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Dude I was expanding upon a question of how the RC church came up with purgatory, not taking shots at someone who may have a profile on this sites denomination. What I said was pretty much the RC MO in that period of time and their own disclose this also. No RC I know including extended family gets highly offended over the RC history through the ages. Let’s consider the thinness of the skin when we are bringing up kindness. When you get paranoid and attack that is not kindness. Accept accommodate integrate. Oooooooo it’s so offensive. Christmas? Easter? 10000 other pagan customs assimilated? What active RC is highly offended over those 3 words? I doubt the pope himself would be offended at that description. I guess the question goes to why are you so offended then?

So with RC history the pattern seems to be accept, accommodate, and integrate. An intermediate state between death and judgement keeps the followers in dynamic tension allowing for a greater level of control. Do good? Pay your toll? You advance. Don’t pay your toll? Everlasting hellfire buddy!

Yeah because Fundamentalists always need a scriptural analogy, queue up the Moses and the “promised land” analogies where there is a spiritual reason to exclude boomers. The Jr Rock - The Babysitting Event of the Year. Mom, Dad, now’s your chance. You could pack up a tent and slip away to a free campground somewhere for vacation. Maybe they won’t notice you gone and ease up on the “let’s get a Plaffy class together” witnessing outings. Hey at least it’s better than an annual forced family vacation filled with every member working 80 hours. And you can’t save for both - Way events, tithing, and a self care vacation.

It’s this link. Hope that’s better.

I would agree. Simultaneously he poured water on the fire of the “Groovy Christians of Rye NY” and in both cases placed his goon Way Corps grads leading both West and East Coast arms of the movement - Moynihan was one of them. The only survival of the Jesus movement persisted in the influence of Calvary Chapel which produced a new denomination of Christianity and various other Christian movement changes. The Jesus movement, which was originally one that originated from the fire in the hearts of the masses, was overrun by the weeds of human greed and corporate institutions. “The Way” or “The So-Called Way” or “The Way International” produced a rock star existence for VP and a subservient existence for the lay follower. A stagnant pool of lust for power and bondage.

The pickles were bomb. And that huge monstrosity of a chicken fryer. Delicious fried chicken.

Yes as well as the “hook shot revolution” showing Kareem the way.

socks! We have a sighting So funny about the parallel elderly groups. We do have an R&R splinter group going on - I do think it must stand for Rest Home and Rehab my take is the brain trust probably all saw the matinee show for The Jesus Revolution and had an epiphany. But the people would rather see the Jesus Revolution than PLAF-T Why? Because Christianity is for the masses not the brasses. And Jesus in peoples hearts is better than a fat lie about “The Teacher” chewed up in 4 different cow stomachs and regurgitated for the world once more. Peace.

So this year the JW Governing Body has made the policy change for all its cult followers that they no longer have to report up through the organization the number of “pioneering hours” they spend per week. They just check a box instead. This is causing some internal challenges. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/s/DdBwS5j1Ps I wonder if The Way International has modified any of their volunteer witnessing policies over the years. When I was a leader in TWI they had policies for every single leader position in the organization. The instructions to every single leader included “Carry out the heart of the Board of Directors to all members on the field”. This was called the “Rise and Expansion” policies and was part of the “Way tree” structure throughout our country. It included that every local group would “strive to run a class” according to calendar goals. So to fulfill this, leaders designed similar outreach tactics to the JWs with door to door, public stands and planning and recording outreach activities conversations and results. When I look back on this now it is all control and zero Bible at the basis of this. Jesus Christ when he returns is not going to ask everyone at the bema how diligently they “carried out the heart of the BOD to the members on the field”. No the BOD will get their very own dunce cap dedicated to those who promoted their own interests in the name of Jesus Christ. Christianity is not a hierarchy of power like you see in the world with organizations. It is a grassroots movement at the individual not the organization level. And nobody anywhere cares one iota about what the “heart” of a group of controlling dolts on a small farm in Ohio is.

Ok I tried once again to listen to the incredible forehead. I got as far into the teaching as him going on about God making a way to escape with the temptation and how you should be getting warnings from God ahead of time to avoid the trap. Then irony closed in. And I shut him off.

Rev 20:13 the sea gave up the dead that were in it and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. These groups of people mentioned probably gave rise to the idea of purgatory - which seems to be a mythical place trapped between heaven and hell. Who is it really talking about though? Who are the dead in the sea as opposed to the dead in Hades? And the dead in Death? Who are not in the sea or Hades? Who are they? Will they have name tags in the 3rd Heaven and Earth of Revelation? Hey bro I’m a sea dead. Oh yeah well I went to Hades and back. Whoa.

Yes WoW - TM

Yes it fits right in with Bible accounts like the twelve meeting the seventy where they said “we own the trademark on everything you’re doing” and called them “swagger jackers”.

On the nostalgia bias front I see that the BODolts have paid money to patent the term “Word Over the World”. Tm. Your ABS at work. Now if they could only patent the term “world peace” then they could collect a lot of money at every Miss America contest. All u other WOWs are cheap imitators lol.

2023 ex-Mormon Brodie awards. When your cult is larger they have awards shows for those who speak against it: https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/s/kzNqQCI93J Zelph on the shelf has a catchy channel:

Paul Allen was ....ED OFF. He got in LCM face and told him off and did not give two hoots about his goon Linder displaying his firearm in a holster. If you are having affairs with peoples wives his own fear and conscience kept him with a personal goon whenever he traveled in public. I mean how many husbands would justifiably want to beat his @$$? Or more?

Any story I have would be mostly about mind numbing boredom while providing free security services for a cult that masterfully renamed “security” “bless patrol”. Every once in a while you would see Jesus on a golf cart. Or some other large named performing clown. But mostly mind numbing boredom. The only redeeming quality was getting to know the other captives.

He also said it to you ….

?? Sorry what does this comment have to do with the post you quoted about LLM ?

Yeah the similarities are that LLM is trained on huge amounts of data that could almost simulate human experience. Then it generates the next most logical thing from that training. If you think about it the TWI follower listens to very specific ways they run the prayer and TIP in meetings for quite a while watching others do it. Then they take a class and get “trained” in TIP. There is a definite case for saying they are also generating a response constructed from previous experiences, and believing because a few phrases are extemporaneously spoken that indicates that it is God giving the words. We have all seen and experienced some major f ups in meetings when people “get it wrong”. They are corrected and over time they produce a uniform output.

I’m not delving through all those responses to find out where the DDR game started. He basically was stating as fact AI was involved, then indicated that made it unreliable. I asked for a specific example. Then the attacks started.

Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack?

Hmmm. The topic is “Cult Facts”. The question is “which cult facts exactly do you claim are inaccurate?” Sorry seem pretty direct on topic to me. Raising a question and then starting a game of dance dance revolution refusing to answer a follow up question, however, does seem pretty off topic.

Well I’m God. It’s been twice established on this thread. And I approve.

Ok this is semi interesting. AI produces generated output from petabytes of trained data. One could argue that a TWI intermediate class student is doing the same thing with messages purported to be interpretation of tongues and prophecy. One could argue that the mind of the manifester is like AI.