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Here's my Critical Thinking Skills! <object width="445" height="364"><param name="movie" value=" name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="445" height="364"></embed></object>Here's My Critical Thinking Skillzzzzzzzzzzz <object width="445" height="364"><param name="movie" value=" name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="445" height="364"></embed></object>

I thought this topic was on Critial Thinking Skills and how to get OUT of THE WAY (hamster wheel life and be free) I supppose for each person it IS differant depending on your desire. The first step is the most important and that is to recognize TWI is NOT it. Maybe in the beginning it was or seemed like a good thing to know the bible,but I did\ not sign up for what it really was in the longrun. I still had the desire to KNOW God. Even after I went thru the I don't believe in "anything anymore" thing. I now call myself a Humanitarian that believes in God.

Cult Information Article ...ritual abuse groups may share the following characteristics with coercive cults: ...dogma is more important than people, ... a radical separation of good and evil,... a demand for purity," members are watched all the time and their loyalty is tested "... the dogma is enacted through rituals,... regularly observe(d) rituals, rituals frequently invoke supernatural intervention,... staged events such as planned spontaneity... mystical manipulations, cults capitalize on members' fear and ignorance,... a sense of separateness (is promoted) through an "us" and "them" mentality, ... siege mentality with a paranoid view of the outside world, humor is forbidden, resistance of members is worn down through physical and emotional manipulations, a person's identity is destroyed... to create a new one," members give up their autonomy to be approved," mind control is used to indoctrinate the victim into the group's belief system, individuality is uniformly suppressed,... a well-defined hierarchy," members are used to benefit leader(s), "mind control is used ...to convert the victim to the group's belief system,... to insure secrecy... and to carry out cult instructions. (Safe Passage to Healing p 47 48) Survivors in cults may be taught to feel superior to others. This creates feelings of alienation. They may be programmed how to behave outside the cult and who to have as friends. Can people "unknowingly" reporting back to the original cult or other cults (online or offline)? Safe Passage to Healing states that protector or maintainer alters, may sound like they are still cult active. It is very important to cut all contact with possible cult members and/or unhealthy groups that may have handlers (people that know the triggers and use them for their own or someone else's benefit.) The strong need for some survivors to be a part of something, anything, even if it may be harmful to the person. Ends justify the means. Doing immoral things to help "protect" the group. Survivors join the group to heal, but the malevolent survivor groups hidden goal could be to keep them from healing by "messing them up." This survivor group may be controlled or may have been formed by an outside group, cult or organization. It is difficult to know when one is brainwashed, esp. if this is occurring in an alter. Codependency characteristics can be used by some groups to revictimize survivors, making them emotionally dependent on the group. Codependency can be defined as a condition marked by an inordinate reliance on person(s), thing(s), or activities, for personal well-being and self-esteem (Breaking the Circle... preface section.) This could include the use of guilt or strong emotions to bond a person to the group. Hassan's (Combatting Cult Mind Contro) criteria for mind control in a group. The leader is always right and dissent is frowned upon or squelched. The organization considers themselves a team and not allow others in, or other survivor orgs. are considered bad. They are the best org. their team is the best. The leader or leadership group makes all the important decisions, all must follow, public dissent is squelched. Some people may take the name of the leader or imitate the leader. In a malevolent org. those that follow the leader's rules are complimented, those that dissent are told they are difficult or impolite, their opinions are dismissed as an attack, not acknowledged that they might have some validity. (Excerpts from S M A R T (Stop Mind control And Ritual abuse Today Issue 29 - Nov. 1999

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When I think of the phrase Critical Thinking as always(I think in a medical way symbolically)I think Critical Care. Critical Condition(ER/Trama Intensive Care) So If you have ever been in that situation car accidents,fires and YOU are the only one THERE with this other person in (Critical Condition)and you don't have a cell phone! What do you do ...What can You do as your heart also races with adreline to what do I do move the person away from danger...don't move them ,do CPR and so on and so forth. My first reaction is to Pray! Not a long prayer more like "HELP". So..what do YOU do when your the one in a critical situation and you are the only one that is say out there and got the rattlesnake bite and the clock is ticking....do you make the bite with an X and suck the poison out and spit it to the ground or do you try to make it on foot to the nearest place(no cell phones remember) How do you save yourself from this accident(and I look at getting involved in TWI an accident waiting to happen) Some people just had mild experiences and others had to be "Life Flighted" to critical care and...some did NOT make it. People are waking up I hope with all the information available about Cults and all but I hope they are walking out .

