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Seriously, doesn't this bother anyone? He says be gentle Then exhorts himself and calls people who do not "get" his teachings -- stupid This is so typical of the TWI mind screw Like when I went to him to confront him about the adultry, free sex, sex with leaders is okay because you are sevicing them -- CRAP He told me, "whatsoever things are pure think on those things--" Like I did not get it "To the pure all things are pure" As if I was not pure because I thought the "antics" and "practices" were NOT pure therefore I was stupid and unpure... Otherwise, I would embrace his "ideas" He could not be corrected. Afterall, if you did not get his teachings YOU ARE STUPID. Yes, I can see how gentle you were with people who questioned you --- Geez

VERY WEALTHY And you'd think maybe he could have afforded a college with a credited Doctorate degree. It does not fit all the other things I thought we knew... I would enjoy my kife a bunch more if I could live in MT house and not pay taxes and have "other people" keep it up for me as well.

Question In Like an Eagle's post VP said the following" my question is was HE wealthy? Was he brought up in a wealthy family? Also, I thought TWI was the Kipp farm. Curious...

Didn’t this bother anyone else in that post of VP’s teaching? Does this not imply that if WE do not get his teachings we are STUPID? First of all, that is so arrogant it sickens me. Secondly, we know how “odd” some of his teachings were, such as the porn in the Christian Family and sex class. If we QUESTION anything, we are stupid If we do not get it We are stupid This seems to set up the premise that he can teach anything because he is so “apt to teach” that any questions are from the stupid people = anyone who asks a question. This pushes the “follow him blindly allegiance” which got girls into bed willingly. The unwilling ones is just crininal. And if one does not "get" his teaching - we are stupid... Then, right after this he says how patient he is with people ..... How patient is he when he thinks his audience, who does not get his teachings is stupid? Wouldn't it have been stated more like, "Not everyone is going to get everything. Be patient and gentle with them while trying to keep your teachings simple? Word Wolf did you catch that? Sunesis?

I got a car through them in the early 80's And I PAID them off, people didn't pay them back?

Hi! Nice to meet you and welcome!

Hi Steve Welcome to Greasespot I found your post interesting. Maybe you should put it down in Doctrinal so we can get "into" it. Looked at that site, I do not agree with it all, but down in doctrinal we can talk about it :)

Raf! I just love you!!! Congrats on the promo, the wedding all of it! But now I see said: "Let's face it, the law of believing never left much room for humility, it was all about entitlement, like so much of wierwille's doctrine, remember "demanding" what you needed at God's throne? " Yeah, like a vending machine God, I have a quater now I better get the candy.

Bow I wasn't speaking to you, just generally...

I am with Sunesis, Evan and whomever else believes he is all knowing. I b elieve he knew the story of time before time ever was and knows the futire after time is in the past. I know I get a headache when trying to picture God being present forever, being as I am limited by time, but I feel I am limited by time not him. In the begining God..... Not in the begining of God, but he was already around when time came into being.

Sushi, honey, do we need a snooty pan?

I betcha Rascal saw some dogs and wanted to befriend them like her "dogd" and they went after her. You said she loves water and would not leave the kids alone that were splashing in the pool.... I bet she tried to befried a dog that frightened her. Who knows how many little boys she flew to - thinking they were your child, only to be scooted off and yelled at. She is probably thinking she isn't sure if this time he is for real...

I love this A plan! Good job

Very strong points Socks, Amen.

God is awesome! Geez Why would praying for your bird not be important? God loves you and you love her... It is a miracle in my book And she left during a cold snap didn't she?

My speakers are out so I have not been there.

If the system does not change That could be your future All of our futures

ex70 This must have been a hard week on you then. I hope that things are better today. I am sure the post was not mean-spirited. I am sorry for your pain. Others: I do see how Satori's post illustrates some frightening facts about health care. For instance If I'm 88, and the doctor who prescribed the Coumadin examines me after a hard fall but doesn't order any follow-up tests, like a cat-scan at the very least, who's really brain-dead? Him or me? My Dad is on that drug and it is very dangerous and they do not follow-up properly with it. A friends’ mother died as the Coumadin had her brain leak blood and it killed her. And the ending comments about: I'll have to leave it up to others to find out. Our turn is right around the corner unless things change. But I have been seeing this POOR conduct for years. My mother was diagnosed with a flu and it was a heart attack in the 60’s. His post also makes me wonder if we are keeping people alive past “their time” Such as the man is okay, but then there is a litnay of ailments he has been enduring. I find it thought provoking, well written and presented.

PS A brief aside: :) RG: No offense, but the bottom of your posts have so much advertising they remind me of the old Dr. Bonner soap bottle It will not let me post the label Here is the link http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/images/dr...-soap-label.png http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm..._Magic_Soap.jpg :) with each post I make a mental note that I am out of peppermint and need to get some PS it is hours later, I see you have trimmed it down! :)

Sorry about your parents, but then you can probably relate to how the older Americans seem to fall low on the priority list. It is horrible For those worried about Satori You must have missed this He would not be able to write if he were in a coma. Your hearts are kind

He is not 88. I think this was posted as thought provoking with tongue in cheek humor. Satori has always been, to me anyway, an intelligent, witty, poignant poster. The point is a sad commentary of our medical system. I was once in the emergency room with a miscarriage and they called the Doc in, who seemed to have already changed into his golf clothes, and was heading out. He was rude and angry. Said some really mean thing about it NOT being a miscarriage. I KNEW it was and the other doctor did as well. I drove home in labor pains called my old gynocologist, she saw me, and threw me in the hospital immediately – could not even go home for clothes. Oh, it was a miscarriage. If I had waited three days, as the other doctor suggested, I would have had serious complications. That was all over what appeared to be a golf game.

W&W That does make sense - discernment will be the truth barometer

Catcup Those open ends would make me crazy. You can't hunt her down to ask now?

Imteresting take

More: Matthew 21:22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive. John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. John 16:24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full. 1 John 5:14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: Psalm 116:4 Then called I upon the name of the LORD; O LORD, I beseech thee, deliver my soul. Psalm 142:6 Attend unto my cry; for I am brought very low: deliver me from my persecutors; for they are stronger than I. 2 Kings 19:19 Now therefore, O LORD our God, I beseech thee, save thou us out of his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that thou art the LORD God, even thou only. Psalm 55:16 As for me, I will call upon God; and the LORD shall save me. Psalm 71:2 Deliver me in thy righteousness, and cause me to escape: incline thine ear unto me, and save me. W & W Cman Waysider Rascal everyone Thanks