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When you finally "get" what happened it is shocking. I am glad you "got it" and shared how it made you feel. Not alot of people are comfortable doing that. I applaude you.

Ex As long as you do not mind speculation -- here we go. Pitt didn't like Jen's smoking so he got the big house in California. She could smoke at one end and it didn't bother him. Soon she was smoking on the other side and falling asleep. They drifted apart. Meanwhile, Angelina broke her vile of Thorton blood and needed some more jewlery. Pitt, a little lonely as Jen kept sleeping with her ciggarettes, goes to work on a movie with Angelina. The only way Angelina could get a new necklace (with human man blood) was to seduce Pitt. IT was successful, only he feel for her and dropped Jen. Jen didn't notice at first because of all the smoking, she didn't notice he was missing until she called his name for a week through the cig fog and he did not answer. Then, a friend dropped of a People Magazine with the whole Pitt/Jolie story And it broke Jen's heart.

You are right -- I never saw it before, obviously they were lovers. A jewish nun, now there is a show.

Ex That was very well said

I doubt it as I am not pregnant, nor has the hubs ran off with a big lipped broad. I am genuinely concerned about Jen. She seems like a nice person being discussed everywhere, even here by me, when the poor woman's husband ran off on her. She has to "hold up" in the public eye when she should be able to nurse her wounds. I feel for her. She has the likable quality like Meg Ryan, it is easy for me to be in her corner, because she she is easy to like and want good things for her. I like Oprah too -- I know you don't but I hate it when people pick at her as well.

I bet Jen feels terrible now that Angelina is having Pitt's kid. I feel bad for her. Yes, Sudo I bet the office talks about them. Funny, but I am really concerned for poor Jen as if we were buddies.

We could say "because they do" But that would be an excuse. I know wonderful women who were kind, successful and "there" for their spouse and the spouse still cheated. I thought it was about "sex" but after Halle Barry got cheated on -- it can't be about just looks and sex but maybe a search for something. Or loneliness. Or couples are together that shoud not be, or people stop talking to each other I dunno. I do not cheat, but my one friend had a horrible husband who emotionally abandoned her, would not ever schedule alone time, life became all about their kids to him. He told people, he would always side with his kids -- they are forever; wives may not be. She cheated on him for 3 years. If they divorce she gets nothing, and although I do not advocate it, in her shoes I may have done the same thing. Very lonely union. She tells the daughter you cannot get a thong bathing suit, the father - right in front of the mother- says I'll buy it for you. The spoiled daughter had a fight with the mother, beating the mother on the floor. The daughter grabbed a knife to stab the mother and the father came home, the wife screaming "help me!" Father walks in and says, "Stop it girls." And walks away. To me he put the daughter in the position of the equally yoked and the wife was the goat in the back of the truck. She shrank and died. Then a guy came along and told her she was gorgeous and treats her like a queen.... It may be wrong but the whole thing is wrong -- all of it. So, where does blame lie? Is cheating always wrong?

Just thinking here.... I say "you" not meaning anyone just using it as a pronoun in my thought process.. So, if what you look for in a mate is to have your needs met... rather than finding yourself, then when your mate does not fill your bottomless pit, you begin to look for someone else who might fill you... So, some marry not for love but for "what you can do for me" "How I feel when I am with you" "If she is pretty, everyone envies ME." If she gains weight "people make fun of ME." hmmmmm food for thought BTW, Wayfer Not I know what you are saying

Hi Al- Yea, the simple things in life...Ahhhhh (BTW, email me I lost your address so I can put it in my record) So, some think that appearance is a factor -- such as stop caring about the way you look... That may apply to some, but Halle Barry a beauty had her guy running around, so that can't be all of it. Maybe if the Guy is so worried about his wife's appearance it isn't about LOVE but about people viewing him as LUCKY to have such a hotty, which would make a person an object.... Such as a guy marries a beauty not because of her heart but her looks, then the first time she is ugly with the flu his feelings may change. So, that would be about the person not marrying for the right reasons... Which gets back to what Coolwaters said when she said (ineffect) it was about the person doing the cheating, the maturity of that person. Maybe if they had self worth then they wouldn't blame things like well she was all big and pregnant and it was a turn off... When one isn't happy in a relationship perhaps one isn't happy with self, and being as most do not want to evaluate SELF they evaluate the spouse and make it THEIR fault they had to cheat.... My friend's husband was mad at her as she gained about 25 pounds over 30 years, but he was also mad she became a successful atty. He wanted her to be cute and cooking at home in his kitchen.... He used this as a reason TO CHEAT...

I guess that depends on how many people know who Robert Mitchum was.... (smile) I used to want to grow up and marry him. He seemed so manly. Haley Mills? I wanted to be just like her.

