Dot Matrix

It was my understanding that this was the era where Ralph and some of the others went to LCM and did confront him and did try to recalim the ministry. Some who did not actually go, were in support of Ralph and others. (Perhaps, I do not know, VF was among the supporters) Anyone know? It has been so long, my time frame maybe off and if that is so I apologize.

Sunesis Amen! Mccarroll Most of us struggled with what you share. Funny story, my corps sister was a waitress on her interim year and was put on probation by her boss... Why? She was reproving all of her customers. She honestly felt it was the right thing to do and thought she was doing God's will. Can you imagine, you had a rough day, you go to lunch and the waitress starts to confront you on areas of improvement? We were "programmed" to be nutty. Writing this, I now recall, I am guilty of the same thing. Oh my Gosh! I was waitressing (so I could move the word full time and all). It was a Mexican place. Anyway, I walked by this table and asked if they needed any more salsa. They said "no" and they had 3 bowls of it. I then went and got the food for the table next to them. The guy from the table with the three bowls called me over and said, "We need more salsa." Instead of my getting it -- Oh mmmmyyyyy! I argued with him. I pointed out that I had asked him if he needed any just two minutes ago. Now, he had to wait until I was finished with my current table. Then, I looked at the bowls - still having some salsa in them, and said, "you have enough to hold you." And you know what? To me, I was just being honest and bold. Truth? I was being mean, critical and destructive. And I did not even SEE the difference.... [This message was edited by Dot Matrix on March 22, 2004 at 11:08.]

I love dust bunnies and keep them as pets now that I can not afford a maid.

Catcup I am so sorry that happened to that poor guy. So, he got rid of all of things and they still M&A'd him? Makes me want to kick some a$s...

Did you try a pet shop? We had fake birds in there. Also a Craft shop. I like Mstar's idea.

Mccarroll "I don’t know how to be compassionate. But then there is a double standard with me. When they start to confront me, I always come back with a rebuttal. But wasn’t that how we were taught in TWI?" The GREATEST thing I learned since leaving TWI is that word of God is the "living word" it is alive and it can speak to you. (Forget that private interpretation stuff for a minute) Ask God to reach you and give you a heart of compassion and love, tell him to speak to you via the Bible and your environment. From your heart ask him to give you depth. And he will. Via TWI, I used to think if I saw something wrong it became my responsibility to CORRECT it. Like that is what God expected of me. One day, after begging God for some growth in that area I re-read the serenity prayer: God grant me the serenity To accept the things I cannot change; Courage to change the things I can; And wisdom to know the difference. I realized, in The Way, I learned how to have the courage to change the things I can but I had NEVER had "the serenity to accept the things I cannot change" Because somehow in the Way we thought we could change everything and we felt responsible to DO it. I asked God to show me how to have "the serenity to accept the things I cannot change" And the wisdom to know the difference. My husband will NEVER use a hamper as long as he has a floor. We can argue everyday or I can accept it and just pick up the dang clothes. (It is part of the reason I hardly go on the Mike thread's anymore.... smile)

Funny, but I witnessed to someone. I was no longer in TWI and did not know where to direct her. So, I told her about CES. The funny thing was, before she met me, she knew almost nothing about God. I asked her what kind of Bible she had and she responded "green". Then, she goes to a Momentus class and hangs with CES for a couple of weeks. (less than 30 days) She then turns on ME and tells me horrible stuff. She told me I needed to STAND even though TWI was over for me and called me a Bible coward.... She was so mean. I told her she better shut the phock up, who the helI did she think she was speaking to? then, I calmed down and asked her what happened to her? She said nothing was wrong with her she was doing/providing, "iron sharpeneth iron" This past year Joyce Meyer taught on that whole thing and it was different then the TWI concept of being "mean". I contacted Joyce's ministry to ask for that teaching but they did not know what sermon it was included in. Raf, maybe you know or WW what the real meaning is. Because to me, via TWI, that whole iron sharpeneth iron thing is a license to be rotten and intolerant of people and that is not what the fruits of the spirit are. love; joy; peace; patience; kindness; goodness; faithfulness; gentleness; self-control. So, therefore I believe we were taught the iron thing incorrectly. (being taught it was a grating against each other sounds caustic or acromonious.) If memory serves and it has been bad of late, Joyce spoke about it in the context of when two of you are excited about the Bible and share what you are seeing. It was not meant to pound each other. Like if I read a scripture and see it in a new wonderful light and I share it and that person happens to have seen something as well... IT is a cool thing. The perversion, of course, would be to make it into something "mean". [This message was edited by Dot Matrix on March 24, 2004 at 17:24.]

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He WAS from Allentown do you want to e-mail him as well? I will PT you.

Geoy- Ex: For years I had a maid. It was wonderful and I think every working woman should have one. I am wondering -- scince she cleaned MY refrigerator top, does that mean she or I has the clean fluffy?

Johnny -- Allentown PA

Kreebs knows of the site as I have mentioned a few times through the years and he was not interested. They have walked away from TWI and have a very active and full life. He has his PHD now and is smart as ever. Patty and he are happy and just had their 20th anniversary. Paul? I talked to him about 10 (?) years ago, on another site I saw his wife "Nancy". I told Kreebs that someone was looking for Paul and he passed along the info. WB Check your PT.

WB PT

WOW It is that time of year again! To say happy birthday! Love to you-- Or to quote the song "To sir with love..."

They had a fire in the area where they lived and had to evacuate. She posted for us to pray and we all did and nothing of hers was burned or destroyed. But then she had this neck thing. Back to Back crap and she has been on my heart and in my prayers. I was wondering if anyone knew how she was.

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Thank you for sharing that. (((Kay)))

Daryl Thank you for sharing your story. I am glad you left TWI and I hope you are happy.

I will change it again! thanks

(((cafegirl))) Nobody should be torn between their parents and a "church" (so to speak) How awful! Glad you are out!

Is that how you spell it? i will change it. Thanks

I love so many things said here-- I really love this: "The face of evil is convinced he is entitled."

The Evan And Suesis Things they shared changed my life.

???? Anyone know how she is? Last we heard she had some troubles with her neck right after that fire.... [This message was edited by Dot Matrix on March 18, 2004 at 18:26.]

Happy birthday!!!!