, the woman that said she found a finger in her food at a fast food resaurant. Remember that? These people may be well intentioned buuuuuut... If this turned out to be true, I doubt anyone's going to be running out first thing and yelling "SEE? PFAL was WRONG!" I'd be more concerned about the Pet Shop industry. Any puppy I buy is gonna have to have some serious paperwork. SERious paperwork.

Vince Gill, Chatty, any tunes in particular you're diggin'? I love his playing on "Worlds Apart", and "Whenever You Come Around" is a killah. "Pretty Little Adriana" - some very tasty playing and really a nice sound. An artist that goes way back that Gill reminds me of is Jesse Colin Young, of the Youngbloods. We've seen him many times, he still performs and is around Nothern California, lives out by Point Reyes. He used to split his time between there and Hawaii. His voice has a really sweet sound, like Gill's. Young had a unique country-folk-rock sound when he went solo - "Love On the Wing" is really worth a listen. If I can find it I'll post it up online. I played with him on a bill with the Youngbloods and the band I was in at the time named "Cosby". :) He was a pretty nice guy and sounded as good live, backstage, in the parking lot, as he did on record. Just a truly natural talent.

Boy, we're covering some ground here today! On the PPL front, Dean played some with Craig Fuller in the early days, probably around late 60', don't think it was in PPL itself though. Dean was and is a fine guitarist, does great work on the acoustic. Played a Les Paul Jr. when I first met him, had a real nice style. I had my Les Paul gold top at the time. He had a little bit of Steven Stills and Dave Mason mixed together with a country feel, is how I'd describe it. He also played a Gibson acoustic flat top, don't remember the model but he had it for years. Chatty, I'm glad you caught that song and liked it! I've about 3 versions into it at this point. It's taking shape slowly. I've got a rhythm version of it that I'm using in lessons too, so that's interesting to hear other people learning that song for the first time. It's instantly recognizable and has instant vibe, even for people who weren't born then! :)

dMiller, you've got your weekend stacked! Good luck. I've often wondered about instruments in shops like that. I remember many years ago, pawning an Ampex sound on sound deck I had, and an old acoustic guitar. Leaving them there that day was a mixture of happy and sad. Happy that I was getting some quick cash for a couple things I didn't need at the time, sad because I was leaving them there and knew I wouldn't be back for them and I would have just as soon kept them, they had a lot of memories. Theres' got to be some interesting stories out there in shops. polar bear, those AKG's are good mic's, yup. Congratulations! New gear, always a good thing. :) What's your studio set up like?

Yeah, violence over a game system seems a little overkill, to say the least. My son and I were talking about it this morning, he's finishing a degree in digital animation arts next year, and he was giving me the rundown on PS3 - according to him there are quite a few features that make it superior. Their site gives more information for anyone else not familiar with it. He had a friend offered a similar price on the way out of the store Friday. Daughter says they're going for 2500 on eBay now. Probably will go higher. And they run about 500.00 bucks off the shelf. Cu-razee!

Depends dmiller - Fender has more models now than Revell. Might be a good buy. Can you get anymore information?

Yeah, that's nice stuff A la. Now, Tom, that Air Guitar dealie is ... not sure what that is. What is that? Totally cool, Chas! We got a mascot.

Love that tune, and Dan Ross. I really like the opening figure. That kind of sound is cool. Thanks! He does some nice harmonics about midway through. SuWEEt! Cool Atkins/Kotke/Watson tune too. I'm off to check out Cockburn. Y'know I did some checking around on how the Youtube videos are set up and there's a program that will allow you to download the Flash videos. You can run them and then save them with a link that it creates. I've tried it and it works well. You end up with a file that you rename, to whatever you want .flv, with the .flv at the end. It's saved on your computer. You can then open that file and view it in their software. It's pretty cool. Check it out here.

I know this discussion isn't solely dealing with homosexuality but I have to say - the only thing I don't dig about male homosexuality is - there's no chicks. Thanks for that video dmiller! I rest my case. Reggie's - well, anyone who finds him attractive has to be a woman who still has their little torn up stuffed bear from when they were 5, the one with the arm torn open, distended tummy from too many pillow fights and one eye going up and one down and thinks it's just the cutest thing in the whole wide world. If you're a guy and you get that giggidy feeliing from Dwight - sorry, no deal. We need to go to a pro-football game and see some real hiney-slapping. Those boys know tush. I don't think religion's going to get banned as long as Elton's voice is heard on the matter. Sorry, he's just too weird for me. Weird as Benny Hinn. Almost as weird as Pat Robertson. Maybe they can all get together and start a religion. Benny can 'heal' Elton, who will then marry Liza Minelli who will drive him gay again after two years and he'll split off to form a splinter group named "The Hair Club for Manly Men" and the slogan will be "I'm not just the president of the Club, I'm your Daddy!" Robertson will get a revelation that Judas was really gay, and Judas really drowned in a Bathhouse and push through legislation banning all Spa's in the U.S. Between them they'll make enough money to buy the Middle East and that'll be that.