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It is a waste for the Youth and sadly it can be prevented if THEY "WAKE UP".

That ok I didn't have long enough explanation because I am overworked :blush: watching 2 babies in diapers!!!

Well then....what I meant is I really don't care if a person has a degree(or whatever)as long as they can help someone else. Like Kristen Skedgell writing her book "Losing The Way" she doesn't say she is a "cult expert" but in her life she is and therefore can help others. Manipulation and Abuse in all areas of mind control ,brainwashing and Psychological Operation in any form can alter behavioral changes in a person especially a child. Then we can also learn alot from kids too.(and they are not so called experts and have degrees and so forth look at "The writing Machine" or Anne Frank.

I don't know and don't care .

I agree with that too. I remember that feeling (Man this ain't right! It felt like(to me)like slamming on the brakes on a black ice road and not being able to STOP!) I trained myself from day one when asking What about...so on and so forth and EVERYONE(IN TWI) said you just have to take The Class! Soon I was the one running classes and telling others You just have to take The Class! When family members were concerned I would just put them on IGNORE(as Earthly family)because the were not"believers". When leaving I felt the same way about Oh No (your walking away from "Gods Word" and there is NO Armor on your back Satan desires to sift you as wheat..blah blah blah(fear based tactics)the sky is falling the sky is falling... but like Krys said yeah...I thought What IF? So I shut it down ! Just SHUT IT DOWN (all of it) like turning off the stadium light after a crazy football game at Night and no one is there and it is just QUIET! and it is YOU. ...and it is God. Then start again.

Oh I don't know before I got into TWI I hung out with people "essencially normal" a little more on the party side but that was college and THEN I hung out with Way Believers" ALL the time and basically if the other people didn't get involved in TWI I would not hang out with them,therefore I had 1 source of people who did Way stuff ALL THE TIME even if going to Bars to witness or whatever it was ALWAYS about TWI. But your right..thats not enough to get over that "word scramble twi mindset" but it IS a start...some people are lucky enough to walk away from a cult with No problem I was Not one of them. It is differant for everyone I am sure,,,I went from being sold out to TWI to you know I just don't give a FLIP about all this crap or God for that matter but (I really did still on the inside !) As I got older and had children I still wanted them to know the bible. and that is when I tried to find a church home (I found that difficult too)because what I needed was to reteach myself all over again from the error of TWI, (Sorta like a freakn ROOT CANAL!!!) I fought it for years...still having dreams about TWI times and precious friends I had(the people were always great(well..most people)it was the message that was wrong. I took alot of Precept(classes on the bible)Ministries(not joining anything!)the first class I took was on John then the Lord Series(by Kay Arthur) I doubt that if I had NO DESIRE to know the TRUTH I would have went that route,but it helped me with my way of thinking. More like rewiring the whole system so your house won't burn down! This was before I ever even knew about this site which I think would have been very helpful during the transition from "phantom faith" to FAITH.

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You could always get a job at McDonalds on "the field" I wonder how much money went to TWI!

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and this too. Adapted from "Captive Hearts, Captive Minds" by M.L. Tobias and J. Lalich Get rid of the idea of brainwashing - that has to do with what occurred to POWs in the 1950s and it was a brutal process and it was a blatant process. Thought control is not; It is subtle. Robert Jay Lifton Lifton’s work began by noticing an ideological totalism occurring with people in high pressure and cultic groups. He defined it as a process in which the sense of an individual is joined with a set of beliefs – the person is ideologically smothered. This ideological totalism is a world of extremes, of all-or-nothing. He studied and found 8 psychological themes as follow below. The more that apply to a situation, the more effective the thought reform program. MILIEU CONTROL: control of communication and information available. What is available as print, audio, electronic media is either discouraged, forbidden, or simply not available to members. Other forms of this is not having provided full-disclosure of the group’s self or tenets to an outsider. MYSTICAL MANIPULATION is when the group claims authority over the divine or supernatural. For example, Moon claimed to be the returning Son of Man; likewise the LC claims to have the only correct version of the Bible along with practicing the way God intended it in the beginning. Herein, the ends justify the means, everything serves a higher purpose, lying is okay if you get more members. Abuse of the members is okay if you are able to maintain high numbers of membership. Self-expression and independence dissolve as members are careful to consider what the higher members of the group have to say regarding their lives. DEMAND FOR PURITY. The leader is of the highest morality. Not only are the top members of a group godly, but they are divine, if not God himself. We see this with Jim Jones, Moon, Ron L Hubbard, Christian Scientists (they have the power, if they just believe enough), etc. Guilt and shame are imposed, as are humiliation and punishment. There is a loss of moral sense. “SACRED SCIENCE” is the doctrine that the group is the Ultimate Truth, and questions of this truth are discouraged, further limiting self-expression, creativity (all need to think/act the same), no personal development (all development is done for betterment of the group, not of the self). CULT OF CONFESSION is to encourage surrender to the group, there is a lack of balance between the ideas of worth and humility, and secrets don’t have boundaries. What doesn’t the group know? Often seen in public group confession, shunning, isolation practices, abuse, and other methods used to break the person down. LOADING THE LANGUAGE is a term to describe how the group uses jargon that is only understood by the group. It constricts the person to largely communicate only within the group. Also restricts the imagination, thoughts, and emotions. DOCTRINE OVER PERSON. The denial of the self and a cult persona emerges. (Hassan has a lot more to say on this.) DISPENSING OF EXISTENCE. Non believers are evil, or not people. There’s a strong division between “us and them.” This separation, if one chooses or manages to leave the group is punishable via some phobias. For Christian groups such as the LC and the ICC, the fear is that leaving makes one a non-

