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A loaded phrase. “Love” an intimate and close expression. ”ya” a generic slang phrase. Followers blend the intimate with the generic and can turn it on and off with a switch. They do the same with others lives.

Wow. Stirs up some memories. Adolph’s! We loved that place. My FIL loved Adolph and we had to go there whenever he was in town. I remember Dee Fischbaum (sp) the mayor of New Knoxville was related to Mrs VPW somehow - in laws maybe. So there was also that connection. Townies always were hyper sensitive to “the compound” as in “you live on the compound?” Howard would always be bad mouthing most of the neighbors around HQ from recollections. A lot of the TWI local members have generational roots in the local area though so I think the general attitude was tolerance toward TWI. Adolph probably could care less - it was a revenue source for that family lol.

One of the things not often mentioned when discussing TWI local relations with people in surrounding areas is the children who were dragged along while their parents were fulfilling their “spiritual dream” of “serving at HQ”. Kids in schools are bullied incessantly. Small town communities and cult compounds tend to produce that effect. Smaller towns education is different and there are less resources for specializing- sports, trades, scholarships. Much of the reaction to this is to rebel and turn to substance abuse. Kids face pressures due to parents positions and the Pharisee hierarchy. Directors kids probably are the most lonely of any. This isn’t right. Those kids deserve their own lives and unrestricted future. Parents social climbing and org climbing lusts should not compromise this. But parents are brainwashed so they trade their kids futures for their own status and advancement in the cult hierarchy. Working PR is no more than a facade covering these problems. The issue stems from using people and trading them like cattle for the leaders own lusts building fiefdoms and hierarchies.

In geometry, parallel lines are coplanar infinite lines that do not intersect at any point. Because the Word works with a mathematical exactness and scientific precision in the law of believing then we can safely produce the following mathematical corollary regarding needs and wants: If you want it you’ll never need it. If you need it you’ll never want it.

Best wishes brother! Self care is always most important. Best to the missus also have fun.

I wonder if this means they need to move the golden Vic statue named Timothy to the DRC national grounds. I mean the USA just isn’t as deserving. Maybe they could make an even bigger one to celebrate the large numbers of ambassadors! A 20 ft high Timothy statue. Now we’re talking. Show those red drapes believing! All hail the fabulous PLAFFY discovery of millenniums covered thru the ages and available to you for 99.99. Maybe they could make one of those illusion VP portraits where the eyes follow you. What could be better?

They just finished up the national construction Way buildings in the old Zaire - Democratic Republic of the Congo. Two advanced classes there and hundreds of Way ambassadors. They have been developing the DRC for twenty years or more and have worked through several categories of leaders who all were booted. This disparity in numbers reminds me a lot of VPs paper he wrote after his India trip on “The Dilemma of Foreign Missions” that stirred up a lot of controversy in his denomination. His main conclusion in his criticism was that the missionary work was more cultural appropriation of third world countries as opposed to a genuine Christian movement. Apparently his followers aren’t doing a better job of it but it’s the same old song and dance my friends.

So it breaks down to about 8 people in the USA and 892 in African countries and a couple South American countries? Those numbers tell some kind of story.

All I see is penworks sharing about working through teachings of VPW that contradicted her gut. And how VPW taught people to ignore their gut or instincts because the “word” he taught was more reliable than your instincts. That is a form of brainwashing. Most everyone who sat through PFAL more than 10 times probably had or has some kind of attachment to Wierwille. I mean all the grads used to parrot his little word slips and make up dialogue like my friends used to do at the movies with Rocky Horror Picture Show. The initial appeal to me was a group of knowledgeable committed Christians who studied scripture and were disciplined to live it. But it’s not really like that - it all gravitated towards the power and control of one person or a few initiated people. And those people decide what the true scripture interpretation is and make up rules about it. The OT talks about people being put in priests offices for morsels of bread. That is more what it’s really like - a group of personalities with their little fiefdoms of control over others in their group. And rampant idolatry blowing up VPWs work as larger than life as opposed to plagiarized content and acting which is what it really is.

No just documenting the logic hops from start to destination. In case there are others who can’t hop that fast including myself.

So connect the dots? VPW -> NPD -> sometimes stunted -> six year old -> mother-child dynamic -> helplessness???? Sure that’s so obvious I don’t see how I missed the connection between all those things

You’re using Stockholm syndrome to defend all the abused who grew up and became abusers?

The post where you said she sounded completely helpless and something about VPW and a 6 year old having the same control is something you can scroll back and review if you don’t recall. Your lack of memory seems to be the derailment here. You’re probably right on the hate I don’t have very much capacity or interest in hating TWI any more. I still call them out though so others avoid their snare and because telling the truth is freeing.

Ok but I don’t have the same Lord of the Flies view you do about young people making stupid decisions and turning themselves into animals. Once you remove the cult surroundings in my experience young people don’t really do that.

What cult is this? I must have missed this.

I was addressing a direct criticism of the authors augmented post personally attacking her life. That is not derailment it is direct on point.

Stories are only good for object lessons. And warnings to remain vigilant so the next traveling salesman doesn’t trick the gullible out of all they have saved up. Without vigilance and discernment and distinction how do you keep from wandering from cult to cult?

Now who is being the drama queen? Just like your answer to C if you don’t read it it doesn’t exist and there is a net zero effect.

I mean you are straddling a fence. Your support systems are in TWI. But you aren’t. You understand your world but not worlds outside yours. That’s pretty normal and average. This is the dilemma of the cult. Keep all the support systems under control so they can’t truly leave.

Is it available to question things without being a grade A douchebag?

Cults use whatever tool is convenient and gets the job done. From what I’ve seen it is a combo of a plea for empathy, false indignation for poor treatment of a narcissist, and a call to unity of some kind like “come on home” that is the strategy of cults. If they just left it at empathy they would be in danger of imitating Jesus Christ.

Any answer where you don’t randomly attack concepts people are sharing and ridiculing them and their life story they published would be a good start.

Umm that would be empathy. It is not simply a cult weapon it is also one of Jesus greatest characteristics taught and lived.

I read what you wrote here. It sounds completely without empathy. It sounds like you refuse to acknowledge the ties that family, friends, marriages, and long time associations produce by nature of those relationships existing. Sure at any time any of us could have escaped the bondage we endured by refusing at that moment to accept the false authority usurped by tyrants, cutting ties and leaving. So what? I find your example comparing this to hitting yourself in the hand repeatedly to be very inaccurate as well as triggering and judgmental. Ties formed by family and choices aren’t easily reversed. You can’t just wave your hand like they never existed. But that’s you so it’s par for the course.

Would you say that since you never really cut ties or burn bridges that is why your view and mind seems to be straddling a fence? Where half the time you seem like a TWI apologist and the other half critical?