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yes, for those that thought it was all about believer burgers and retemory cards, they were mistaken. They saw Barbies dream house but did not know what wicked Uncle Ernie was really doing to a lot of the Barbies. IT was the house of horrors.

[delete] Anyway, my heart goes out to all those people who were having breakdowns and suicides. It is horrible. [delete]

Your neighbor George? I am sorry, he sounded like a nice guy, I am sure your son is upset. You know the limb leader I speak of right? The one who spoke of the suicide? IT was the female 3rd corps girl who told me, were you there? First, I thought it was Marsh____. It wasn't praise God. But she went through h-ll with the same Rev. Pimp I did.

He was always telling girls "to stay sweet". He asked me once what I did to stay sweet, I was unclear. Then, he says to me, "do you masterbate? Or what do you do to stay sweet?" I don't recall if I answered I think I was just in shock thinking, "What the f?" He asked my sister the same thing.

That was what he said.

I know, that DAY! He was talking to a group of 9th and 11th corps girls, That one girl shared how she climbed a pole and had an orgasm. [snip] And we could not believe how all the girls were sitting and accepting what he just shared as "okay". [cut]

"I might have too much cynic in me...but I just can't shake the feeling that this is a letter that all "believers" were asked to write to those that "have left the fold." I can just hear it now, "There are some out there who have left that are feeling sorry and alone. The devil is having his say with them because they left the family of God. Write to them and let them know how welcomed they are. Blah blah blah...yadda yadda yadda." It's a way to get more ABS money in the coffers." Doojable, that was my first thought. Not my only one, but the first. Like these 12 step programs have you apologize to people you hurt, perhaps this was an edict at a Sunday Service. I would still write back and use some of the ideas presented here.

Ex It was not a massage - it was more oral than that. WG and Rascal - Rascal I know how you feel, the people that were telling you GOD loved you were now saying things like you dissappointed God -- and why? To cover their own sin. WG- I am not sure about the 7th corps person, it rings a dull bell. But in the 6th (?) corps I know my limb leader came and told us that the "girl got possessed and killed herself" later I heard she drank something with VP and in a fog he "got her" then she was so wigged out about it she began to "talk" and they wanted her to SHUT UP. They kept after her how she had devil spirits and to shut up, the MOG had choosen her she should be happy and shut up. If I recall I think VP even called her... Then she killed herself. I do not know who it was -- anyone know? In the book "The people of the Lie" by Peck he goes into people who push you into things and their responsibility in the pushing. A young boy's 16 year old brother killed himself by a bullet to the brain. On this younger kid's 16th birthday they gave him the gun and said we thought you might like the gun your brother used... or something like that. Then, Peck went into the whole awful side of the obvious suggestion these parents were giving their 2nd son. Now, I gotta tell you the things VP and his zombies did were more blantant and packed more punch then the things I read from other arenas. The People of the Lie ummmmmm Some of the people in the Way for sure.

Okay, WW I am with you on the meat thing. Part of the reason I ate so many carbs was because I do not like meat. Not just the animal thing but the taste. I did eat the healthy carbs. Whole grain breads, real fruit, nuts and black bean burritos. I eat salsa rather than ketcup, etc. I had pasta a bunch with Amy's organic tomato sauce, but I really did not have a balanced diet. I am learning on this thread BALANCE I can have the carbs if I have the protiens... Sudo: your pictures are very impressive and give me hope. Rejoice: I did switch from white potatoes to sweet as they trickle the "sugar" into our systems rather than dump it in making our the sugar peek. Master H: I have done the enzymatic therapy whole body cleanse and NEVER felt better. Then, I tried a parasite cleanse as in the south for years people dewormed their kids and animals twice a year... So, I figured just in case, after reading Hulda Clark's book "a cure for all diseases". I also felt better and my husband has not had a seizure since he did that cleanse. Oil: Wow that is great news and the south beach diet now has frozen entrees. I might just take that plunge along with a pancreas cleanse. Master, can you suggest a pancreas cleanse? You are the 2nd nutritionist that did suggest that along with a pancreatic homeopathic, I cannot think of the name of it but I think it began with an "I" Belle: thanks for the info, you too Sushi. You know I was doing that eat carbs or eat protien --- like Suzanne Summers suggested in her earlier books -- about combining food. She always seperated the carbs from the proteins and so, I just found myself eating almost all carbs as I liked them better.

