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well you dont join you just come. and the reason to come is for the word of GOD that is taught. i grew up roman catholic and quit going cause i didnt learn anything about GOD. was told about these fellowships in 1980 went and started learning about GOD. there have ben some really mean and nasty ego headed people in leadership positions in the past and we finally got them out. i was away from the way on 2 ocasions but came back for the bible that is taught. the way has FINALLY turned into a great ministry.there isnt any brain washing no one is forced to go in fact if you are just coming to take up room and dont want to learn the bible then dont come.as far as mind control exactly what do you mean. me learning how to control my mind like an airforce fighter pilot does or a cop does or the president of the u.s. does. if you dont like what you hear you leave and you dont come back its that simple.everything that is taught comes from the bible unlike the roman catholic church which says take it by faith. fortunatly i wasnt raped by some priest and yes i was an alter boy!! i dont know what your friends experiences with the way are but he either likes what he hears and comes or he doesnt. you dont join and there is no membership,you just come and here the bible once or twice a week or whenever for about an hour.its really up to the individual to STUDY the bible own there own at home or wherever. my question is what kind of an intellegent person would go to the roman catholic church? my dad for one ,he was a baptist a long time ago and a few years back started going to the rc . hes never ben to a way fellowship, and probably never will , i'm still shocked the he even goes to a church cause he didnt go for over 30 years. you say your friend is a good person, well thats part of living according to GODS word. GODS word teaches you HOW to be a good person,YOU have to do it ,GOD will not do it for you and i am certainally not gonna follow someone around and do it for them, i got enough things to do like work on my hot rod car,practice my drums,type this sort of stuff on my computer,drink coffee,talk on the phone ,go to the movies to see iron man,etc,etc. as far as reaching the maturation of my faculties well i'v ben playing drums over 35 years i'm 50 now and like what the late great drummer buddy rich said not long before he died i'm still learning to play the drums,and i'm still learning GODS word and HOW to apply it in my life. there were some very bad times in the way brought about by corrupt ,mean ,self serving,ego headed, only care about themselves,people that were in leadership positions but they are long gone. this ministry has changed so much in the last 7 years you could call it a DIFFERENT ministry. we will not tolerate ANY who is corrupt. they will be thrown out. people didnt speak up before and as it says in the book of peter in the bible there shall be false ministers that shall come in among you, we keep a watchful eye these days and we will never allow that again. i come for the bible that is taught. there are other groups that teach the bible also but the way is where i go. go with your friend and check it out for yourself.

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victims ?? thats like saying monica was a victim of bill clinton,hillary was the victim. monica freely gave herself to clinton. these women gave themselves to martindale . they along with with lcm committed adultry. if lcm had raped them he would be in jail. this is what is called an affair. i dont care what those women say if lcm didnt rape them than they did it by there free will. if they didint want to do it why didnt they resist ,say no ,report it,leave,call the cops,tell there husbands. these women are just as much at fault as lcm.thay should never have gotten 1 cent. they must have gotten a good lawyer. however it was probably cheaper in the long run for twi to settle than go to trial. i could care a less about these women or martindale they are all at fault. the only ones i have compassion for are the families of the married ones and donna martindale and kids.good riddance let them eat dirt!!! p.s. by the way! i'd bet if lcm had found out that a SINGLE guy and a SINGLE gal had a fling they would have ben thrown out IMMEDIATLY!!!! hypocrite!!!!

dispite ALL the stuff that happeded in twi in a way its very small compared to the way iv ben treated by some of the companies iv worked for. until recently i worked as an electrical foreman. (i am a job supervisor now) construction work can be ruthless,employers wanting the cheapest labor and expecting we the foreman to micromanage. anyway the electrical foreman always catches hell. i know a few guys who will not work as foreman anymore, i decided to become stronger and am no longer affected by other peoples crap. you got to rise above that stuff. computers on the other hand are great!! look at all these neat websites we can visit. until 2 years ago my only experience was with the library computer buying something on ebay,or trying to find drums. then i bought a computer and with practice and surfing and trying different things i learned how to navigate the web. sometimes i spend several hours on the web looking up things. just keep surfing the web goin to different places looking up information ,etc. remember to to delete your browsing cookies. click on tools,click on internet options, click on delete cookies,cookies can slow your computer down. i also experemented with all my settings ,you can always return to factory settings,after a while a computer will become a breeze to operate. i built 3 computers one of which i am typing on right now.

up until about two years ago i had always told all my friends i didnt need a computer , had absolutly no use for one , then went looking for a real cheap new computer , bought a compaq for $399 got a 100 dollar rebate ,used it for a year ,than decided i wanted a faster one with more stuff, looked around, didint find what i wanted, i am an electrician, have my own pa for my band, build hot rod cars, got to thinking(ouch my head) , reasearched different computer components on the web to find out what was right for me ,went to frys electronics store (why would someone name an electronics store frys ??!!! thats like that company named fried that makes speakers. do you sell fried speakers????!!!! fried electronics!!!) got some stuff and build this super fast computer. than built a duplicate, than built a smaller one, none of them are fried yet, imagine that !!!!

