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It was like a child pedaphile at a grade school. He liked young teenage girls and State College was his stalking ground/ along with the Way Corps. Anyway, EXW - I am glad John site helped you. He helped me so very much that "thank-you" pales to all the thankfulness I actually feel toward him and his kindnesses toward me.

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WOW That is great You are too young to have a married kid.

Oh, and the limb leaders (I LOVED) were giving reports on her, before I heard the suicide thing, that very male leader was up in State College and fondled a teenage girl (now a woman). Yet, he was giving us reports. Then, I heard Marsha was so full of devils she killed herself. They were prob. trying to get her to kill herself. They tried it on me. Were you getting reports fom K@th or P@ul? At that time I heard it from P@ul. If your reports were from K@th she was the very one setting Marsha up and sexually servicing VPW. Interesting, huh? All lies. Later, I was with the pimp woman up close and personal. But I already told you that.

That is what they did to me when I went to expose that WOMAN leader. At the time, I did not know she was one of VPW's favorite "past times" that he was sharing with Howard. I thought if I told VPW about what was going on he would fix it. I was invited into the coach and he wanted to know if I "swallowed" He was naked. I rejected the offer -- clumsy and frightened. Mrs. W came in and I took it as a reason to run out. I knew then that that "harlot" was under his direction and all the weirdness was coming down from him. Sunesis was friends with one of the big State College girls and has shared here that "that woman" was involved with the "sex" stuff as well. You probably know her - or know of her. Yes, like a stalking predator, VPW used State College as his private hunting grounds. It was close to Ohio... Those poor girls. Were any of your WOW girls sent off to a "coach" meeting?

ExW Did they tell you that Marsha was full of devils and those devils said bad things about leadership? That is what we were told, and I wanted to reach out to her, even though we were not friends, and was told she committed suicide. I forget every detail, but that is what I was told. Probably to keep her "truth" from getting out. Then, I had a similar experience with the same woman - then VPW, and they did the same thing to me. I was expendable - just like Marsha. If not for people like John Juedes my mind would still be in a prison. His sharings and his site helped me tremendously. We have had people here defend VPW and say these girls did not have a gun to their heads. I tried to explain how young these girls were. I know State College is where VPW and Howard did their prowling and took many a teenage girl to their horrible sex parties and gave them drink when the young girls were looking for Jesus. You were only 17 and first year in college -- many girls your age were hit on by the old farts. I think as a parent these VPW defenders would at least soften as they look in the eyes of their own daughters, and realize it could have been them. Anyway, I am getting off topic, but did you know the young WOW Marsha speaks of who was in the bed that day on the coach? She must have been pretty young. Not that age means much to me, to be deceived by a Moggie is horrible even if you are 30. But many think of his assaults as consentual sex (only cause the girls had reached 18 or more) and we have not diswayed them. What do you recall?

Yes, thank you John and to all the God-loving people out there who have taken crap for exposing a dangerous cult named "TWI" I was in PA when all that went on. I worked at the limb - we also heard Marsha was possessed by the same HARLOT - PIMP who later hurt me. I wondered what happened to her, until Ralph told me that the 3rd corps woman who set her up was the one who set me up. I had heard that Marsha had committed suicide (the same thing THEY pushed me to do) So, I was so happy to read her letter -- just like you. Glad she is alive and recovering!!!! We prob. know each other. Let me send you a hug.

I do not know how to do it Thanks Way sider. This one got me through some stuff in the 80's - fighting some TWI weirdos Don't Dream its Over There is freedom within There is freedom without Try to catch the deluge in a paper cup There's a battle ahead Many battles are lost But you'll never reach the end of the road While you're traveling with me CHORUS: Hey now, hey now Don't dream it's over Hey now, hey now When the world comes in They come, they come To build a wall between us We know they won't win Now I'm towing my car There's a hole in the roof My possessions are causing me suspicion but there's no proof In the paper today Tales of war and of waste But you turn right over to the TV page CHORUS Now I'm walking again To the beat of a drum And I'm counting the steps to the door of your heart Only shadows ahead Barely clearing the roof Get to know the feeling of liberation and relief CHORUS REPEAT UNTIL FADE: Hey now, hey now Don't dream it's over Hey now, hey now When the world comes in The hottest songs from Sixpence None The Richer

I cannot tell you how embarrassed and ashamed I am of what I allowed in my life because of the confusion I had between a class that helped me and the man who taught it was hurting me. I am ashamed before God that when he sounded the alarms to run away I did not listen. I have reasons. I wanted “to save” the ministry, I felt an allegiance due to some “good times” back in the beginning. Truth: Any good was because God is huge and loves us in an enormous way. If God tells you to leave – then he MUST know that staying is worse. Also, whom did I think I was that I would save the ministry? If it were God’s ministry then he would be active in saving it. Seems he was active in exposing it so those little lambs might survive this huge assault on our calling. What a real attack – to attack a school where people went to become ministers. To teach those little lambs bleating for direction, that once taken under Moggie’s wing, you could really do all the sinful things the Bible clearly says is wrong – and somehow it is right. Mmmmm sounds like something done before…. It was described to me as a higher plane and only people who "could handle it" were invited to partake. Anyone who objected or reproved their behavior was considered someone who "stumbled" at their freedom in their walk with Christ. Therefore, there was no way to correct them; they exalted themselves as gods deciding what was right and what was wrong. (Genesis 3:5). I am ashamed that I bought it. I am ashamed that when God directed me with bells and whistles to leave – I stayed. I am sorry I am not 20 years further into the ACTUAL movement of God’s love than just finally recovering enough to feel I can help people find a forgotten Jesus. (Whether taken off track by TWI or not.) Jesus is the savior and not a tag along after a prayer. “In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen” Who is that Jesus and what does his being the Christ mean to me personally? These are things I am responsible to know and discover. The counterfeit is a long ride to nowhere or to someplace dark. I am tired of the abyss, there is light and boy when you begin to research others healing ministries and read the Bilbe clearly– well I found God is the God we were seeking. I am sorry, I lost it in all the confusion. Praise God for seeing things now.