:huh: Well, I thought of suicide after what they did to me at the area meeting. Later, I heard the Rev. pimp said that if they lost me to suicide it would be for the advancement of "the Word" :o I could hardly speak for a peroid and just was quiet and shell shocked. It was then that Excathedra called me from the corps and made me talk to her. I was pretty non responsive. Ex kept saying you know Rev. (pimp) is insane don't you? Do not listen to anything she says. She sleeps with anything and is really really awful sacrificing those in her path... etc. Then, I was mad and determined to prove she was a nut. I was going to speak with Saint Vic and tell him his reindeer were running a muck but when I was called to the coach he was naked and asked me to do something to him. And I KNEW then, it all came from jolly ol' St. Vic himself. Suicide? I think only Ex knows how close I came to it because of fat St.Vic and his perverts, I mean coherts. May they rot in hell. :wub: :blink:

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My Doctor told me to read this book to keep me from falling into diabetes 2. So, I buy the book and it is very hard to read, it is long and boring. I have been trying to read it for almost a year. Can someone who read it just answer me with a cliff notes kinda post so I can just DO the book rather than read it? Thank you

Catcup: "Those with this special ministry were gatekeepers responsible for scoping out the flock for potential servants, instructing them in the sex doctrine of the inner circle, and then filling the 'Man of God's' stables with fresh new fillies to service his needs." I can attest to this being a true statement as I was targeted by one of the female Rev. pimps. When I was not interested they had an area meeting to announce I was possessed, that way when I told people about the "inner circle" or the practices of these "ordained" chosen, special people -- all would scoff at me. It wounded me GREATLY. They were b-tches like none other I have met in the secular world. Bunch of easy wh-res with a title and a dangerous secret assignment to ruin the lives of girls who were seeking Jesus. Yeah, meet the leaders of The Way, Linda Lovelace and the rest of the “head” hunters. Then of course, I was targeted by the fat-old-porn-showing-leader himself.... After telling him "no" I went from working "head table" to sanding furniture in an out-of-the-way area where I could not "hurt" anyone -- ya know by telling them what I knew. I wish I had the sense I had in high school when I got in the corps because the 17-year-old-me would have told them to kiss my azz and punched their lights out, but by this time, I had been pounded with the whole "listen to your leader" crap. So, sometimes I listened. But I was NOT going to take my pants off like a hooker for Jesus or something. The thought sickened me then as it does now. I feel badly for all the little girls who were tricked, blinded, convinced against their better judgment or had "something" to drink in the coach -- and then found themselves "no longer in control". That is awful and very different from becoming a recruiter.

HW My dear friend, I was reading this very interesting thread until the same-old same-old nut jobs began to go after you. Look, you know what you saw, most of us that were around saw what you saw, you know you are an honest guy, I know you were one of the most truthful ministry friends I had -- let it roll off your back. Some people choose to remain crazy. I guess they keep the hospitals full and the pharmaceutical companies in business producing adivan and the like. Love you HW As I recall the tape sent to the corps with CG yelling at us, all he did was talk about all the work he had been doing -- trying to look good, then made people feel bad. F- him

The Widow My husband of 33 years died long ago, yet even today I am not a widow. He died when he lost his bearings on what mattered in life. He died when he assumed an identity that belonged to an evil and misbegotten stranger. He died when he could not tell me the truth about Deeds done, feelings felt and distance. My husband grew cold to the touch, long before his death, as he became increasingly cruel and detached, and less and less himself. Witnessing my husband's slow and irreversible demise was painful and triggered tremendous sorrow and agony. Watching a loved one die is a pain that no one should ever have to endure. His integrity was the first to go. Then he lost his ability to grip the truth. He simply could no longer hold it in his hands or in his heart. Gradually, steadily, horribly, he lost his own identity, oblivious to his losses-- like an Alzheimer's patient lacking sufficient self-awareness of losing "it" while the losses continue to amass. Little by little, lie by lie, self-deception began to replace reality. Falsehoods began to supplant the real truth. Half-truths became whole truths. Strengthened by denial, fortified by deliberate blindness, I tried not to see his disintegration, as an odd stranger morphed into his psyche, and took over his person. Gradually, he became more and more like that odd stranger until the odd stranger and he were one and I no longer knew the person he had become. Before my husband's death, I sensed that the inner core of goodness, innocence, and kindness in the young man whom I had married more than three decades earlier, no longer existed (if it ever had). Personal honor. Inner integrity. Respect for truth, had all gradually dissipated as though leached from his soul. Drop by drop, lie by lie, until each had finally succumbed, forever vanquished. Honor, integrity, respect for the truth and his oath before God to love and cherish me, his wife, through sickness and in health, until parted by death, were all fatal casualties in his own internal battles. Battles fought in a bloodless war waged deep within himself. A war that he had lost and in which he, too, had perished. And so, I have awakened, only to find myself alone.

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Thanks everyone, we had heard that COMCAST customer service was BAD, we heard that the phone was cheap as all long distance is free. We are still deciding.

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Does anyone have and what do you think? The internet, the TV service, or the phone service? We have read bad things about it on the net and were going to get the internet then the phone and TV. Any thoughts? Thank you

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Happy B-day, I lost your e-mail (and everyone elses when my hubs updated my system... "No, you won't loose anything... I am just updating....." Plunk....gone) Happy B-day, I hope it was great.