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BG Leonard's book "foundations"/Plagiarism
Dot Matrix replied to Dot Matrix's topic in About The Way
Look, I am going to share some personal things to make a point. You do not have to read them. I share them so Oldies man Knows where I am coming from. The reason, I believe it is so hard for people to recognize what a louse VPW was, is because they got delivered in the PFAL class. I also had great deliverance. Took out personal stuff! [This message was edited by Dot Matrix on December 01, 2003 at 5:13.] -
BG Leonard's book "foundations"/Plagiarism
Dot Matrix replied to Dot Matrix's topic in About The Way
Amen Evan! The man who ministered to me was a Leonard graduate. He prayed over the phone from Greece for me. The medical community could not see what was going on and he called FROM GREECE and hit it right on the money and I got healed! Which of Leonard's books teach on healing? -
BG Leonard's book "foundations"/Plagiarism
Dot Matrix replied to Dot Matrix's topic in About The Way
Hahahahaha Raf, I do love it! Unreal. Why do these people cling blindly to a horror story? Gosh, wake up admit you were duped and keep looking! Is it pride? They cannot admit they were wrong? I have never seen such blind head strong people in my life. I was WRONG to believe in Santa, the Easter Bunny and in a Hallowed farm in Ohio with a Holy man who saw a storm and got a promise from God! Not so hard to say. -
BG Leonard's book "foundations"/Plagiarism
Dot Matrix replied to Dot Matrix's topic in About The Way
I got it Raf. Give me a minute. I posted it in Help the PFAL class is stolen. Here, the Promise to BG Leonard "One day God spoke to me. "If thou wilt wait patiently before me, I will give thee the revelation concerning that which is written in my Word touching these things; the revelation my people need to bring them out of their chaos and confusion." I believed God. For months I waited before His presence in solitude. During those wonderful days, He revealed the truth to me concerning the gifts of the Spirit. As He did, these things were proven by acting upon the knowledge thus received, and by examining the results in light of His Word." -
BG Leonard's book "foundations"/Plagiarism
Dot Matrix replied to Dot Matrix's topic in About The Way
OM and M - It's not plagerism? So, Weirwille can change a word, add a word or delete a word... Sounds like what he told us the devil did to Eve in Genisis. Even if you do not want to call it plagerism, what do you want to call it? What are you comfortable with? Copied it "almost" word for word? The point is he did not research this, get a special promise from God and invent the class. Leonard GOT a promise from God, researched it and started a class... Not sure of what the hang up is? Bottom line VPW took his info from Leonard, changed the promise from God slightly, altered a few words, and claimed he got all this info from God! That is not an honorable thing to do. It is despicable for a man who was suppose to represent GOD, to steal another man who did represent God's work and sell it as his own. Why is this concept so hard to get? When my husband worked in California, he did research on an idea he had. He had a few people fax over some info to support the idea. This guy, his nemisis, heard him on the phone and stood at the fax machine. When my husband went to the fax he saw the tail end of Fred walking into the President's office. Suspicious, he placed himself in ear shot and heard Fred hand "Robert" all the information and present my hub's idea as his own. IT'S JUST WRONG. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. So, if plagerism bothers you then how about unethical? Dishonorable? Liar? Pick another word. Just not MOG or author. -
What are fifth columnists? Why were we knifing them? That is weird! Rascal Each time I hear your story it rips me up. ((((Rascal))))
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BG Leonard's book "foundations"/Plagiarism
Dot Matrix replied to Dot Matrix's topic in About The Way
That is how I see it, HE KNEW! -
BG Leonard's book "foundations"/Plagiarism
Dot Matrix replied to Dot Matrix's topic in About The Way
Imablvr If you read it again you will see he speaks of it being photocopied and videos... So THAT letter had to be written after their inventions, so yeah, I BET he KNEW! -
BG Leonard's book "foundations"/Plagiarism
Dot Matrix replied to Dot Matrix's topic in About The Way
I immediatley thought BG KNEW VP did it! First Published 1949 Canada 1966 Unabridged 1970 1997- this one Raf was going to copy a page from BG and a page from VP and show how they are near the same, in the Holy Spirit book. (I think it will be in the doctrine area) -
Are the stars out tonight? I don't know if it's cloudy or bright Its got to be your birthday! To one of the smartest men I know! Zixar!!!!
