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Thanks This guy -- maybe a Dave Hansen? Maybe not -- it was so long ago. I saw him our first year and worked on grounds at HQ with him a bit. He was really nice. So, I have mixed up the Norway guy with this nice guy. Anyway, I wondered what happned to Dave (I think) as he was rally really a very nice and fun guy. I never saw him again. Anyone know who I mean? Blonde, tall, broad shoulders, big eyes and great sense of humor?

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Thanks all, Waysider, Ariel and Rascal I am glad you can relate. I sang, danced and am a fab actress (if I do say so myself). From the time I could write I wrote and directed plays that I starred in (of course). I was moving in that direction and two things happened I met the wrong guy and found TWI. The wrong guy? I think I could haved pushed passed that mistake. Well, I was still checking into soap operas in NYC and then all of a sudden I was in TWI. It was like a wind that blew me off course and I just stayed there. Yeah, I do think what if?

Did you guys ever think about your parallel life? The life you should be living, the one lost? I do. I think I would have been successful in the entertainment field as that is the direction I was in -- like a calling from birth. Acting, dancing and other things. Or I would have been married with kids and have a retirement. I just feel robbed, pushed to live on a road that runs next to the road I should have been on. You cannot go back to the point it veered right or left, only try to move forward with what one has now. But I feel the road I had, I should have stayed there. OR maybe God in his wisdom saw I would not have “made it” but have been an actress on drugs and TWI was a step up from the life I would have had. I just wonder, ya know?

So they said he was in TWI on a crime show? I recall a murder in a WOW family then the guy went and broke all the statues in a catholic church... Or maybe I am combining stories There was a WOW in my family I wanted to kick her AZZ, but I cannot imagine a murder. But there were many unstable people we witnessed to... ran through the class and believed they were healed. The poor WOW's that dies that way. How horrible Rascal which crime show?

Thanks Dooj Yeah, I started this thread and Too gray now and I talked for pages and pages. I appreciate your keeping it private, if you were not sure, that was nice. Thanks Sorry Ms. Dog;over I thought you were 11th. But it is nice to see our 13th! Listen, I have a question about the Norway thing. The guy who did it? I recall a really nice guy our first year that had broad shoulders and blonde hair. Nice looking guy. I think he spoke Russian among other languages. I thought his name was Jan but maybe Dave. Anyway, anyone know of whom I speak? This Norway murder wasn't him was it? He was a real nice guy

Iam 11th and so is Too Gray Now and HCW ww and doglover I believe...

I was there 79/80 as well Rascal cause I did res 80-81, interium 81-82, last year 82-83 Rascal were you with Trish B? Were you there when Chuck Masterson was there? He was a cool guy and we were friendly. Also Ed Kerst who was adorable. You guys -- I may have known you then!!! I wore a white cowgirl hat and red cowgirl boots.

Pond Felidae is great and Solid Gold Cat food as well Science Diet was not marked good on the American Holistic Vet Asso. list years ago and has never been labeled good, neither is Beneful with all its nice pictures on the bag. Pond- that was a great story We had a few cats who ate the recall food and they died. So, that is really cool

I feel you Rascal.

I use solid Gold or Canidae but I am checking into one called Petcurean GO grain free. Wheat is a big cause of allergies -- GO is grain free.... What are you feeding your pets? Hope it isn't some of these... http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_re...index.php/cat/1 http://www.paws.org/cas/resources/fact_she.../foodrating.php http://hubpages.com/tag/pet+food+review?page=2 http://www.dogaware.com/dogfeeding.html#TopCanned http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=main

I loved that!

To paraphrase as I cannot find it - The corps may have gotten us into this (TWI) but they also help to lead us out (Something like that) Anyway, I loved it.

I was WOW in Arkansas. In Hot Springs and Forest City. I recall Sam and Linda Marsh -- I loved them!!!! Anyone know Dwayne Elliot or Janice ... I cannot recall her last name -- cute little black girl in FC-- we wrote for a few years.

