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i have a pair of sig p220's ( anybody got a light ?).45 acp, and i had a pair of sig p229's .40. i dont ever recall any noticeable muzzle flip(jump) difference. i traded those .40's to my dad and kept the 45's. the 220's i have dont have a lot of muzzle flip when shooting federal hydrshocks which is what i keep for self defense. i bought the 40's along with the 45's for self defense about 11 years ago. the 40's were a little smaller which made them good for carring however i prefere the 45's much better stopping power. my dad being a mississippi gun nut immediatly made a claim on the 40's. yep ! we both be mississippi born gun nuts, or is that acorn nuts , maybe just plane nuts !!!! hope this helps you , if you need more info just axk !!! GOD,guns and guts made this country free!!!!

thats awesome!!! i want one of those !!!!

FAR OUT!!!! mark and i along with another guy named charles were WOW's in cheyenne wyoming 1983-84. i haven't seen him since,would really like to talk with him. we had so much fun that year i still laugh a some of the stuff we did. if i could go back and relive that year i would. mark was one of the most fun guys i'v ever known, and he and i teamed up together shure were something. we could definitly make anyone who was down in the dumps laugh!!! i'll never forget that year,absolutly GREAT. if you ever see mark could you tell him jeff bankston one of his WOW brothers from cheyenne wyoming says HELLO. he can get in touch with me here,yeah i wonder if he remembers my surprise audio tape!!!!thanks for telling me about mark,GOD bless you, jeff

ever watched the movie "The Big Lewbowski" ? now thats some drug induced flashbacks!!!!

o my gosh i remember most of this stuff, how about Brillcream hair grease, a little dab a do you !!!!!! dont forget brownsville stations song smokin in the boys room !!!

how about that an airplane company named boing-boing-boing wow!!!!

i'm not trying to talk anyone back , furthermore if you have to talk someone into doing something your trying to convince them against their will. my point is the reason i go to fellowship is for the word of GOD that is taught and if thats brainwashing me so be it cause there is nothing greater than knowing what the deal with life is and how to get the most out of it. GODS word is not for everyone and neither is twi. watching the garbage on tv is not for me either. its a great thing to know what the deal is when it comes to things like eternal life, where did we come from,why am i here , what about global warming, i need prayers answered,etc. the roman catholic church i grew up in never had answers,just sin - condemnation-hell fire -and GOD was waiting to beat me over the head. i quit going and prayed to GOD to meet someone or group that would teach me the truth about HIM, and a few weeks later i was witnessed to , that was 1980 . talk about getting peace on the inside and many questions answered. there aint no other group that teaches as much of the word as twi does. there are those that teach accuratly but not to this extent. at one time there wasnt a twig close to me so i went to an independant fellowship run by a former way coordinator. it just wasnt the same. you have to do what you want to do and i'll do what i want to do . free will, and a free country to do it in at least free for now. ther are those who would like to take the freedom that we have in this country away and put us under iron hand rule.well we wont let that happen. i wish you the best ,GOD bless

yeah and they dont care and it wouldnt mater anyway no one tells me how to live my life!!!! this is a TOTALLY different ministry. no more lcm dictating peolples lives , and even than i cannot understand why people would allow someone else to tell them how to live. i got kicked out about 1998 and after lcm was gone i came back. this ministry has changed so much the past 7 years you could even call it by a different thats how much different it is . i lived with leadership for about a year from 02-03 and then went way disciple . i had ben a wow twice 81-82 and 83-84. when you have bad leadership bad things happen, when you have great leadership great things happen. same goes for your job, good boss good things bad boss bad things. we will never ever allow bad leaders in twi again, it took a while to weed them out but they are gone. i know a lot of people were hurt, and screwed over including me, but those days are long gone. loving ,caring how can we help you leaders and people in the ministry. in the book of peter it warns of false ministers that shall come in among you so you gotta be watchful and nip them in the bud ,keep them out.

oh no !!!! not global cooling i hate global cooling !! back in the 1970's in the 8th grade we were being taught in school that we were headed for an ice age. time magazine did an article on it , it was everywhere. we were being warned of this and that and when it didnt happen people forgot all about it. a little bit later global warming . now the scientist have backed off. they say the hottest year on record was 1990 something . now i guess they will start telling us we are heading for an ice age . i hope not i like it warm !!! 2 peter ch. 3 says this earth will remain until its time to be replaced so al gore and the rest of his bunch will not get their wish or is it woooooosh !!! it says this earth shall pass with a great noise !! BOOOOM !!!! i want a front row seat to see the end of the world, you know the fivefifty tickets in front , or marbe i'll get to do a drum roll, i play drums !

