thanks. I figured they were. They were my branch coordinators before I left. Real good at the confrontation, except that first they taught me how to think (because I was really screwed up when I first started going) but I learned to well, so they would confront me on why I would make decisions without consulting them. I remember finally asking, "well, how spiritually mature do I have to be before I can start making my own decision?" I left after the stupid Rosilie became the head after they all defending Martindale for so long. what hypocrisy (sp?)!