I believe the corps enabled Dr. W to function, and protected him to function secretly. (The .... of the devil is the secrecy of his moves....) There was the corps. Then a breakdown of the WC, IMHO. 1. The good little supplicants who really believed they were moving the word and truly loved the Lord and wanted to help people. 2. Then, there was a group a little closer to the moggie. They were blessed to get his dry cleaning, clean his house, wash the motor coach etc. 3. Out of that group, they picked people they thought “could handle” the real Way Ministry. The ones who could keep their mouths shut. The ones who would squeal on their own mothers to their superiors and the ones who had “understanding” of the divine sexual promiscuity with which VPW was involved. I think most corps started out as #1. Some were moved into group #2. These people were very gung-ho. They started to like to “nane drop” who they had hung with on Saturday night. Many could not go on to step #3, because they were not “cool” enough to handle the TRUE inner circle or because they were needed as a buffer zone… Close enough to the Moggies to swear they never saw anything funny going on. (Because they were deliberately kept out of the true inner circle) Then, there was group #3. The men were willing to share their wives or girlfriends with other “men”. The women were ready if not eager to “bless the Moggie” with their vagina’s and big full lips… Once in, they liked it and wanted to convert others to the real goings on. They became recruiters. Now, many invited from group #2 to group #3 did not want any part of it. They were appalled by it. In an effort to get them to shut up, they were campaigned against, such as discussed that they were possessed and not to be listened to, or they were bad corps. I was in group #1, a wide eyed innocent coming from the field and very much in love with God and wanting to develop in the corps to serve God. I was brought into #2 quickly, placed on the Head Table and invited to meet “certain” people. When I was perceived as “cool” I was then introduced to the sick goings on and I said “NO WAY” I then, was taken from jobs like head table, and placed in refinishing where I could not harm anyone by my “Tales” or “Fables” of naked leaders begging for BJ’s and willing girls pushing others into it. As a failure in group #3, I was then screamed at, accused of being possessed, treated like dog crap etc, the fear became over whelming and I truly believe the push was for me to commit suicide. Which I did entertain. I then, full of fear, no longer acted our of love, but out of fear. And in my acting out of fear, I did behave in ways I am sickened by today. Pushing a class, witnessing to people out of fear (were I once did it out of love) and had them take a class I knew was the first step to crap. I always liked it when they took the class then left. I liked the class just not the crap after it. The corps was like the movie “Training Day” with Denzel Washington. So, no VPW could have never operated without the WC.

Yes, Rascal a gun to my head would have been less painful then the tearing at my flesh. And I would have rather been shot than to have hurt anyone, but alas I know that I did. There were days in TWI a bullet would have been welcomed. Just shoot me, ya know?

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Rascal- Did we have similar experiences or what? I know exactly what you are saying. Act2, Highway and Listner- Does it feel like you awoke from a very long, almost endless nightmare?

There was a TV preacher on today I was listening to -- He was talking about the WORDS we listen to shaping us, going into our hearts and changing us. He went through Proverbs and here is one area of it he sited: Proverbs 18 20 A man’s stomach shall be satisfied from the fruit of his mouth; From the produce of his lips he shall be filled. 21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue, And those who love it will eat its fruit So, for all those people, who let TWI off the hook all of the time, saying no gun was held to your head, this man had the words of the teachers very accountable for shaping and for speaking destruction into our lives. He went through the POWER of words and how the words we speak can be "Let there be light" or "Let there be Death" They minister with LOVE or FEAR. TWI was listened to by me (and others) because they had "the Word." The destruction and fear they caused is very real. The words they spoke were, to me, worse than holding a gun to my head -- They held God to my heart and told me if I did not obey THEM Iwould loose his love, I would be a greasespot by midnight. I let that fear and wrong teaching drip into my core, because at first they gave me a class called PFAL which spoke words of life, power and hope. Then, they switched their words, their methods, they changed from love to hatred and fear. I bought what they sold when it was sweet. When it became ugly, I kept fighting with myself, reminding myself of how great PFAL was to keep buying into it. (The stolen class) Once, I (and others) got to what VPW was actually teaching from "his ministry," confusion had me continue to value what they said and offered, even though it was totally different. Fear had me captive. Fear of loosing God, being talked about, yelled at by the big forehead.... Fear. But they are responsible for pushing me (and others) down that road with their WORDS. My part of the blame was believing them, believing a God of love would hate me if I left a stupid ministry. I would have preferred a gun to my head than the words that saturated my soul and changed me into a forehead following gremlin.

Biker Well stated. I am in a county which currently has nore illegals pouring into it than any other -- or so it is reported. And the Mexican illegals? They are doing condtruction and fixing the roads which Americans would love to do but have been pushed out. I totally KNOW what you are talking about. I live in a spanish he!!, and then we are peppered by crips on top of things. I am thinking about moving to Germany

Twinky It could be written about Ralph D He was/is a great man. IMO I could also say that about Joe Guarini who was a wonderful guy. I cannot think of any others off hand.