WOW to both of your honest answers. I know it is up to the person to KEEP their commitment and I find it interesting how some do and some don't A friend of mine told me that in marriage you will find thousands of reasons to LEAVE everyday, the trick is to find the reasons in staying together. But being cheated on is very painful. It seems that woman who do breakdown and do it, do so because their relationship lacks meaning/attention and a man who cheats seems to say, "It didn't mean anything...." ya know the "other woman". So, if it means NOTHING then why do it? MEn say cheating is meaningless and woman cheat to find meaning.... And with a woman if you are seeking meaning perhaps there are parts of yourself you need to find... I dunno.... It is just so painful. Two of my friends have been/are being cheated on right now. The one finally got divirced and the guy married the mistress in 3 weeks. His wife of 30 yearsish is just laying in bed in pain. The other found her husband is running around with the neighbor. Sometimes I think attraction is a great thing, like when you first date. But when LIFE happens, there are bills to pay, illness happens, death in the family, job loss it kind of overrides all the simple reasons you loved the person to begin with. Then the new person, without any of the cumbersome things of LIFE is sitting there looking good and uncomplicated..... But then they get involved with them and LIFE happens. CoolWaters, staying together must really be about the "core" of each person, I imagine. Good post, BTW George, I know people who fuel their cheating by making it their partners fault, I guess the spouse is an easy target when you are laying next to your cheater new boy/girl friend It is just such a painful thing to live through. (Cheaters) Why not break up BEFORE you date others? Ya know? Sorry that happened to you

I am an anti-cheater. I have a couple girlfriends who have cheated and their reasons boiled down to "they felt neglected and unappreciated" this went on for a period of time and "this other person" made them feel pretty and special" and it happened. Talking to hanging out to sex to an all out affair. I can see how the loneliness just gets into depression and how it all happens, still not an advocate, but I see how it can happen. I do not really see how to prevent it if you go to your spouse over and over and ask them to pay attention to you, or look for a compliment and they ignore your needs for feeling "connected" I can see how someone being NICE to you can be a long forgotten piece of candy. Why do men cheat? Same reasons or are they just more easily ready to "spring" into action and react to it? I always wondered what brings people to the point where they look at the person they love or used to love and decide it is okay to run around.

I know even writing this I laugh 'cause I don't know this people nor the inner workings of their relationship. But for whatever reason, I am hooked by the speculation of this. Maybe because I watched Friends for 9 years and alwyas liked Pitt. For whatever reason, this subject matter interests me. (Ben and Jen bored me and I did not care, nor did Jessica and Nick -- must be cause I watched Friends -- these three have me hooked ) Interesting about the size thing....

Funny but the meatier woman seem to be the preference on men... Like Marilynn it is rumored she was a size 14.

If I were Goth or something I guess blood may very well be my cup of tea..... Not in a vile, but perhaps an actual cup..... yuck! kidding

I also miss tap dancing movies, like Shirley Temple "Good Ship Lollypop"

I never thought Heather was hot, Gina Lola Bridgeta (Spelling) is a hotty But back to gossiping about the stars, don't you think Angelina is a bit weird? I mean DNA blood viles as jewlery? She seems dark where Jen seems light and I dunno healthier.

Hayek is pretty -- Oh Brad why oh why did you really dump Jen. One interview suggested because she smoked.....

If I were a guy... It would be Jennifer. Angelina reminds me of Madonna a girl whose has been "round the block about 1000 times....

I miss Robert Mitchum movies. I miss the "all man" quality in Robert. (Even greats like Liam Nesson I don't think grab the rugged man like Mitchum did) I miss Haley Mills Disney movies such as Polyanna. I miss the innocent quality in her acting... I miss the comedic nature of men like David Brenner and Rich Little....

Okay I admit it. I am hooked on the how could you hurt Jennifer Aniston and run off with the blood in a vile, Billy Bob Thorton banging, Angelina? Now granted she is sexy with her big lips and seductive eyes, but Jennifer seems pretty wonderful and by all accounts sweet. Now men would you throw it away for Angelina? I get it that Brad and she like to run around the world saving people and that is a great thing in common and a "good heart" thing to do... I am hooked to the whys and where fors....

From ALMOST FAMOUS Lester Bangs: So, you're the one who's been sending me those articles from your school newspaper. William Miller: I've been doing some stuff for a local underground paper, too. Lester Bangs: What, are you like the star of your school? William Miller: They hate me. (Now my favorite line) Lester Bangs: You'll meet them all again on their long journey to the middle.

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Tonto- I wore and loved earth shoes, went looking for them, they have them called something else but real expensive. Garth- Green bananas? You might not live long enough for them to ripen. I'm so old I don't buy geen bananas anymore.

Tonto BTW, you are adorable! I recall those hats and a bag purse made of suede with long shredded strands of threads hanging. As the saying goes, yeah I am old -- I don't buy green banana's anymore. My first car was a light blue Pontiac Tempest Lemans