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WOW That is too cool! Congrats!

;) Happy Birthday!!!!!! Hugs to you! :)

If I may offer a suggestion... My parents lost everything last year in Florida being hit by Charlie then 3 other storms to finish them off. My stepmom cries everyday and has gone down to 70 pounds and her health is in question, my father "chokes up" all the time and he is one of those manly men from WW II era... They went to the vet this week as their dog is getting lathargic. The vet found nothing wrong and thinks that Bridgett may be "home sick". (So even the dog is heart broken) If any kind of grief counseling is offered you may want to try it. I am trying to find help for my parents and do not know what is currently available. I guess we learn with each storm how badly people are impacted. It was horrible that the victims in New Orleans were without help so long... But I think some good things are happening to help them now. My parents were helped by the Red Cross and church groups who brought meals and ice around but there are still people living with blue plastic tarps in Florida. What I am trying to say is after "The shock" you kinda thaw and reality hits and it is a very hard reality. So, I thank God you are safe and well. but if they have any group talks or anything where you can cry and grieve, you may consider trying it.

likeaeagle I do not believe those men exist except in romance novels. :o--> I think that sexy looks across a room might be nice... But do not serve a purpose other than to present an attraction. :)--> And make you feel like maybe you still have it. The "all man" stero type to me is a dream... As is the woman who will never have cellulite, laugh at all his jokes, enjoys oral sex, keeps a perfect house, never passes gas and whose breath is minty fresh upon awakening. I think, a real man is one who is not afraid to show emotion. I think the truth is you might get a friend who will be in your corner, love you even when your breath rivals a moose and your hips bounce on the door frame. A man who will open the car door for you but then miss the hamper, and think nothing of cleaning his toe nails with the end of a hanger. But hey,that's just how I see it.

Here is the thing, although I know what I know now, that is exactly how I felt at the time. It was the closer look that exposed the monsters in the man to me. Taking the class -- well at the time, it was the best thing ever. I took it in 1972. What the "class" did for me and what the "man" did to me were very different. But then I contend that the class was a good thing put together by BG Leonard, then hijacked by VP, he could not improve on the class in his life because it wasn't "his life." To me it was a way for him to start a ministry on another man's work... Be hailed as king, visited by poor girls he tried to convert into chamber maids, .... blaa blaa blaa. And yes, I knew him personally. I think I had to, in order to break the spell, or I might still be a lemming.

Poked my head in to wish you well, you are wonderful people. God Bless you both.

I am sorry to hear this. I always liked her.

Zixar I am so proud of you! I am also very happy for you and Amanda as well. I will go back up and vote for you. Keep us posted Dot

Belle - thanks, they want a single home. Rascal - They are looking at a community in Knoxville TNN and in neighborhoods in Ft. Olgelthorpe Georgia -- but in the latter their are no 55+ communities. Do you have regular older neighborhoods? They do not want a neighborhood with young families. Where are the FL refugees going? Single homes? The apt. choice is not something they are interested in.

man, Kasem sure did curse a lot on the snip. I would hate to work for him.

Thanks guys. They are looking for a mild winter. So, Minn is out. Funny, but we are checking out Chatanooga. Rascal pi me with the name of the community if you like, or put it here, pls. Murphy is right across from Blairsville Georgia and it is a lazy mountain area. But you'd be in a great area then find a bunch of loud motorcycles and beer parties --- these are my PARENTS and I am old now. They would have a cow. I was speaking of Franklin TNN but I will check into the one in NC. They want single homes in a neighborhood that are 55 + no kids -- like the communities that were destroyed in punta Gorda Florida. I cannot begin to calculate the loss. Those that pray please pray they find an area they can be happy in. Thank you.

Thanks, they are seeking a community perhaps with a place to store the RV for their use in the winter. Some communities have places for RV owners like that. I hope they know something.

My parents lost their home in a hurricane and have been roaming looking for a place to settle in their motorcoach. They want a retirement community 55 + Single home, not a cluster nor a duplex, not an apartment nothing like that. A retirement community. Are these towns kind? Safe? Would you put your parents there? Anyone know anything? Does it snow? How cold is it? Is it a small area? Not too big or too small? Any help is appreciated, thank you.

