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I went to see my Dad in his new after-hurricane home here in Georgia. Really nice! He is struggling with heart and diabeties problems. I am reading the South Beach Diet to help him loose about 20 pounds and to be healthier. Anyway, I get the sugar index numbers and to choose low ones. Then, it goes into menu items for 14 days in a row. HE will not want to eat EXACTLY that. So where is there a substitution page or something? Did I miss somthing? I mean should there be two meats a day with low sugar and X amount of veggies. How do I figure out substitutions? Is there a certain amount of sugars allowed and no more? What is the magic formula so I can mix it up a bit? Anyone know?

Have fun!

My friend Beth is with a man and she is miserable. He has cut off all avenues of escape. She moved to Georgia from Wiss. After the home she was renting was sold out from under her. She had $40,000.00 and a car from her divorce. A mutual friend introduced her to John. John is 23 years older than she is. Beth moved here and the first thing John did was say,, “Give my daughter your car and I will get you a better one.” Beth gave his daughter the car (signed the title over) And John never got Beth a car. Instead he “allowed her” to drive a 14 year old piece of crap that John had in the driveway. (If she leaves he told her he would have her hunted by police for stealing his car.) John then lost his job and Beth paid all the bills while he criticized her “small job” and income. She was milked out of all her money to save Joh's home and pay the bills. He had a affair behind her back. Then, John got sick. Beth drove him all over the place trying to get him well, only to have him criticize her driving. She is so unhappy. I asked her HOW she got into this to begin with and she said. I guess it was I “got the cool guy”. He was Fonzi back in the day. Popular, women liked him, he did those wild things that cool guy's do…. He was a violent short guy in a leather jacket who would explode as "nobody was going to push him around." I said, “Does he still do those things or has he grown up?” She said he is now 60 years old and he dressed all in black and goes to the neighbors house, his rival and blows up firecrackers in the middle of the night in their yard. I asked, “Do you still find this CUTE or do you see it as pathetic?” She said at "17" it would have been “cool guy stuff” but now he is just a looser. But she began her relationship with him at 27 and he was 50. They got together for good 3 years ago as a real couple. She said thatt he had been funny, wild and cool even at 50. But COOL doesn't cut it in the day to day life of bill paying and planning a future. I wonder how many people knew/know Fonzi and watched him go from cool guy to pathetic old guy. Fonzi didn’t age well…. Know any Fonzi's? I surely do.

Best Wishes!

Hopefull- Just the other day I was thinking about how I have grown because of Greasespot and reading Waydale and help from John Juedes. And even though I feel more whole by moving away from the practices of a cult... There are MANY days I feel lost. I do not miss the cult, but BEFORE I knew it was a cult I believed I was living for God surrounded by people who were also living for God, those were the BEST days of me life. Then, of course I went in the corps which was the antithisis of the sweet fellowship I experienced on the field. After the corruption of the corps came out to the states, well I never knew those sweet days again. I have NOT found it in church, notr work or a smattering of friendships. Whatever we had BEFORE I went in the corps was very real to me and I miss it all the time. I miss being with a group of people wh actually expect GOD to answer prayers. I miss meeting lost people and telling them about a Christ who cares for them. I know what you mean. YET, I have an even stronger relationship with God having walked away from the crap and the offshoot crap. It is hard to explain I am stonger yet I am more (people) alone than ever. I talk to God all the time. But I wish I had three people to hold hands with and pray. I know... I am sorry for your losses, I truly am.

W.W. I am so very proud of you!

Funny all! Kelvar I read something about brain damage but then it was posted by a person that also said he has 17 minutes to live. Funny all! Kelvar I read something about brain damage but then it was posted by a person that also said he has 17 minutes to live. Tom- I never heard that before pretty good one

http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/n...ticle362885.ece What was he thinking? Now a clot and an operation, geez. Boys will be boys? or Rock stars will be rock stars?

S- Publix is in Georgia, I do not know where you are. In CA check Albertsons maybe. But Maverick meat was the best I can do here.

Whoa! Does she take vitamins?

Ca dreaming In the book who can wear maroon? I do not recall. Sirguess, it really does help people to look their best, huh? Everyone How do you know if the person is a spring or an Autumn this one girl has me stumped, I think she is a spring but she is a cornflower blue eyed brunett, no freckles. Real white skin with a natural blush but she can wear the heavier warms like dark green....

