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Numbers 30 2If a man vow a vow unto the LORD, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth God is balanced and his word (from what I see) is balanced So when do you break a vow? If he that vows a vow is written in granite? What if the vow made BEFORE God was to keep a promise God never wanted us to make – Such as in anger – you touch me again “I vow before God I will kill you!” So, now a vow before God has been made. Does one HAVE to keep it? Some things I am thinking about…. Marriage: made in youth to a dangerous spouse made as an “arranged” marriage as some cultures practice made in sin (as outlined Biblically, sex before marriage is what I am thinking here) and turns out to have been temporary lust? But you vowed a vow DOES GOD EXPECT YOU TO KEEP THESE VOWS? OR do we get out of balance in our thinking, our religious “backbone” gets stiff and indignant and we forget the two commandments Matthew 22:36-40. 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments" Try to suppress these and the very rocks will cry them out to you. WHAT IS THE LAW OF THE PROPHETS – HERE ARE SOME Found in Exodus 20:3-8,12-17 2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. 7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. 12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. 13 Thou shalt not kill. 14 Thou shalt not commit adultery. 15 Thou shalt not steal. 16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. 17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his foot, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.. Found in Exodus 34; 12 Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee: 13 But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves: 14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God: 15 Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice; 16 And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods. 17 Thou shalt make thee no molten gods. 18 The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep. Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, as I commanded thee, in the time of the month Abib: for in the month Abib thou camest out from Egypt. 19 All that openeth the matrix is mine; and every firstling among thy cattle, whether ox or sheep, that is male. 20 But the firstling of an foot thou shalt redeem with a lamb: and if thou redeem him not, then shalt thou break his neck. All the firstborn of thy sons thou shalt redeem. And none shall appear before me empty. 21 Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in earing time and in harvest thou shalt rest. 22 And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end. 23 Thrice in the year shall all your men children appear before the Lord GOD, the God of Israel. 24 For I will cast out the nations before thee, and enlarge thy borders: neither shall any man desire thy land, when thou shalt go up to appear before the LORD thy God thrice in the year. 25 Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven; neither shall the sacrifice of the feast of the passover be left unto the morning. 26 The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk. found in Deuteronomy 5: 6 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 7 Thou shalt have none other gods before me. 8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: 9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me, 10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments. 11 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. 12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee. 13 Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work: 14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine foot, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou. 15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day. 16 Honour thy father and thy mother, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. 17 Thou shalt not kill. 18 Neither shalt thou commit adultery. 19 Neither shalt thou steal. 20 Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbor. 21 Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbor's wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbor's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his foot, or any thing that is thy neighbor's. NUMBER’S 30 1And Moses spake unto the heads of the tribes concerning the children of Israel, saying, This is the thing which the LORD hath commanded. 2If a man vow a vow unto the LORD, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth. 3If a woman also vow a vow unto the LORD, and bind herself by a bond, being in her father's house in her youth; 4And her father hear her vow, and her bond wherewith she hath bound her soul, and her father shall hold his peace at her; then all her vows shall stand, and every bond wherewith she hath bound her soul shall stand. 5But if her father disallow her in the day that he heareth; not any of her vows, or of her bonds wherewith she hath bound her soul, shall stand: and the LORD shall forgive her, because her father disallowed her. 6And if she had at all an husband, when she vowed, or uttered ought out of her lips, wherewith she bound her soul; 7And her husband heard it, and held his peace at her in the day that he heard it: then her vows shall stand, and her bonds wherewith she bound her soul shall stand. 8But if her husband disallowed her on the day that he heard it; then he shall make her vow which she vowed, and that which she uttered with her lips, wherewith she bound her soul, of none effect: and the LORD shall forgive her. 9But every vow of a widow, and of her that is divorced, wherewith they have bound their souls, shall stand against her. 10And if she vowed in her husband's house, or bound her soul by a bond with an oath; 11And her husband heard it, and held his peace at her, and disallowed her not: then all her vows shall stand, and every bond wherewith she bound her soul shall stand. 12But if her husband hath utterly made them void on the day he heard them; then whatsoever proceeded out of her lips concerning her vows, or concerning the bond of her soul, shall not stand: her husband hath made them void; and the LORD shall forgive her. 13Every vow, and every binding oath to afflict the soul, her husband may establish it, or her husband may make it void. 14But if her husband altogether hold his peace at her from day to day; then he establisheth all her vows, or all her bonds, which are upon her: he confirmeth them, because he held his peace at her in the day that he heard them. 15But if he shall any ways make them void after that he hath heard them; then he shall bear her iniquity. 