I am sorry. That rieki nurse shoule be b-tch slapped. I did not know of this until I got an email earlier, I am very sorry. I do not think anything helps, but I send this your way. Poem: Do you need me? I am there. You cannot see Me, yet I am the light you see by. You cannot hear Me, yet I speak through your voice. You cannot feel Me, yet I am the power at work in your hands. I am at work, though you do not understand My ways. I am not strange visions. I am not mysteries. Only in absolute stillness, beyond self, can you know Me as I am, and then but as a feeling and a faith. Yet I am there. Yet I hear. Yet I answer. When you need Me, I am there. Even if you deny Me, I am there. Even when you feel most alone, I am there. Even in your fears, I am there. Even in your pain, I am there. Though you fail to find Me, I do not fail you. Though your faith in Me is unsure, my faith in you never wavers, Because I know you, because I love you. Beloved, I am there. James Dillet Freeman (born 1912)

I stand corrected. Thank you. The news lady did make it into a cover-up but I still think it is the way I communicated it. I guess I did a bad job. I do not see on that button that there is Robert Kennedy’s article about the cover-ups etc. Do you see it? I see the subject being brought to light then I see it being debunked. I stand corrected. I do not see anything about the meeting and nobody could make copies etc. which does lend itself to being a cover-up. They wanted to discuss it and then be able to deny they discussed it in my opinion. Robert K said on his interview that he could not get anyone to publish his findings. He said that these people brought this problem to him and he did research himself and found what they were saying to be true then wrote this article. At which point he could not get it published. I knew there were others speaking of the vaccines, there is also much talk about the hepatitis B shot which has cause all kinds of problems. But it seems in the whole scope of things he would be accurate to say that this was not being brought to any great light, but more of an ignored rumble. Who’d of thought Robert Kennedy would have trouble lending his name to the controversial topic. And that nobody would publish him? I guess they did not want a NAME attached to it; somehow Kennedy might lend validation where before they were just a bunch of people saying something that was being ignored. Seems like when no big name was attached to it, it did not make the news. Maybe you are more up on these things then I am. I have to go to meetings all the time on findings like this and health food, etc. But the vaccination thing is really never pulled apart in detail But the things you have added more info so thanks for bringing it up.

This was on the news, Robert Kennedy Jr wrote about the effects of vaccinations and the rise of Autism and ADD in kids. He could not get anyone to publish the article. It was finally published at this site. I could not get into the rest of it to read or I'd give you a summary. This is horrible! (This does not belong in the political area even though written by Kennedy -- it is an open discussion on cover-up, public health, lies and sick kids, thank you) A Salon/Rolling Stone joint investigation - - - - - - - - - - - - http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/06/...l/index_np.html Deadly immunity When a study revealed that mercury in childhood vaccines may have caused autism in thousands of kids, the government rushed to conceal the data -- and to prevent parents from suing drug companies for their role in the epidemic. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Robert F. Kennedy Jr. June 16, 2005 | In June 2000, a group of top government scientists and health officials gathered for a meeting at the isolated Simpsonwood conference center in Norcross, Ga. Convened by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the meeting was held at this Methodist retreat center, nestled in wooded farmland next to the Chattahoochee River, to ensure complete secrecy. The agency had issued no public announcement of the session -- only private invitations to fifty-two attendees. There were high-level officials from the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration, the top vaccine specialist from the World Health Organization in Geneva and representatives of every major vaccine manufacturer, including GlaxoSmithKline, Merck, Wyeth and Aventis Pasteur. All of the scientific data under discussion, CDC officials repeatedly reminded the participants, was strictly "embargoed." There would be no making photocopies of documents, no taking papers with them when they left.