Orange Dove --- LOL Exxie you were/are a spring. Belle - Carol Jackson Joniam - how refreshing to know a man who knows Everyone - I still think of these colors while shopping, and apparently a lot of you do as well. They really helped me with color. I loved the eggshell yellow, but when I wore it people offered me vitamins. When I switched to icy pastels ans pure whites I got compliments. I have a girl in the office who wears all the wrong colors, I sent her the info after we had a "color" talk. She is now in orange and looking great -- she is a warm pallet. Up until now she wore black to look "thin". Kelvar -- I recall a corps class on clor etc. What was its name? Edit for typo (I am not a good typist)

Belle here is the begining of the list on the other site. Just so you know this kind of thing happens elsewhere. Here it is off the RAPE area: Things not to say to a survivor These are things that have been said to me, and I have seen a couple of them here, so I think this post is necessary. Things Not To Say to a Survivor: "It's all your fault." We already feel like it's our fault, we don't need to hear it. Not only that, but assault is NEVER the victims fault. It doesn't matter if they were standing in the middle of a dark alley drunk and naked, they did not ask for sex. "You should have reported it." I know that reporting it can help keep them off the streets and all, but it is a VERY hard thing to do, and for some, the thought of reporting it and facing their assailant in court is a more traumatic thought than what actually happened to them. Reporting it is a personal choice, one the victim must make on their own. "Just forgive/pray for the guy and don't think about it anymore." If it were that simple, we would have done it already. "Oh, you were just (fill in the blank). You're lucky, it could have been worse, you know." No, it couldn't have been worse. Assault is assault. While there are different experiences, there are no degrees. It's all just as traumatic. "Why didn't you (fill in action here)." or, "If it were me, I would have (fill in the blank)." We all like to think of what we would have/could have done, but the truth is, you never know until it actually happens. Your body and mind do not react to assault and trauma like they do to normal everyday stressors. Many people freeze up, and that's okay, because it's the mind and body's way of protectiong itself. If they are here, they did something right. They survived, and that's really what it's all about. "You're not over that yet?" or "You're still thinking about that?" Any kind of trauma takes a lifetime to "get over." There will come a time when we are "healed" and will think about it less, but it's something that will always be with us. I'm sure more will come up eventually, but these are the big ones I have noticed. Feel free to add to the list.

Remember the book? I loved it and still live by it. I cannot find my dang book. But found links to the info. Do you remember what you are? I am a winter. http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art36502.asp edited for a typo

Crying here from all the love and loss. Belle: I go on another Christain site. And the VERY thing you are discussing upsets MANY MANY people there as well, IT is not just about being in the stupid cult, its about people just maybe speaking out of a paper rectum. The area on RAPE on this other site, well a woman went into what happened to her and bled her heart out with pain and fear, and someone responded, "Forgive your attacker." Another discussed how she was raped by her father. The response was to forgive him and move on. The lack of compassion, understanding and love was monumental. I got on and told them if they never wanted to forgive them they didn't have to do it. If they wanted to forgive them someday, that would be between them and God. It is NONE of my business. And if someone is in pain for 40 years it is very sad, and saying "Get over it" well, I imagine the person wants to get over it but for some reason still has a need to "talk about it" Anyway, the point is that this kind of expression to someone who is still in pain is insensitive. And it "shuts them down" making it even more difficult to "get over it" because now they don't feel like they are in a safe place to talk about it, but must justify why they aren't over it. That kind of pressure "get over it" is way more hurtful than helpful. And someone over there actually wrote a post on "What not to say..." And the "Get over it" "Forgive them" sh it was on the list. Perhaps the person should say, "I was in severe pain and I was able to "get over it" I hope someday you will be able get all the pain out and heal. I have and I feel better." That would be more kind.

They sell Maverick beef at Publix here, it has not antibiotics etc. I don't know if it is corn or grass fed, but it tastes better.

Sorry this got off on the whole rape thing, I wanted to remark to this post. I believe you. I maybe wrong, but I can see how someone who works with Craig in his new life might stumble across this. Like someone watching America's most wanted may see a co-worker and find it hard to believe they committed a crime. I can see how that would happen, I can believe Craig is sad, if I hurt hundreds of people (be they willing ladder climbing women -- or the other group of just girls looking for Jesus who got deceived, they were all in some kind of deception. Whether they deceived thenselves to be on a fast track, or were decieved by him looking for Jesus.) I feel badly when I think of someone I bullied in highschool, so I can believe it. I think he should write an I am sorry post, but whatever.... I do know some posters, who cannot imagine rape happened, did have willing -- even eager family members --so their viewpoint can be skewed. Not going in the direction of anyone. It just helps in my understanding where people are comming from. Lots of people had lots of different experiences. But Freud, I say all that to say this: I can see what you are saying really happening. And until it comes out otherwise I believe you. And if Craig repents, that is between he and God. And if God put you in his path to reach him -- then so be it. I can see God reaching out to the lost, or the savage sinner. If Craig dropped to his knees and came clean with his God, that would be powerful and wonderful. I may still not LIKE him, nor trust him, but I would be glad he REALLY found God this time. But do understand, he did wreck lives. But if God called you to reach out to him -- then reach. I'd confront him with what you have discovered, and tell him he really needs to consider a huge apology letter. How that letter is received is up to each reader as many had their hearts torn and their spirits broken by his rantings. IMO, the Craig that I knew was a horrid man. But God is a BIG GOD. But I tell you this, until he publicly admits he was deceived and the whole sex thing, using people, its okay in the eyes of God to bless a (married) man of god sexually -- well he looks a little David Koresh to me and will remain so.