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lived next to a 70 something year old lady and she would walk out in her back yard and sunbath nude !!!! the first time i saw her i almost died of fright!!!!! oh what sights you see in southern cal. !!!!! and what sights you hope you never see !!!!

do not click on this!!!! all it did was call me a dork!!!!!! i am not a dork !!!! i'm a 1-d-1-0-t !!!!!!!

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first remember the devil the angel of light he and his bunch can apear as light, top secret military stuff, ever taken helium ballons and tied glow sticks, i knew some kids that did, oriental wedding candles tied to helium ballons. p.s. my spelin aint very good!!!!!

why does my moon have craters??? and lots of them!!!!!

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this MAN, not a god, just a man ,HURT so many people,abused his power,committed adultry,lied,decieved,developed an enormos EGO, and ran lots of people off for absolutly no reason. martindale wanted a CLEAN and PURE household (even though he was committing adultry and himself impure!!!)and ran off people that were dealing with problems in there life needed help from others and that had a ginuine desire desire to know GOD!!!this man reaped what he sowed!!!!he along with the Lallys ruined so many lives that whatever life brings them are there consequences!!!! i started fellowshipping in 1980,was KICKED out in 1998 because i had a fear,and was also overcoming another challenge in my life. the bastard branch guy that kicked me out quit shortly afterwards and to this day is not around, of corse he got his orders from martindale!!!! i had weakness and lcm didnt want anyone with weakness!!! well **** martindale and the lallys!!! i came back in 2001 ,lived with leadership( the most loving ,caring, willing to help me people i'v ever known). they helped me overcome my problems.they told me i never should have kicked out.they informed me that ALL the bad leadership had ben weeded out and no bad leaders would ever be allowed again. people have to speek up if there is a bad leader so they can be delt with.in peter it says there SHALL be false teachers that shall come in among you,you have to get rid of them!!!! i went way disciple 2003-2004 and had a great time!!! i was also a wow twice 81-82 & 83-84.this ministry has come a long way the last 7 years and i plan on staying and i and the rest will guard against evil creeping in!!! i am here to research,learn, fellowship,and help others with GODS WORD!!! GOD bless you all

well groucho i'm a stupid and gullible moronic fool for even thinking that i could pray to GOD for a new 2006 ford f350 diesel dually crew cab long bed pickup truck and actually believe GOD would supply it cause i dont have the money for it and i have never believed in bummin money and that goes back to the 1980's before twi started sayin git outa debt!!but guess what ! i did just that and someone bought me the above truck brand new from the ford dealer,he paid cash!!! i needed a truck (need) and i wanted (want)the type of truck mentioned above. i didnt need dually rear wheels, no one rides in the back seat but i prayed and i got it. i have gotten lots of other stuff over the years by praying to GOD having my want and need parellel! do i need an f650 ? no! could i recieve an f650 from GOD? probably not. i would have to have a commercial drivers license to legally drive it ,expensive commercial insurance,dot registration,it would be a real pain and beyond my need. could i just go out and buy it myself? shure you can do what you want.lets say i have a cessena 172 4 seat airplane and i pray for a bae146 airplane, in my case i would not recieve it from god it is beyond my need , but i could go buy it myself and than wonder what the hell did i just do!!! its very simple and i just explained it . there is no parellel intersecting lines, do you need a house? if you only NEED 4 bedrooms than thats what you pray for, and not 5 or more,it is very simple. as far as dual rear wheels go it mkes the truck extreamly stable in the rear,6 wheels breaking instead of 4,and is the safest way to pull a trailer due to stability.if you think wierwille wanted to see how stupid we are why the hell did he USE up his life doin it? he should've ben out on the harley.by the way ! when i decide i am ready for another motorcycle i am going to pray for another 1984-1986 kawasaki gps550!!! i had one a long time ago, and have ben checking the internet and other places and they are still around (what is available) and a few have ben for sale. you either take the word of GOD you know and go with it or you be a deadbeat and put it and others down.twi had some mean horrible leaders,but we ran them all off and what we got now are loving ,caring,how can i help you leaders that are looking to bless and not hurt. no one who tries to hurt will be tolerated.a lot has changed in the past 7 years.i am not in a leadership role nor do i coordinate a twig,i'm just a lowly,lowly disciple,you could even call me a peon!! but instead of critizing people for being wrong i reconized error when i saw it ,got the correct doctrine and kept building my relationship with GOD . men will let you down!! vp was a man,he made mistakes,i make mistakes,all men make mistakes, he who never makes mistakes should sit where Jesus Christ sits.yes i went back to twi in 2001 after lcm (who had a lot of us kicked out) was sent packin!! this is not my grandfathers ministry!! this is an awsome ministry and we will never allow the devilish kind of leadership creep into this ministry again. it takes the household to keep a watchful eye to keep the crap out.remember regardless of who you fellowship with ,it is up to you weather or not to put up with crap,i hope this helped you,GOD bless you