Thanks for signing up! Krys it is a real shocker! I got a bunch of Vitamin "C" today and some endangered herbs More information: http://www.conservatives.com/vitamins/e-petition.cfm Euro court to rule on vitamin law Jul 12 2005 Controversial new European laws which would outlaw thousands of vitamin and mineral supplements could be overturned. The rules, due to come into force in August, are designed to tighten controls on the growing market in products sold under the health food heading - natural remedies, vitamin supplements and mineral plant extracts. But British health food industry campaigners say they hope the proposed euro-legislation will be stopped in its tracks with just weeks to spare by a decision due in the European Court of Justice in Luxembourg. The Court's Advocate-General has already decreed in a non-binding opinion that the proposed Food Supplements Directive is invalid because it breaches basic EU principles of "legal protection, legal certainty and sound administration". If the judges agree it will be a major victory for the Alliance For Natural Health (ANH) which, backed by the British Health Food Manufacturers Association (HFMA), and the National Association of Health Stores (NAHS), mounted a legal challenge to save common food supplements and avoid bankruptcy for many suppliers. The Directive was approved by EU governments in 2002, and health food manufactures were given until July 12, 2005 to submit detailed scientific dossiers proving their ingredients were safe. The idea was that, once confirmed as safe, the ingredients and products went on a "positive list" of permitted substances for use in health foods. But supplements failing to qualify by August 1 this year would be banned. The plans caused controversy in Britain from the start, prompting a petition of more than one million signatures, a letter of protest to Prime Minister Tony Blair from more than 300 doctors and scientists, and motions opposing the euro-law from both Houses of Parliament. Last April's opinion from the Advocate-General backed the idea of such legislation, pointing out it would ensure a high level of health and consumer protection - something which required EU-level action and could not be sufficiently guaranteed by individual countries. However, he also said the Directive as it stood should be thrown out because it lacked clearly defined rules and norms for the European Commission to follow when deciding whether a product is to be allowed on the list. If that view is upheld, it means similar rules could still come into force if the legal arrangements were changed to ensure compliance with basic EU legal and administrative principles.

DMiller This says "From plants, to animals, to human genetic material, they are fast becoming monopoly monarchs over all the life kingdoms." read here: http://www.ghorganics.com/SeedIndustryGiants.htm suicide "seeds" were being stopped but now seems to be allowed to continue http://www.twnside.org.sg/title/seeds-cn.htm This reads: Canada endorsing Monsanto 'suicide seeds'Leaked document reveals secret plans: http://www.greenpeace.org/international/news/suicide-seeds Additonally: John Hammell: The US has already signed Mutual Recognition Agreements as part of GATT and NAFTA that prevent a country from refusing to harmonize its domestic laws to an international standard, except on the basis of safety. Now government agencies are pushing to set "upper levels" on supplements. If they prevail, America will forfeit its right to opt out on the basis of safety because our own laws will affirm our acceptance of "safe" limits. The pattern is clear. Furthermore, since the World Trade Organization's Dispute Settlement Body does not allow individual testimony, our government representatives, whom the pharmaceutical interests are working hard to influence, would not plead our case. ...It is clear that we need a groundswell of support for Congressman Ron Paul's American Sovereignty Restoration Act which would protect our domestic laws by pulling us out of the World Health Organization ...This is NOT "fiction" and it IS Codex harmonization in that it is movement in the direction orchestrated by pharmaceutical interests. In fact, IAHF and allied groups have reason to believe that a UN body called ICDRA, the International Council of Drug Regulating Authorities, coordinates the actions of the world's FDA's... http://www.garynull.com/Issues/Codex/CFH.htm

That is the fear. But I think they are already owned by Phillip Morris. So, it could survive and just go way up in price -- or you will need a prescription to buy it. Whatever happens, life as we know it will be changing if the corporations rule "all of it". (They own a lot now) Nature's Way a lovely company with top quality herbs was just sold to *I think* Merck (a pharmaceutical co.) A brief aside- But it is all part of some very insidious things going on for "New world order" In the World organizations it was agreed that no company would be able to “own” any living thing. But then, after oil spill a “company” came up with organisms, which ate the oil and wanted a paten on them. It was declined then granted. Since then companies have been buying the DNA/genetic rights to all kinds of things. One company in (I believe) Canada bought the rights to some “seeds”. I forget which seeds but NOW those seeds – let us say watermelon seeds are corporately owned. They have now been altered to be sterile once you grow your watermelon so you cannot save your seeds and plant them next year. They have genetically altered the “seeds” to be one generation. So, next year, and every year after, you will be dependant to purchase the seeds from that company. And they will grow only ONCE. So, now we cannot grow food without the seeds of the company that owns them, and they are trying to own the DNA of creatures say of all gorillas or German Shepherds, etc. Soon the corporations who have aligned themselves with governments will own all that we can purchase to make us well, to feed us, that we can grow… There is already a chip that can be planted under the skin that elite people have implanted when they go “clubbing” so they do not carry a purse. The chip is scanned through the skin and they can buy their drinks and food etc, by being scanned. Our freedoms are being hooked into the new world order. But back to our vitamins. Write your congressman.