My little peke "Baby" was going down hill. I asked the vet WHEN you put a pet to sleep. He told me he NEVER tells anyone when to do that. HE said years before he had a client that asked when to put Pepper to sleep? And he suggested that NOW would be a good time. Then, the woman got another dog and brought that dog in for years. With each visit she would say, "Do you think we put Pepper down to early?" HE said it is when you know your pet is ready to go and when YOU are ready to let go." I went home and had a long talk with Baby and told her if she had to leave me, she could go. I told her I would be alright. Before I ever got a chance to take her to the vet, she died three days later. I think her death was an agreement between "us." It was still an awful day. I work for a vet now. We put animals down often. It is always difficult. Most reasons are cancer, or other horrible things like that. A percentage is old age. But the hobbled, blind animals who have trouble with food and water -- well I think it is merciful. I wish, if I were in that condition, someone would let me rest in peace.

Thank God!!!

Saf- My Doctor would completely disagree, she also says that white potatoes throw sugar into the system, where a sweet potato digests more slowly as it drizzles into the system, this keeps your insulin and fat producing systems in your bodyfrom working over-time. Her advice was the book Sugar busters and a life style more towards The South Beach Diet.

Ron that is interesting! GOEY I read those articles, very interesting. They remind me of a book called FIghting the Food Giants They had documentation that a certain food company was changing the food structure to make you more hungry after you ate it so you would it more. We have no idea how delicate our systems are, and once messed with, how to get them back to norm. I know my hysterectomy, then HORMONE pills messed up my life terribly.

Sudo, It wasn't Kit it was me. And honestly, there has been nobody who has ever said anything in a loving manner about my health. Usually just a snide remark or the like. I do not think starving to death is a fair comparison to someone who is having trouble loosing weight. Honestly, I have been to countless Doctors as after a hysterectomy I have been in trouble. My holistic MD, said I have screwed up my hormones so badly that it has affected my insulin and that it is the WAY I eat, not what I eat. I had been on a 15oo cal a day diet and Doctor given diet pills and lost nothing. (Except sleep) and it scared me. Most had the opinion "you must eat too much" But I knew I didn't. I kept looking for answers and this Doctor was helpful in explaining what happened to me after a hysterectomy. And by my eating VERY little protein I was always dumping sugar making meals into my system which had my pancreas working over time.... Anyway, I wasn't really going to get into my person battle and reasons. My point is, while I am going through ALL of ths He LL, people think it is olay to pick on someone and ASSUME that they are a pig or something. The point is NOT how I got here but whats it to a stranger? OR if I tell someone please do not send me any diets you are depressing me, this is not an area of my life I wish to share with you, and the response -- Not I care about your health, but --"Well, then you will loose your husband" I don't care, if that is what is going because I gained weight, then at least I will be rid of 175 pounds. The point is not how anyone got here it is why does anyone think it is open season to be mean to anyone who puts on a few pounds. You told us how you lost weight and you LOOK great. I am proud of you. But, if you didn't loose weight, you would not be any "less" of a man (no pun intended) and should have never been a target of a cruel joke. I have been. I do not get why. I really don't. Looks are a huge part of society. Thus the make-up, surgeries etc. And I have come to terms with that. I have studied a bunch about my specific symptoms, as it does depress me, but what really gets me is pure meaness. Like Oprah to me is a wonderful accomplished person, but she has been the target of really mean and nasty humor and remarks. Why do that to a lovely person? Why do people feel they have that right? That is my point. When Liz Taylor gained weight Joan Rivers was horrible. MAking fun of her all the time with MEAN jokes. When Liz lost the weight, Joan and she were seated at a table at an event. Joan said to Liz, "I guess I really helped you loose weight." And Liz told her that her meaness was NOT helpful, and that the cruelity was crippling. She lost weight because she lost weight, Joan's meaness was NOT helpful. So Why?

Allan I think you were actually kidding and trying to inject humor, but that is kind of the gripe about the thread is that FAT makes one the brunt of the joke, a target to be criticized and somehow ridicule is suppose to happen if you are over weight. So, it was a poor choice and timing for a joke, I think that maybe why people are upset. Whats your Achilles Heal? Missing hair? Acne or old man pock marks? Hair sprouting from your ears? Or just lack of bedside manner?

The last one I did hurt, I told the girl it hurt and she gave the VICE another swift turn. I screamed and instinctively tried to run, only I was pancaked in the vice. So, that hurt even more, the whole floor heard me scream as it was at a woman's center. I had some offical people come in and refused to continue, I had to sign a release for them to let me go. AND I was bruised for a long time and sore for over a year. I do not know what she did to me but putting a bra on was painful on the smashed side for over a year. I have not gone back and I will not, I know the risk. But never again

I'm a 43 and I wish I really was just 43.....years old