Ever find your strength in music? You are so "noisey" inside you cannot read, or affirm your way past the swirl? At those times I cling to songs. Which songs have helped you through what? This is mine right now God, My God I cry out Your beloved needs you now God be near Calm my fear And take my doubt Your kindness is what pulls me up Your love is all that draws me in Chorus: I will lift eyes To the maker of the mountains I can’t climb I will lift eyes To the calmer of the oceans raging wild I will lift my eyes To the healer of the hurt I hold inside I will lift my eyes, lift my eyes to You God, My God Let mercy sing Your melody over me And God right here All I’d bring is all of me Your kindness is what pulls me up Your love is all that draws me in Chorus Because you are and you were and you will be forever You’re all that I need to save me Because you fasten me up and You hold me together God So hold me now Chorus I will lift my eyes, lift my eyes to You God, My God I cry out Your beloved needs you now I Will Lift My Eyes Lyrics Artist(Band):Bebo Norman

Mini I am so sorry for your years of pain and that your parents are still in. Thank God you had what it took to leave. I send you cyber love and pray for your total healing. Dot

John Juedes: John Juedes saved my life via his walk with the TRUE God and his real love and kindness. I had my inner core of confidence pecked a way by VPW and his head harlot (aka pimp) After Ralph D came out to stay with me -- much of what he said validated what I had done and believed in my heart about VPW and his harlot was true and not insanity as TWI tried to FORCE me to believe or direct me to suicide. Then, I had a Bible I could not read as I only heard PFAL or VPW's thoughts when I would pick up the book. I would read the same area over and over with no light. Still weary and leery of traditional churches, I did not know how to shake myself of the layers of "wrongness" through which I desperately wanted to breathe free. John Juedes tenderly wrote back and forth via emails. He reached out with a kind understanding hand and loved me with the great love of God. He understood how dirty I felt – even though I had not engaged in the sexual deviance offered to me by VPW and his harlot. I was confused as to how I could get so delivered by the PFAL class and placed in bondage by the teachings of the same man. I found that VPW was a liar and a swindler – not by John’s words, but by his exposing the real VPW. He let me make a choice on the deception. Then, God graciously held my hand as I wrote a letter to John about all that went on with me “behind” the showmanship of the great Oz, oops VPW. And he posted it to help others – with my permission. Then, I was ready to come and post here. I learned from people like Evan, Sunesis and others who had first hand knowledge of the inner circle. From there I studied BG Leonard and spoke with people who studied under him like Tim Sullivan… Had people pray for me and give me the sweet love of Jesus like Greek2me…. Glory to God! Recently, in my still thirsty soul, I told God I wanted to get back to business. I had been Pentecostal prior to TWI. I had seen miracles and knew I had a call of service on me. Son of the Master appeared and he and his wife have been sharing stuff they have been researching while I was getting out of the painful, blinding hole I had fallen into. I can only offer public thanks to John for being so gentle and kind to a dying sister in Christ and offer praise to a glorious God who did not leave me in the hole, but heard me and offered me steps I could handle to climb out. Thanks to God and all of his people who truly love him. And to those that continue to defend the wolf in sheep’s clothing, I offer my condolences. Nothing feels better than shedding the lies and clinging to the truth that a God who can mold clay and make man – loves you. HE loves you. He loves you. You do not have to rip your pants off to SERVICE a Moggie, you do not have to do sexual kneeling for anyone. You do not have to be picked apart, placed in a fear coma or have your family destroyed. That would be the devil with a happy bumper sticker and an alluring nametag telling you we knew more than most of the preachers out there today. That arrogance and sidetracking from Jesus is what allowed the devil to suck God out of our lives, or at least to be confused and hurt while we tried to cling to both God and TWI as they are not synonymous. Thanks to all of you edited for typos

Sorry, I missed it as well. but that was very cool

I was gone Happy Birthday

Umm She is being funny, look at the size of the "cup"

OMG! I was so worried about you, please always check in. I even put you down in Friend search and we were waiting to hear.... I am full of joy to hear you are okay. We love you, ya know and miss you. War is not a nice place to be and a piece of our hearts are with you. I pray for God's protection around you and our troops. You are in Bagdad? What an awful place. Do you need anything? Pm me your address and short of a million dollar something, I will try and sent it to you? Puzzle books, pens, wipes? What do you need? I love Lillie Can you bring her home?

Joe I would love you if you worshipped your own big toe. I would not join in, however, but love you just the same.

Frank said Me too!

Matter of personal taste I think the sloping of a woman's back as nature had it, has a beauty of its own. Like Angelina Jolie prior to all the ink. I think a man's arms have a gorgeous appeal without pictures on them. But that is just me. My Father always said that his father told him - never get a tatoo as you can be identified by them. (Ya know like a young man getting into trouble, I guess) It is pretty Chas.

Yeah, I wouldn't even try if Joe was not such a good friend. I wanted to support him. He was such a NICE guy and he went through some mean old crap. Ya know, like a lot of us did. Well Joe, Great broadcast Sorry, I could not validate some of what you said. Not that you needed it. You did very well. Wonderful! Well, the hubs wants to use the phone

Pond Can you hear anything? What the heck, I am just listening

I clicked on chime in and nothing happened

there is an AM radio personality here in ATL. PAW sounds like him. Is he a DJ? I am not a computer geek -- but a computer freak -- ya know?

Okay so this is like listening to a radio show? I thought we could participate.