16These are the statutes, which the LORD commanded Moses, between a man and his wife, between the father and his daughter, being yet in her youth in her father's house. BACK TO THE DISCUSSION: He that vows a vow – Who can live up to the law? IT is impossible. So, God sent us a savior and whittled the commandments down to this Matthew 22:36-40. 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments" IF all the law of the prophets hangs on these commandments then when is it okay to break a vow— IF breaking it does not make me break the above commandments. If I divorce because I lust after another – then I am not loving my neighbor (spouse) as myself. If my spouse turns to witchcraft, which I am opposed to, then I think the prior VOW I made can be broken --- I can get out. If the spouse causes you bodily, huge emotional or mental harm – I think the vow of marriage can be broken. If the spouse has cancer and leaves to prevent your financial destruction - that is noble -- seems acceptable I do not see these vows as etched in stone- not pliable – but rather as a guideline where we make decisions based on the commandments of the NT. Matthew 22:36-40. 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments" Do we stay in a marriage when it is harmful? I always had a problem with loving my neighbor as myself – because I seemed to love “my neighbor” more than I loved MYSELF. So, my commitments were out of balance. I did not have healthy boundaries. There comes a point where you have to use these things as guidelines rather than A VOW –that if broken one feels that God will no longer love them…. Which THINKING is at odds with this: God will never leave you or forsake you... You were called before the foundations of the world... For God so loved the World that he gave his only begotten son - that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but have everlasting life It appears that if the VOW made is WRONG we are not required to keep it, but to repent of our sin, and do the right thing... Which reads differently in the NT than in the OT The OT holding LAWS which are impossible for us humans to handle -- Thus Jesus Christ had to do it for us There is an admirable way to divorce (break vows in the larger sense) for right reasons that the Lord would not object to – IMO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? Added to reinsert spaces that got out of line
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For many reasons I think this book is worth mentioning on this thread The Sociopath Next Door from the book jacket: Who is the devil you know? Is it your lying, cheating ex-husband? Your sadistic high school gym teacher? Your boss who loves to humiliate people in meetings? The colleague who stole your idea and passed it off as her own? In the pages of The Sociopath Next Door, you will realize that your ex was not just misunderstood. He's a sociopath. And your boss, teacher, and colleague? They may be sociopaths too. We are accustomed to think of sociopaths as violent criminals, but in The Sociopath Next Door, Harvard psychologist Martha Stout reveals that a shocking 4 percent of ordinary people—one in twenty-five—has an often undetected mental disorder, the chief symptom of which is that that person possesses no conscience. He or she has no ability whatsoever to feel shame, guilt, or remorse. One in twenty-five everyday Americans, therefore, is secretly a sociopath. They could be your colleague, your neighbor, even family. And they can do literally anything at all and feel absolutely no guilt. How do we recognize the remorseless? One of their chief characteristics is a kind of glow or charisma that makes sociopaths more charming or interesting than the other people around them. They're more spontaneous, more intense, more complex, or even sexier than everyone else, making them tricky to identify and leaving us easily seduced. Fundamentally, sociopaths are different because they cannot love. Sociopaths learn early on to show sham emotion, but underneath they are indifferent to others' suffering. They live to dominate and thrill to win. The fact is, we all almost certainly know at least one or more sociopaths already. Part of the urgency in reading The Sociopath Next Door is the moment when we suddenly recognize that someone we know—someone we worked for, or were involved with, or voted for—is a sociopath. But what do we do with that knowledge? To arm us against the sociopath, Dr. Stout teaches us to question authority, suspect flattery, and beware the pity play. Above all, she writes, when a sociopath is beckoning, do not join the game. It is the ruthless versus the rest of us, and The Sociopath Next Door will show you how to recognize and defeat the devil you know.
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My chow mixes are very smart My peke's are medium - not dumb but not real smart --- they are cute so they get by on their looks :)
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Thanks Ralph, you have always been and continue to be my hero. One question???? What the F is an estimated prophet?
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I got "Urine off" wholesale through the vet - it was expensive - but it worked. Unsure about the products of which you speak. May want to see if they break down the rug -- Type in the name and bad stuff - like hate - don't use - bad and see if anyone wrote a negative review
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Boy corruption can really kill people Then, for them to say that long term Lyme is nonexistant Making those that suffered - to remain untreated and NOT believed... Is criminal
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Hap that is a good idea.
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All the Women in the Kingdom Belong to the King
Dot Matrix replied to Nottawayfer's topic in About The Way
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Linda I am so sorry. First of all time number 2 - the worst one -- The neighbors did not let you sit in their home? Geez Ahd the lock smith sends out a direction impaired idiot with no tools? Nightmare That is an awful story, I am so sorry you had to live through that.
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We used to have a damaged store here named Jordan's. Then people stopped going there. It closed :( Bride What is its name maybe one of those is around here - or near other posters trying to save?
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Rhino UTTO This sounds serious. Maybe I should just call the x-hubs and ask what he did.
