cheranne

me too,but how do you describe that tail wagging?

Very Common. Personality changes 2. Dramatic shifts of values or beliefs 3. Changes in diet or sleep patterns 4. Refusal to attend important family events 5. Inability to make decisions without consulting a cult leader or guru 6. Sudden use of a new ideology to explain everything 7. Black-and-white, simplistic reasoning 8. A new vocabulary 9. Insistence that you do what he or she is doing9One explanation of these symptoms is the development of a pseudo-identity, a new persona the individual adopts to fit into the cult environment.6To date, there have been many studies addressing the question of psychological harm caused by cult membership, but like any research into effects of trauma, ethics preclude much prospective study, which limits validity. In an extensive review of research, three researchers concluded that a substantial minority of ex-cult members have problems readjusting to life outside the cult.5Why some are harmed and others are not has yet to be pinned down. A Group Psychological Abuse Scale has been developed for measuring the degree to which influence exists in different groups

I agree mstrar! It is not so much we are judging as we are trying to WARN other people of those errors. I witnessed to people ,ran classes, and was gun ho about the whole thing,now I am doing the opposite ,trying to warn people "don't do it" Been there done that. YOu will be sorrry(with a death skull by the side of the forked road)

Ditto that! I didn't know we could use the word "bastard" I would have added it sooner than a$$!

bidi bidi bom bom? selena

selena?

That is really neat! But, how did you wash your outside window?

This "so called Dr" QUACK was giving out the wrong prescription,making people ill!

I was thinking Good angel or Bad angel,lets hear that too. I bet this thing would light up if it was posted did you ever shell shock a demon! Oh yeah . well ofcourse because in TWI thats just a habit pattern we are trained automatically to do.

Yes! I am sure of it. It was also a hitch hiking experiance,but my friend and I had left The Way and we left no notes just picked up and left with the clothes on our backs and my guitar( an Alvarez black smoke in color it was a gift from my father) We had been on the road for two days now from Phoniex and were headed for Florida but ended up in California . Our plan now was to go see her friend in San Diego,well....it was in the wee morning hours 3am or so entering L.A. we could see the lights from far away,but our last driver keft us in the middle of nowhere making it hard to get a ride(this was also during the days of the zodiak serial killer of course we didn't know anything we never looked at the news or newspapers, or tv!) So,,,here we are concrete highways and noone on the road ,from a distance we see a car,its a lowrider (and being from san antonio I know that is trouble for two young girls)there are more than four guys in this car and we just keep walking trying not to draw attention to ourselves,I had a cowboy hat on and drew it low over my eyes as I carried my guitar. I thought they might want the guitar and then leave us alone but they drove slow cruising along side as we walked,we had no where to go and if we got in that car it would be over. Trust me you just know these things (and I am of hispanic background so I am not saying this to be racist) The suddenly out of Nowhere,no noise or anything an 18 wheeler pulls up quick and motions with his hand "come on" (usally you can hear a truck coming down a road!) We sprint to the truck and get in,I see a man Indian man,long hair, and indian jewelry on his hands. I say Thanks! He never says a word,but the kind eyes don't have too we both know what may have happened back there. The feeling of safety is unbelievable,and we drive on thru the dark away from L.A. and he leaves us at a little town,which I think had like a greyhound bus station. I'll never forget that.

As one who needs prozac because of so much trauma as a young child,in life and death situation I considered myself spiritually inquestive(always) but I didn't start taking prozac until I was outoftheway and started therapy,for me it helped.

Hey that is very clever,good job T bone!

Leaving for the last time. Military Wow It was quiet..and I probably would not have left had the higher ups went ahead and agreed to have a marriage for Mr OKC and I. But...nope they said no "Not Approved" he had just taken PFAL and we were not on the same "level" (what a bunch of crap!!) anyhoo...it's all good been together now 27 years. (3 kids,2 grandkids,4 dogs and 1 cat!) Left everything of TWI laying in my room and took my bible and wow pin(which I threw in a lake 20 yrs later! ) I did leave a note to my three wow brothers(who were great guys)and the other twig was great too but "things were a changing" how DARE someone tell you who you should and shouldn't marry!

car wash still not working (it works on my other sites?)

My only concern is that no more people get hurt! Their has been enough hurt and wrong doing intentionally or unintentionally,some people don't think before they speak. Many us us are on differant levels of the healing process,some are just numb to it and refuse to crack it open,just like some people are afraid to cry cause it's hard to stop,but we all have a responsibilty NOW as humans to hurt or help.