if you ever fly in an airplane it would be in your best intrest for the pilot to have studied and learned the class material thats he needs to fly that airplane ! i certainly wouldnt fly in a plane where someone used insight as a guide. would you be at peace if the pilot knew so little ? probably in pieces !!!

the intro song for the movie "my cousin vinnie" it just come on on hbo. great movie,i really liked the caracter that fred gwen ( herman munster ) played in this movie !!!

i work in the construction industry and have worked for a few, had a few on my crew, and dealt with a few in other trades.

thanks again. i found dennis dobbins email address on that link and emailed him.

thanks. i went to a fellowship he ran in northridge ,ca. in the late 1980's. i play drums and shortly after moving to hollywood i moved to the valley right down the street from him. there were some other drummers that came but i dont remember them. he ended up moving to san francisco and i never saw him again.

thank you

david garribaldi, ben potrowski,christine rocca, mark cutler,fran lubby,rocky nored,mark barrington,charles radliff,bill ginninthal,jeff walace,rick horncoe,paul castiano,kevin wiemer,denny lingle,kevin flanningan( was known to hang with ozzy osborne guitarist zak wilde)to be continued

wow talk about drinkin. a friend and i were at an asphalt stock car race track about 30 years ago and someone passed a cup to him with white lightinig in it and he took a sip and he said we better go its gonna rain he just heard it thunder !!!!

dear free at last : keep looking for people that you fit in with, most of the peolpe that i meet are usually into drinking or football or things i am not . i play drums and listen to rock music much of the time, i like going to the movies but am not a sitcom watcher. i like riding motorcycles and working on and taking my hot rod car to the racetrack. not many people i know are into this stuff. but i do have a few friends that i hang with so dont give up keep looking and never lower your standards for anyone . the bible that i learned from going to fellowship and applying in my life has REALLY ben of benifit in my line of work. i work construction and have very high standards because i work as if i am doing the job for GOD, and the companies i'v worked for LOVE that!!! they are ALWAYS looking for people with HIGH standards,not only is the job done right the first time thereby saving the company money cuase you dont have to go back and do the job over but the client is very immpressed and many times will hire us again even if our bid is higher.i thankful for the bible i learned it has enabled me to work in these very high paying jobs and i have gotten calls from other companies over the years by what people have said about me. hope this helps you,GOD bless you

o.k. wordwolf why do people need assistance leaving twi? if they dont want to come than stop coming NOW! no one is being held captive, no one is FORCED to come to twig! i left once ,decided to come back a few years later, got kicked out a few years after that ,than decided to come back cuase i want to here the bible that is taught!! i plan on staying BUT if i decide to leave i'll just stop going. and what it this stupid recovery stuff you make sound as if drugs are given to people---koolaid or something(i wouldnt mind takin a shot of white lightning!!!) what are they recovering from ? hearing someone read from the bible!!!!!escape from WHO!?! themselves !!! this stuff you typed here is SO untrue!!! and it says that i along with the other people in twi are bad and evil people. i really dont appreciate this at all for you have no idea what you are talking about. did you EVER attend a way fellowship????? and if not than what gives you the right to post this stuff??? if you did and you quit did people have to rescue you??? if you didnt than you are spreading false rumores and possibly hurting others. it really HURTS me to have people spread these lies!!! i try to help those that want to know GOD!! thats what life is all about , loving GOD and keeping HIS comandments the bible says that is the first duty of man, and to hear you accuse me of doing wrong to people is wrong. I AM THE WAY MINISTRY and so is anyone else who comes to fellowship,there is NO ministry without those of us who come to fellowship!!! we are THE WAY MINISTRY!!!

hello: i am a way goer!! started going in 1980 , was gone twice from about 87 or 88 until 94, and again from about 97 or 98 till 2001, went way disciple 03-04 to alabama which proved what i knew all along that alabama is mississippi's step child,thats right no difference and i got proof cause i'm from mississippi!!!! o.k. back to the topic. i dont have anymore access to info about twi than anyone else,except maybe upcoming class dates,events etc. i know who my limb and region leader is, i go to his house once a month for branch meeting yes he's my branch coordinator also , 3 in one but i dont remember much about the trinity movies from the 1970's they were westerns.(some people are probably wondering what in the world is this guy trying to say!!!!), some of my co-workers think i got dropped on my head when i was little!!!! i'd like to say that twi has changed dramatically in the past 7 years. all the bad leadership has ben weeded out, and the leadership we have now are just awesome. if they werent i wouldnt have come back. i know there were a lot of bad leaders that hurt a lot of people. there are those who are still around and maybe even lurking on this website that would love to inflict pain and kaos on our ministry and seek to destroy it. so twi along with myself and the rest are not going to allow that stuff to happen. i personally wouldnt talk to any of those tyrants much less provide them with ministry information. i read some post from people on here who i think want to bring down twi. i have also read MANY post on here from people who were hurt by these former way goers. anyone on this site that wants to inquire about twi or start going to fellowship again should contact twi. you will probably be srceened like i was but this is necessary to keep the riff-raff out. i have a ginuine desire to learn about GOD if not i wouldnt be allowed back. i dont want people coming in who want to destroy twi or who dont want to know GOD. never again will people weather leaders or followers be allowed to cause trouble,they will be thrown OUT!!! all i can say is this is not the same ministry i came to 7 years ago, it has really grown into wonderful ministry with loving,caring,how can i help you people, and without all that ego stuff!!! i along with a lot of you was wrongly kicked out back in the late 90's under that jerk lcm's super clean household quest. i hope this helps you,GOD bless you p.s i just want to make something VERY clear . i am NOT here to spy on anyone,keep tabs on this site or anyone, nor am i an operitive for twi. i am here to look for old believer friends and help anyone that i can,there are only 2 other believers that i told about this site and they are friends in tx and az and they might even check it out.