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Steveo: I may not eat the way others do -- In the morning I do a KAshi protein bar or oatmeal Lunch I make a tuna or salmon salad sandwich and take it for lunch and have a couple cherry tomatoes for dessert. My tuna( salmon) salad One can albacore (tastes better), in water I add veggies, chop baby carrots, celery, onions, a little zuchinni and butter squash, a little bit apple all choped small sometimes I use almond slivers if I can afford saltless almonds - 1 hard boiled egg, fat free mayo -- then I toast some 9 grain bread, lettuse on both sides and make my sandwich. -- you may want to skip the egg Dinner mostly veggies. I take a whole zuchinni squash, butter squash, some asparagus, two cloves of garlic, onion, shatake mushrooms or portabella, red or green pepper sliced up - whichever is on sale --- olive oil in pan and stir fry it up. (For a little tang - balsmic vinegrette) Then, maybe one piece of chicken or salmon. That is dinner. I either chop it into the veggies or have it on the side. Vegtables are my main course and the protein is the side dish. Or if - as I got at Aldi's -- a pack of peppers - I will make a stuffed pepper - hamberger and a little rice with sauce for dinner Snack might be a handful of blueberries -- or another apple from the bag that has the apple I use for the tuna I buy mostly veggies, frozen fish, chicken breasts,I got a box of Edy's popcicles for a different snack. Then, for something different I found some chinese orange chicken on sale . Next, for a beef once-in-a-while dinner, I made taco salad. So, I had lettuce - the same veggies above and did about 1/2 pound of beef with taco seasoning - you can do a couple pounds and freeze it for next week. I only drink water - cheaper and better than soda. Juice really elevates your sugar - so if I DO juice it is organic berry juice - on sale
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hahaha That was funny, New Knoxville Our own ROA thingy... Paw Your comfortable inviting place has given me anwers and stopped the spinning questions from controlling my mind. I am so thankful for your efforts and labor of love... I hope you will always keep the doors open. With love, Dot
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Ron our land has a lot of clay and rock, we did the garden thing for 14 years and never had anything much but dead plants Then he bought tubs and filled them with good rich dirt, put them in the front by the garage and we had lots of veggies Stiill need to know the garden tool to buy Seth: - That makes me NEVER want to buy there again :(
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That was really weird
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Thanks! To hubs if you read this To you"
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The thing at the top says http://www.wisesales.com/EchoBrushCutter.html Brush cutter Does that sound like what I need?
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Thanks Jef
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Goat sounds good Jef- No I do not have anyone near or men I know here to ask Taks a guess- on what you think I need I will not hurt myself Like at the bottom of the page here at GS http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000087R4E?smid=A...mp;linkCode=asn Will this cut sapplings or only thick grass? or this? http://www.tylertool.com/blanddegh14g.html Is it strong enough? The mower may hit rocks and break the blades This thing I can hold up in the air better
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It is woodsy Skinny new born sapplings, thick weird grass, rocks, brush etc. He used the mower some, the sickle thingy some and other things... I do not have the money to buy all that stuff... I need a one thing - thing ---- that might help me sheer this stuff down. Yes, there is sumac, oak and posion ivy and Bumps of fire ants Snakes as well, mostly black Maybe I can save my money and hire someone once a month - I forgot about the snakes The back yard is about 3/4 of an acre maybe
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Lucy I appreciate your lovely answer as I have appreciated all the answers. I am glad you found true love. I have always had a boyfriend or man in my life. I have wanted to be alone before and work on my own desires. Funny, but that seems to make men want to be in my life – MORE. I am really not wavering. I do miss the good parts of my husband and marriage but I do not want any part of the pain the risk of a union can bring. My point is through the years many have gone “looking here” and “else where” shortly BEFORE a divorce, and shortly after a divorce. I DO NOT HAVE THAT DESIRE or NEED in me to look. I was wondering if anyone else felt that way – the risk is not worth the possibility of a bad ending. I think George is living what I am living – perhaps it is shell shock – or maybe survival. I do not know. But the need to look, the expectations of “finding someone” the desire to get on here “seeking” is not in me. I have seen it in others. I just do not have “it” and wondered if anyone else did NOT feel the need to look, the desire to search, or the motivation to “try again”. I thank everyone for their love and support and perhaps seeing my future with a person who loves me – thank you for your visions and great stories. But I have no desire… I am unplugged from all of that. I am in a holding pattern of some kind and I like the feeling. Wondering if anyone else is in “that” place. Grateful to God for others who are in a different place and the love stories they have shared.
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Any other deals out there?
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In the back yard - it is woodsy and needs to be trimmed down. I think hubs had used one of those blades like John Belushi in the Samari comedy things he did -- Anywho, I need to know what I need to cut that stuff down, what is a Good brand of whatever it is and how to use it. Would I need- Would it be a brush trimmer? A string trimmer? A sword? Sickle thing? Or a cheap lawn boy? Looking for advice The lawn springs forth weeds, things like new lpttle trees, the under brush of the forest, it is rough out there.