I know..I use too stop right in my tracks when saying things to this day I never use the word wow,and try not to use the way,or scripture that was used over and over with way meaning and not True meaning. Use to have a problem with people wearing crosses around their necks,that doesn't bother me now after 30 yrs! But now I see people wearing the tree of life around there neck (and it's just weird to see that)

thanks belle, thats alot of offshoot crap,too much for the gag reflex! If this was a farm of offshoots lets just say I would roll up the windows and open all the air freshner little christmas tree things!!! and then drive as fast as I could to pass it.

thanks Rocky, I did not know? What other people are out there I should know about is there a list?

this from google. yada yada yada....Chapter 8, also web interview with ). Unfortunately, name and his teachings are not credible or accurate.name is not trained, certified or recognized as a Rabbi, and his "ordination" by a cult called The Way International (TWI) required only minor instruction in an unaccredited TWI program. His central teachings depart radically from the evangelical Christian faith, and several of his teachings and practices are typical among cults rather than among Christians or Messianic Jews (that is, Jews who have accepted Yeshua [Jesus Christ] as Lord and Savior). Furthermore, many of his teachings and practices are drawn from a cult called The Way International which was incorporated in 1954 and widely denounced by Christian leaders and TWI's ex-followers alike. About 95% of TWI's followers have left TWI after seeing its severe errors, and many ex-leaders of TWI have founded a variety of splinter groups or ministries, just as name has. Name TEACHINGS AND PRACTICES **R00d predicted in the 1990s that the seventh millennium of earth's existence would begin on sunset, September 11, 1999, which he says is Tishri 1, 6001 on the Hebrew calendar. This would begin the "intermediate events," before the rapture of the Church. He generally interpreted the "intermediate events" to be the seven year Great tribulation which would include collapse of the world economy, world chaos, appearance of the Antichrist, the establishment of a global government, attack on Israel, nuclear attack on America, revolution in the United States, martial law, invasion of America by the armies of Russia, China and other countries, destruction of most of America and the death of most Americans. He summarizes this list in Mystery of Iniquitysaying "America will be smashed by Russia, and Russia will be smashed by God as they attempt / yada yada yada!!!

[ on Faith TV on God Tube. My Limb leader in DC in 79 Bible teacher Michael R33d. Because of the disobedience of the Hebrews, Israel was scattered. They have returned and God wants to bless them. [sorry it's such a mess,I can't get the vidoe on for some reason!

The hot zone is described as something as to when an infection that is highly toxic is running loose and has to be maintained in a structured enviroment,with masks and suits and gloves and shoes like when dealing with ebola virus(stuff the army at ft detrick do and center for disease control,) i write this for people who are looking to get OUT of the danger of cult teachings,people that need help trying to get to the other side of WRONG TEACHING sometimes in healing we have to get untangled from scripture abuse and that can create a hot zone (FOR SOME PEOPLE NOT ALL)it is very very hard to say try to go to a church for some if that is what they want to do,the trust level is blown out of the water for some people it is life and death,you feel unworthy,you feel separated from God because the way told you this lie or another,still we have so much knowledge of truth,we just need to get rid of the lies and break that chains of way slavery bondage, whether you are a christian,or whatever you wish to be,i really don't care how you get there just get there and be free. personally i had to go thru the bible to get that virus out of my head,poison out of my heart..i am not a church going person but,i needed help like seriously i was sick ,and if you are thier as most of us didn't and couldn't just walk away without injury,i was lucky '"BLESSED" to find KAY ARTHURS precept teachings and a person to help me at FT BRAGG N.C protestant women of the chapel,bible studies,it was like pulling teeth sometimes but just give things a chance if that is what your doing. I am very thankful to those people as my children are to have a parent because it could have like a virus deadly

20 yrs of Cult service (and a gold hamster wheel for your fire place mantle) I have more respect for a garbage man who actually takes the bad stuff away from me and my family not to spread MORE germs of infectious disease,you are just piliing up more crap around more peoples homes making them stink and sick spiritually ,talk all you want about it "wormwood" Then go get a copy of C.S Lewis "The Screwtape Letters" and read that for some enlightenment. p.s. I say this out of love.

Good choice in music waysider(I never did understand that song,but it fits here if only the bird were vultures and vampire bats to represent way higher ups)and I felt sorry for that poor fish! too felt like a fish out of water(symbolic of fisher of men or christian symbol of a fish you see on cars)

Excuse me! No I don't think so,I will not respond to anything affiliated with or by The Way International ever again! No more than I would promote child abuse with a slap on the wrist to these people who deliberately cause "illness" to people and STILL are by the foundational class they sell as their snake oil. Tough "love" does NOT walk hand in hand with the error that in itself is deceitful which is a big GREAT BIG HUGE PROBLEM (the way international has) It's not you zbrick ! It is the message of TWI.