It's back... It was just accepted in Europe and we are a part of the World health organization (WHO) Healthfood stores etc are all on alert as they may be a thing of the past. The average citizen defeated it in the 90's but this has been not as public and just was accepted in Europe -- And is on its way here. http://www.dukeandthedoctor.com/documents/...%20Supplements/ enter your zip code and let congress know you want your freedom to buy vitamins! If you agree... http://capwiz.com/saveoursupplements/mail/...&imageField.y=4

yes, it is effecting New Zealand, England, Canada, Aussie country and others. It is a world movement for corporations to regulate the health food industry. It is a world thing. It blows my mind that the world powers can take away our vitamins. http://sunshinecommunications.ca/Newsdaily...=article&sid=29 Read this http://www.newswithviews.com/guest_opinion/guest60.htm Good to see you! SAVE OUR SUPPLEMENTS Update: http://www.saveoursupplements.com.au/ An attack on the right to choose what you believe is best for your body. A natural-right not, until now, under threat. But be well aware, times have changed, attitudes have changed, government now believes it has the power to override your rights. You may not use health supplements, vitamin and mineral supplements, such as vitamin a, b, c, d, or e or minerals such as iron, zinc or magnesium. You may not find Beroca a benefit. If not then this issue still concerns you, because it is about one of your basic freedoms, - the right to choose. In particular the right to chooses what you believe will benefit your body and sustain your body in the best, most healthy condition that you can. Essential vitamins and minerals for human consumption are about to become difficult, or impossible to package, or purchase over the counter as is your right, - your free choice. There are moves by multinational drug companies to buy up, or destroy small privately owned packers and distributors of essential vitamins and minerals, part of a world wide attempt to control all health supplements and through the control of supplements, control the state of wellness of your body and the health of all people in the world. The best we can expect, if we allow this program become reality, can be seen from the proposals of the Codex Alimentarius Commission (started in 1963, a joint effort between the UN and the WHO). Codex plans to place strict limits on all health supplements, limiting them to strengths well below the normal daily requirement by the human body. (Codex Explained) This means that people requiring large doses of a vitamin or mineral, to treat a particular disease, will need to swallow the whole of the packet to get the amount now available in one or two tablets. (European Directive) Packs of supplements will cost even more than they do today and will only be available from a chemist, on a Doctors prescription. Link This oppressive move, against your best interests of people, is backed by some governments, including the Australian Government. Why? Because the drug manufacturers are spending hundreds of millions of dollars in an effort to bring within their total control all natural health supplements, remedies and medicines. The end result of this drug company project will be that health supplements, that work, will disappear. Why, because drug companies make money from sick people. The incentive therefore is to maintain people in a state of sickness for as long as possible. Difficult to come to grips with? Look at the evidence, then make up your mind? Drug company greed for ever increasing profits and the increasing ability to contribute to government slush-funds is damaged by the use of natural health supplements, because every healthy person is a customer lost to the drug companies. As each day passes evidence comes to light where drug companies are dosing people with drugs that maintain sickness and in many cases, make people sick, thus providing long term future customers and their objective, increased profits, much of which finds its way back to political parties, politicians and regulators, the popular media; and doctors who all seem to be under drug company, profit induced, spells. Doctors, many now practicing through corporations, are also in the disease industry; the more disease the better for business. A bitter pill to swallow, but truth often is. Drug companies also are well down the road towards controlling the world’s food supply with genetically designed seed that only grows after having received a liberal dose of the drug companies chemical fertilizer. Plants then grow producing unnatural food and the plants seeds are infertile, requiring new seeds to be purchased from the drug company every time a new crop is planted. (The Consequences of Cross Pollination) As knowledge about the value of vitamins and minerals in the prevention of disease becomes better and more widely known the drug companies see a massive drop in profits looming, as people become healthier from natural health supporting supplements. Add to this the ever increasing move away from drugs to natural remedies and the drug companies see an end to their “disease industry”. It is clear the drug companies are even less responsible than tobacco companies when telling the “truth” about the products they produce. Link The PAN debacle, where across Australia, perfectly good natural health supplements were recalled and dumped is being replicated around the world, doing massive damage to the natural health supplement industry as the attack was designed to do, (TGA Recall) All in an endeavor to force people to rely on unnatural, in many cases, life destroying drugs. The drug companies have recruited governments to be their willing accomplices in this drug company inspired burn and destroy program. Link This issue is but one of a long list, where government has joined with multi-national corporations to bring about the wishes of the multinationals against the best interests of the population. Link It is clear that company profits have become more important than, not only good health, but the lives of people. It is also clear that where doubt about the effect of a drug or a vaccination exists the government should decidedly err on the side of caution, but this is not the case. Link Governments consistently accept drug companies’ test results and ignore reports contrary to that of the drug companies. http://www.lef.org/featured-articles/consu...lert_051005.htm SAVE OUR SUPPLEMENTS! NO TO CAFTA/FTAA! US Dietary Supplement Laws Threatened By Globalization! Consumer access to dietary supplements in the USA is being threatened by illegal FDA actions at the UN Codex Alimentarius Commission where the FDA has been working hard to create a mindlessly restrictive global trade standard for vitamins and minerals. At the 28th General Session of the UN's Codex Alimentarius Commission between July 4-9th 2005, barring a miracle, a very restrictive global trade standard for vitamins and minerals will be ratified. Codex standards can be imposed on the USA via membership in the WTO and via regional harmonization through an expansion of NAFTA via CAFTA (Central American Free Trade Agreement) and FTAA (Free Trade Area of the Americas). These trade agreements threaten to force the USA into a hemispheric equivalent to the European Union.