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BG Leonard's book "foundations"/Plagiarism
Dot Matrix replied to Dot Matrix's topic in About The Way
M&A Boy, you sinner! How dare you think? How dare you be funny without permission! Whatever were you thinking? ;)--> (I think what you said was a riot!) -
BG Leonard's book "foundations"/Plagiarism
Dot Matrix replied to Dot Matrix's topic in About The Way
Okay, First, Roy you are so meek/great. (Hate to use that word, searched for another but it fits) YOU SEE what is going on and you move ahead with new knowledge. You are meek enough to say oh well, I thought VP did a good job but if he stole it, that was wrong now let's go find out what the real author wrote! I love that about you and that is what ticks me off about Mike HE NEVER EVER EVER considers that VPW could ever do anything wrong. ((((Roy)))) Now THE EVAN! I was howling with laughter And also it blew my mind that he screamed at someone who took Leonard's class? WOW, it still shocks me that I sat in meetings like that (not that one) and did not leave. Greek2me I am enjoying it! The book kinda dropped out of heaven and landed here for me! :)--> I do think folks who have an unrealistic view of VP and "The Great fore head" need to have it said over again that VP plagiarized. Some just do not get it, but others are reading this for the first time and they need to hear it! Greek2 me - What book would you recommend next? How do I take a Tim Sullivan class (Tim was taught by Leonard)? How would an interested party find a class in the states? Looks like a lot of activity is in Europe! When I spoke with Sister Evelyn (Leonard's wife) she said I would have TO GO there for the class because they help people see their ministries that God has called them to do. Their place. I thought that was so neat to build people up with what "they can and want to do" rather than have them acknowledge some leader and learn obedience to them. (Like TWI) How cool reminded me of what I saw on the field before the corps came along and wrecked it all. Greek2 me and Evan, can you tell us a little about Leonard's ministry and share your thoughts? We can talk about the other as well, but please if you would like to share go ahead and those still desiring to discuss the topic can as well. -
Yeah, it is colorful both with pictures and content! Having fun! Wish we had known each other better in the corps! We know how to throw a party!
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Just saw this! Happy b-lated!
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Well, if you stay there you can use my net hat for the bugs But you may want mime friend to help out as well.
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TGN You may want to move your tent over a few feet!
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Vickles do you want to go in the tent or stay up with Ex and I for some girl talk?
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TGN DAM N boy, those are some briefs! They should be called "pantaloons" or a space ship! Well, the kids can use my spray!
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BG Leonard's book "foundations"/Plagiarism
Dot Matrix replied to Dot Matrix's topic in About The Way
MJ That was inspired! You go girl! Geoy - great points, especially the shove it part! :D--> Steve had him (*) yesterday! I guess we all think alike on this anymore, it gets old. Oldies - I never heard VPW advocate taking BG's class either. Had he have done so I am sure we lemmings would have all taken it. (I know I would have). But then we would have seen where PFAL came from, so he couldn't. Jeff I only saw him say "he did not write the book" referring to the Bible as well. Yang - yes, run like the wind it is a C U L T leader! Itchley- Good to see you! Where have you been sweetie? Wafernot and White dove thanks for the support! -
BG Leonard's book "foundations"/Plagiarism
Dot Matrix replied to Dot Matrix's topic in About The Way
Shaz! WOW! Stiles also spoke of how his work was stolen? Wow! -
BG Leonard's book "foundations"/Plagiarism
Dot Matrix replied to Dot Matrix's topic in About The Way
Thanks all, good points! Again, (((((everyone))))) (except Mike) -
Here we go: TGN Did you bring a tent or do you want to yak all night with us?
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Ex That sounds like fun! Did you bring bug spray? You know how I hate bugs.
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Ex Put your tent next to mine!