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  1. Yeah man me too. Trying to fix it by my lifestyle before then too. Peace and Merry Christmas!
  2. Sure go for it. Says the guy who starts all the random thought threads that nobody reads
  3. I mean for Chrissakes there’s BABIES in the audience. That big toe tarnish could really keep them from focusing on the Word in children’s fellowship.
  4. Some children never face the harsh realities of the outside world so remain at a child like emotional development state through most of their adult life.
  5. Yes anytime someone makes a valid point he just completely ignores that post and chains onto another one to get his message out. He has a false vision of being Luke the physician sent by God to heal the cult history.
  6. The second bio exists in its entirety encapsulated in threads on this site. It has already rescued many from the clutches of the evil cult. But you reject these accounts, facts, logic, truth. You say they are influenced by an imaginary anti idol filled with hate. So you venture out on your own whitewash brush in hand. Disconnected from both audiences. Having the empathy of a small soap dish. And reading the room you are in with the skill of said soap dish.
  7. He won’t answer. 1. They would feel disenfranchised $65 million of their money is going to sustain a cult they left. 2. 80% or more left in the 80s when the truth came out and nobody trusted Craig to follow him. The Way, TSCM - the so called ministry, has been like the Mormon church, enriching themselves and surviving off the leftover cash cow from the ministry heyday. Like the Mormons they have an investment portfolio. Like the Mormons they are rich at HQ but never help their own members with any hardships ever. They desperately need tithing members. There is a record of a witnessing “push” in 2018. This will be repeated as it is in the fabric of their leadership manuals. Desperate cult is desperate.
  8. Hey Mikey I think there might still be a little tarnish spot on “The Teacher” statues left big toe. Do you think you could get a crew on that pronto before the public sees it?
  9. Yes I get it. It’s positive marketing. Like Santa Claus. Such a beautiful positive message. No negative in sight. It’s so peaceful. Certainly Mike can get a cleaning crew together and shine TWIs image. Shine shine shine. I mean even Tom Sawyer whitewashed fences. And he’s an American hero!
  10. But but but but but but Isnt whitewash like a little white lie? I mean the BOD is only lying to them to protect them and so the ministry is not blamed. Nobody cares about a little whitewash do they? It’s only to make the neighborhood look better. Trying real hard with my list of excuses to lie to followers.
  11. Yes it may be that eventually someone high up might tell some of a portion of the truth somewhere. The pattern they have is to do anything sketchy like that at the Advanced Class where they have people isolated for 2 weeks away from outside influence and can spin a version of a story there that is not fact checked or challenged in any way. They are waaaaaay too chicken to do anything like that in the public eye where people like us and John Juedes are looking at it.
  12. Yes those pesky footnotes and bibliography entries. They just so distract people. I’m sure they’ve never had to use them in a paper in school or anything to cite the legitimacy of their writings. Yes pulling materials of “cop outs” as the internal saying goes is probably a full time job for someone. They really have to jump through hoops with Craig’s book on Acts. They downplay it, only quote it if no other source, and hide it in Way tree job descriptions. The “history department” is the BOD. They are also the “research department”. They set the direction of what the PLAFT teachers studied and taught. Their egos are so huge that they cannot tolerate any others in those fields or jobs. Their decision making is 100 percent around “that the ministry be not blamed” twisting of a scripture to hyper focus on self preservation as opposed to the truth from Gods Word as spoken to them via many sources.
  13. Johnny Jumpup and Maggie Muggins from BG Leonard’s class approve of this message.
  14. Hey T bone Merry Xmas. Nice write up and linked articles. It really interests me to examine free will and the will of man because of the promulgation in TSCM (the so-called ministry TWI) of the greatest secret in the world today being the WOG = WOG What does man’s will vs Gods will mean in context? My really simplistic mental modeling goes with me reaching a hand up and grabbing Christs hand to pull me outta whatever mess I got myself into. I’m sure free will is much more complex than that. But I’ve had analysis paralysis before too so don’t wanna go too far down that path. Cool discussion topic for sure.
  15. Still waiting on the explanation of what specifically in “the collaterals” it is that you are clinging to. Detail not just a worn out catchphrase. Plenty of time for other stuff, why no time to answer direct questions?
  16. Idolater is such a harsh term. Would you be more comfortable with being a VPW bobblehead? I mean in a figurative sense of course. Now when you say “the collaterals” what specifically are you referring to? I mean we had a cool conversation I remember about the “why division” chapter in the green book. That chapter specifically seems real delusional. Maybe you mean something else though? Over used a camera analogy? That takes pictures off arseholes victim blaming? 4 Crucified or The Day JC Died? What do YOU mean by “collaterals” that you can discipline your life to like a moral code?
  17. I think this problem with VPW worship is that there really aren’t enough idols of him around. I mean it’s so laborious to travel to a root locale to kneel before the teacher statue. And the BOD haven’t given me a token one for the salt of my tears either to place on my desk because sadly I’m not good enough. So what is an ex Way Corps member to do? Do you think injection plastics is the answer? We could design a VPW bobble head. This could get the heart of the VPW worship to the masses faster!
  18. Just putting it out there - “snapped” is usually a term in conversation that refers to a psychotic break of some kind. Not sure if that is a great analogy to talk about the new birth in. Just a thought.
  19. Mike idolizes VPW who is the author of the collaterals, and PFAL and RHST. Unless he is introducing a “funnel” as a new “gift ministry”. Now that you mention it, it has potential. A funnel takes a large volume of info and focuses it to a small area output. A funnel has no soul. A funnel just passes info through it. If the devil possesses someone are they his “funnel” I should actually write my version of TWI history. I could call it “Fun with funnels” Merry Xmas my funnelicious “friend”
  20. Two clowns and a dairy cow. That cocks her head like a spaniel.
  21. Right as in spiritual clusterf*ck referring to TWI HQ.
  22. As long as you still have the painted smile it’s good. Since they canceled the circus due to the elephants you just don’t see the same amount of clowns around any more. That and John Wayne Gacey the serial killer clown. It truly makes me sad. I mean the last clown I saw was one making balloons in a Mexican restaurant. I don’t even think the rodeo clowns dress up that much any more. Just remember you are the last of a dying breed.
  23. What I wanna know is are they Christ’s glassy eyed clown eyes behind your eyes or is that just a dopey expression on your face lol?
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