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well george for your info you dont know me ,have never heard of me ,etc. BUT!!! i study the bible. sometimes i'v studied for several hours,just like there are times i'v spent 6 or 7 hours banging mindlessly on this keyboard!!! sometimes i'v really wanted to learn something right away and put in a lot a work. what about collage kids and there studying. maybe collage kids just tell there teachers they study and fake the answers on there test. i never saw vp study just as i'v never seen ANY of the airline pilots that fly the planes i'v flown on study to become a pilot. there are NO valid points to this just someone looking to say stuff. how many hours have you studied the bible. vp had to have done some studying in order to put those wonderful classes together. by the way using other peoples reasearch material is NOT plagerism. vp never said he wrote those research books, he also talked about and named all those other people who helped him learn about GOD, mentioned them by name in the class,STAR DALY, BISHOP PILI (check spelling),etc.

hi phil. i have attended way fellowships since 1980. was away for a few years on 2 different occasions,returned about 7 years ago and plan on staying for the bible that is taught. there were in the past some in leadership positions that should never have ben. these former leaders invented laws and tried to dictate how people lived there life. we have weeded all these bad leaders out and have a really great ministry. i personally know a lady that has ben coming to fellowship for a number of years that married a man that is not into GOD. the ministry didnt marry them they were married elsewere. this ladies new husband eventually came to check out fellowship but quit coming his reason he's not interested in GOD.he doesnt go to any church. the lady continues to come to fellowship and has said that her husband is a sweetheart. i met him and he seemed very nice. no one in the way objected to them getting married. there are married people who come to fellowship who have sposes that dont attend. the bible clearly says that if you are married to somenoe whos not into GOD and the 2 of you are happy together that you should stay together,and not divorce. however it says if the one whos not into GOD decides to leave than allow them to leave,thats what the bible says.my mom along with us kids grew up roman catholic. my dad quit going when i was little,my mom was always trying to get him to go. about 30 years later my dad decides to go to the roman catholic church. my mom and dad had a great marrige. one thing to keep in mind are your personal goals in life. this is a BIG deal. if one wants to enlist in the military and the other is not into that lifestyle than you shouldnt get married. i was listening to a woman named dr.luara on the radio and a woman called in complaining that she was trying to get her husband to quit being a over the road truck driver. she said he was a truck driver BEFORE they got married. that should have ben talked about BEFORE they were married and if the lady still had a problem with it than that would not be the man for her,and you go find someone else. hope this helps you, GOD bless you

NO!!!! pfal is not part of the bible and neither are any of the other classas!!! they are classes !!! what is a class? a place you go to learn about something. do classes use material written by other peolple? yes! i worked as an electrician and took an electrical CLASS . we had books written by others. the class taught me how to better do my job. some people who have never done electrical work take classes to learn HOW to do electrical work. some others get on the job TRAINING. pfal taught HOW to study the bible. if i decide to be an airplane pilot i will need to take a class called ground school,or i can risk my life and others and risk getting thrown in jail an take someone elses plane for a joy fly!! i myself am extreamly thankful for pfal,the electrical classes,and the fact that you have to go to class to be a pilot. what i cant figure is why someone would agree to take a class and than go to the trouble of posting negative stuff on the web,what a waste of time. i am going to be taking a class on welding so the i learn the correct way to weld. one day i MIGHT,maybe take a class on computers. if you can figure stuff out for yourself thats great.

oh my gosh!!! we have these fast food hot dog joints here in california called wienerschnitizle (may not be spelled right) thay have a tv commercial about a hot dog with arms and legs thats always on the run so it doesnt get eaten!!! this reminded me of that!! oh my gosh!!!!