For instance: this will be just a memory Aloe vera Astragalus Bilberry Capsicum Cascara sagrada Cat's claw Chamomile Dong Quai Echinacea augustifolia Echinacea purpurea Ephedra (Ma huang) Feverfew Garlic Ginger Ginkgo biloba Ginseng Golden Seal Gotu Kola Hawthorne Kava Kava Licorice Milk Thistle Pau D'arco (Taheebo) Peppermint Psyllium Sarsaparilla Saw palmetto Yohimbe This list is likely to expand over the next two years. Now Codex and the HPB will have their way, and your favorite supplements will be replaced by expensive, patented, over-the-counter or prescription drugs. Just look what has already happened to amino acids like tryptophan. Once available for under $20 for a bottle of 100 tablets of 500 mgs. at your local health food store, the same tablet is now only available by prescription at a cost of over $120 at your pharmacy. On top of that, in order to get a prescription for tryptophan, you will have to convince your doctor to give you one. This is easier said than done simply because most medical doctors have no clue what tryptophan does or believe it to be toxic. Project this shallow thinking on to the herbs listed above and it becomes quite clear that public access to natural remedies will be a thing of the past. Codex -- not Cotex read here: http://www.smart-publications.com/articles/052705codex.php

Sure, in the near future you will need a prescription to get your vitamins. A bottle of zinc (good for colds and good for men's health) now sells for about $4.00. They expect it to go to about $50.00 a bottle. AND you will have to go to the Doctors and ask him to prescribe it for you. Then, suppose you feel a cold coming on? You want to take extra "c" you will only be able to get it at 200mg.I know I take about 3000 mg a day so you can image the cost and the effort in trying to convince a Doctor I need it.Echinacea is an herb that helps the immune system and can be found in teas. Suppose you feel a little icky, a cup of the tea would do the trick -- but now you will not be able to buy it as it will be considered a DRUG.The drug companies will control all of it -- oh yes, lets trust them...If you want children’s vitamins -- it will involve a Doctors visit...You see? Pretty awful, huh?

oenophile - a huge hug to you, I missed you as well. This vitamin stuff is awful. The drug companies will rule the industry...

EU bans sale of vitamins London Evening Standard | July 12, 2005 Controversial new European laws which could outlaw thousands of vitamin and mineral supplements were upheld by European Court judgesy. The European Court of Justice rejected British health food industry claims that the proposed Food Supplements Directive, coming into force on August 1, breaches EU rules. The surprise decision goes against an opinion delivered by the same court's advocate-general in April, advising that the rules should be scrapped because they contravene basic EU principles of "legal protection, legal certainty and sound administration". The judges countered that the proposed arrangements, designed to tighten controls on the growing market in products sold under the health food heading, can go ahead as planned. Health food companies have to submit natural remedies, vitamin supplements and mineral plant extracts - many of them in long-established regular use in a £300 million-a-year market in the UK - for approval and inclusion on a list of recognised food supplements. The judges backed the move saying: "A 'positive list' system is appropriate for securing the free movement of food supplements and ensuring the protection of human health." Look: http://www.etherzone.com/2005/stang030405.shtml http://www.greatestherbsonearth.com/articl...ex_May_2005.htm Yes, this creates problems for Americans as we joined in an agreement to only produce these products according to some kind of world standard.... Stock up...