Awe..too cute! Thanks for sharing.

I found this today(maybe it'll help someone) Here are ten signs that you have been indoctrinated or Brainwashed. One does not have to exhibit all ten, just a few will suffice. 1.) CHARISMATIC LEADERSHIP - the unquestioned obedience and submission to the claimed authority, divine appointment, and knowledge of a central leader or group of leaders who demand such obedience to prove the individual's faith, motives, integrity and trustworthiness. 2.) TOTALITARIAN WORLD VIEW - a "we-versus-they" view of the outside world designed to enhance the group's identity, goals, and welfare at the expense of the individual. Group members are the heroic "good guys", and outsiders are the villainous "bad guys." 3.) ELITISM - benefits of belonging are unobtainable to outsiders but available to the loyal only through association with the group - from personal empowerment and spiritual highs to fulfillment and ultimate salvation. The group views itself as the only one with "the truth" and lives accordingly. 4.) DECEPTION - the group's free usage of dishonesty, falsehoods and questionable claims in both it's indoctrination of new members and it's rejection of "outsiders" who seem critical of the group. Any media and literature used may be characterized by deceptive and misleading claims. 5.) ALIENATION - the group's active encouragement of it's members to remain separate from those family, friends and parts of society opposed to group ideals. The outside world is viewed as sinful, ignorant, Satanic and must be fully withdrawn from - thus reinforcing the group's control. 6.) FATIGUE - the deprivation of members of sleep, needed rest times and free time with the insistence that long hours of work and meetings are a means of demonstrating true faith, real dedication to a cause, or determination to succeed. The effects of mental fatigue impair the individual's ability to critically think or even rationally function, leaving them open to manipulation. 7.) FEAR - the usage of continuously overemphasized phobias (irrational fears) to control members (some of these being programmed fears of hell, fear of the government, fear of certain objects, fear of business loss, fear of the "world order", fear of displeasing God and others, fear of the devil, fear of other races, fear of displeasing the group's leaders and mentors and fear of losing close ties to the group) 8.) EXPLOITATION - a broad trait ranging from pressure to give all of one's wealth and time to the group to the usage of guilt, secrecy and emotional manipulation to maintain control: the threat of expulsion is a particularly powerful leverage of control, as is verbal, sexual and even physical violence. 9.) CHANGE IN DIET - under nourishment as well as unhealthy nutrition used to keep members mentally dulled and thereby less able to engage in independent thinking - the greatest enemy of destructive cult groups. Mind-altering toxins, drugs and chemicals are used in some foods sometimes in deliberate fashion. 10.) LACK OF PRIVACY - individuals are not allowed moments of private solitude or contemplation which may lead to independent thought: frequently, group members live and function in society together, and monitor each other closely (particularly in family situations) to ensure conformity to the group's proscribed lifestyle. These ten traits are all designed to accomplish one central cult goal: indoctrination into the group's belief system with a simultaneous shutdown of independent thought. The nature and precise details of that belief system will differ sharply from group to cause to philosophy to study group, but the human dynamics involved are always the same. When you find a group of warm, friendly people who have all the answers, whose group claims to speak for God or possess "true enlightenment" exclusively and encourages you to stop thinking for yourself, you have found a destructive cult - no matter what the label, exterior reputation or collection of testimonies would say otherwise. For more information here is that website address: http://www.spiritwatch.org/mincon10.htm