Well, Garth, ears being what they are I guess this tells me one man's gold is another man's god. Y'know? EJ's heading for retirment. With all the music out today, it's hard to even stay current but there's some serious music being made and it's worth hearing. Enjoying Tiny Dancer doesn't have to mean you're stuck in a Time Warp, it could just mean it was a good song then, and it's still a good song now. Y'know? Popular music is quantifiable in certain ways. Popularity isn't hmmmm as easily, as what you like someone else might not, for no other reason necessary than they don't and you do. But there's a case to be made for good songwriting, and EJ's gotten in the middle of quite a few over the years. Lyrics are often kinda gobbeldy and the melodies usually server the musical style rather than the music, but that's pop music. But back to his opinions, he's got 'em. No boudadoubt it. Hmm. Hmm. Oh yeah. I like "reasonably organized" religion, and totally dig Chaos Christianity specifically. Kind-of organized, but not neurotic and won't get suicidal if the pictures on the wall are a little crooked. For awhile.

Tiny Dancer - one of the classic tunes of an era Garth. "Almost Famous" uses it in the bus sequence to great effect. Sweet tune. For the record oh yeah, oh yeah that's what's so good about GS - not only do we get definitive information and factoids, yes factoids, we get music puns! Real, actual music puns. Lyrics to the verse in question read: Jesus freaks out in the street Handing tickets out for God Turning back she just laughs The boulevard is not that bad And see, that's the whole deal, the whole thingie here. For certain things, Reggie is going to be the Man. In his arena of expertise, he's got deep chops. Never mind that you have to be British to rhyme god with bad.....(think "Oh, he was the naughtiest boy, that one. He could be so bawd") But all this time, I thought he was singing - "handing tickets out for Ga-ah-wad", that being an ancient icon of Aztec origin. I've put a lot of energy and effort into that particular deity. Now I feel so - so, robbed. Dirty, almost. Where's People magazine when I need it!

EJ is no slouch on the piano and he's got that English version of American blues voice down. An interesting note on Reggie: The son of a former Royal Air Force trumpeter, Elton John was born Reginald Kenneth Dwight in 1947. Dwight began playing piano at the age of four, and when he was 11, he won a scholarship to the Royal Academy of Music. After studying for six years, he left school with the intention of breaking into the music business. So he's a talented high school dropout who done good. But I kind of agree with you George, he's become something of a hack. Famous, well-paid, connected and a kind of musical environmentalist the way he recycles his patented sound. "Personality" probably describes him best, entertainer. Of global interest to the People magazine subscribers who need a Cult-fix every month. (what's my Elton doing now?) Is he refrencing the war in Irag, 9/11, the general opinion of a lot of religions that homosexuality is wrong? All of the above? Is it the accumulated wisdom of his life that leads him to this opinion? He's not alone it seems. Who cares what Elton John thinks? I like a lot of his tunes but he's hard to endure as a performer. Sort of a strange combination of Barry Manilow and Liberace. I'd vote to outlaw professional use by any entertainer of glasses larger than 6 inches per lens. Max.

Just an assortment of spaced Smileys, dmiller. Smileys, spaced out. Or well spaced. Or sumpin. waysider did one ----- :) ----- and I realized by making them white you could make 'em look like they were hanging out in space, all over. So props to waysider, what is for me new Smiley territory. Going where no Smiley has gone before - to Space! And Beyond! But I have noticed the phenomena of which you speak - there's a limit to how many you can put up. That's probably why you got the message. Alhtough there may be a way to push the Smiley envelope and go postal with them, using dashes and line spacing. Dunno. But we want Happy Posters and Smileys are high value additions to any thread! There's something about that basic little guy :) that's universal yet esoteric in presence. It says it all, by saying nothing. :)

As far as Craig and the Way goes, they didn't invent the timecard. :) And there is such a thing as being "late for work" when there's no reason for it other than - you're late. If other people depend on someone being on time, that won't work very well for very long. But a lot of jobs and work environments don't live and die by the clock. There's accountability to the work that needs to be completed and the salary being paid, but businesses find that in today's world if you can't flex time a little to accomodate good employees you're probably going to have unhappy employees. Work and life can conflict. Instead of allowing them to build frustration with each other it's better to try and do what makes good sense for everyone, within the constraints of what has to get done for business to succeed, the state laws, etc. etc. Harping about 5 or 10 minutes as being "dishonest" assumes the worst of the person, that they aren't going to make the time up, or do the job they're supposed to and be honorable employees. That gets old quick. I'm sort of old-school. If the start time is 8, you be there at 8, coffee in hand and ready to go. There's really no "getting away with it". An honest person does what needs to be done and if they adjust their time here, they adjust it there. If you're getting paid for a job completed, you complete it. If X amount of hours is part of that, you put those hours in somewhere. But yeah, somehow I'm sure Mr. Craig told himself he worked so hard all the time anyway his own "adjustments" weren't the same as for the Regular Joe. Just a guess, but it's S.O.P. for the "spiritually mature", a phrase I can barely type with a straight face.

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Of possible interest, Chas - a unique duo named Toastmachine Bass player and drummer, just the two. My kids saw them locally about 6 years ago, and really liked them. I've got a CD of their early stuff around somewhere that they bought. Cool concept.