the antichrist will be human and could be male or female and will be very respected by the populas and will apear to be good. will only rise up after the gathering together,that is when the book of revelation will start. the devil is always raising up this person to be ready to go into action at any moment since he doesnt know when the gathering together is going happen. i think the devil might be raising up several of these people at the same time so as not to put all his eggs in one basket.he uses trickery, bribery,offering the kingdoms of the world, whatever it takes to get these people to sell out to him,even though i have met a few people who said they preferrd the devils way and didint care about going to hell. just look at the hells angels mototcycle gang!!!this is the devils idea of what Jesus Christ was here on earth,except with steal,kill,destroy being his mission. this is nothing to be concerned about. those of us who are born again will be gone from this earth before that happens.remember the davil has to have someone ready at all times to immediatly move into this position of world dominance.this person could be from any country,maybe the devil is raising up these people in several countries ,he not knowing what will be the best country when the time comes.hope this helps you, God bless you

hello! imagine you go to see a parade. you take a small child along,there is a wooden fence that is taller than the child but you are taller than the fence. there is a small hole in the fence that the child just can see through and only see the part of the parade that is directly in front of him.however since you are taller than the fence you can see the entire parade front to back and tell the child what is coming next. in either peter ,timothy or one of those books around there is scripture that says 1000 years are as a day to GOD and a day as a thousand years.GOD invented time and it says GOD is all knowing.GOD sees our life from beginning to end just like the man at the parade.GOD being a loving GOD doesnt want to see us get hurt so HE will warn us of trouble and other things ,HE sees the entire parade.

yeah your considered a hatemonger if you dissagree with the coran, if you dont like the alquida(al kida) or however its spelled religion, if you preach christ to a jewish person, if you disagree with anyones religion no matter how violent it is or how many poeple it results in the murder of, yeah well GOD gave me free will,i live in a free country,and i am very vocal, and if they want to call me a hatemonger i dont care!!!!

are you saying that GOD and or the gift opperates us? that would be possession or pupettiering now wouldnt it?

when you did romans 10:9-10 you got born again and nothing can take that away from you and you cannot loose it!! in the book of peter it says its incorruptible seed,its seed,its permanent you cannot loose it! no one can speak in tounges unless they are born again, and you can be born again and never speak in tounges. my mother took the pfal class in 1983 and never spoke in tounges,she is born agian,she was raised roman catholic and quit going and went to fellowship a few years but quit going because she didint want to go to any kind of "church" any more,but she got born again, she died in 2000 from wegners desiese and is waiting the return of christ,my younger brother never wanted anything to do with GOD but i do believe he was born again because of him doing romans 10:9-10,my dad refuses to to have anything to do with GOD. there have ben times i have doubted if i was really speaking in tounges, however when i interpret and phrophesy i am blown away by some of the things i say that are beyond me thinking up,i am definitley convinced on revelation due to MANY instances concerning different maters in my life where i thought to do things and several times it saved my life from accidents, needed a job and decided to turn down a job offer even though it was a great offer and later that day got a phone call for a job that paid an additional $10.00 more per hour and was closer to where i live(i work construction so that is somewhat temporary)how about doubting thomas in the gospel of john,there are times i thought i got revelation but didnt,there are times i got revelation and didnt think it was and then realised later i should have acted, i am not perfect but i keep on walking ,i dont give up, maybe thats why its called a walk!!you are born again,and no one got scammed by twi, look at the scriptures in the bible. twi didnt write the bible,yes there was a lot of crap that went down in twi and there were some mean assholes in leadership positions but we have weeded them out ,in peter its says false ministers shall come in among you,and you have to speak up if that happens so they can be weeded out,i still go to twi fellowships and can tell you twi has changed dramatically in the last 7 years not the same ministry,and i will also tell you that no one that i know will condemn,look down on,or criticize you or anyone else for not going to fellowship, GOD doesnt condemn either. dont let anything cause you to doubt that you are born again,remember you did romans 10:9-10,you are born again. GOD is not a sham,the bible is not a sham,twi is not a sham. i was away from the ministry from about 1988-1994 and again from 1998-2001 but i decided to return both times for the word that is taught,graet ministry these days with great ,kind ,loving caring people,and yes there are others out there teaching the accuracey of the Word ,and you dont have to be going to fellowship,church or anything in order to have GOD answer your prayer just believe. i hope this helps you ,GOD bless you

awsome!!! i still go to twig! alot has changed in the last 7 years,lots of love ,ginuine leadership,ginuine people,havnt seen any leadership ego trips in a long time.i ben through the bads times and the good,i go for the accuracy of the word cause i want to know GOD,we keep our eyes open to make shure no false ministers creep in,in peter there is a verse that warns of false ministers coming in among you,so you got to speak up and get rid of them or else the same crap will happen again and people will get hurt, i dont allow others to hurt me,this ministry has evolved into a wonderful place,lots of caring love!!!!GOD bless you!!!

liz bell is the sister of ernestine brown a branch coordinator in pasadena ,ca. james and liz go to the fellowship i go to in alhambra,ca.they are doing great!

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