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I agree with you, Waysider. Threads, because they are a collaborative effort, have a tendancy to evolve. But, as you say, there's evolution, and there's derailing with an agenda. SoCrates

Happy to help, Kit. Give your brother my best. SoCrates

I'm sorry, twinky, I know what its like to lose a pet. My mother had a French bulldog, Sir Pugsley she called him. His nickname was Pugey. Space prevents me from telling you half the things that dog carried my family through. And he did it by doing no more than being there, freely giving companionship and love. He developed lymphoma and had to be put to sleep about three years ago. I still mourn his death. I often secretly pray Pugey had a soul, an animal like him deserves to be in some type of heaven. SoCrates

I'll be glad to. Are you talking about the picture where the guys hand is painted like an eagle head? its: http://diggart.blogspot.com/2009/07/cool-funny-body-art.html SoCrates

These are sand sculpures:

Now who's sounding morally superior? "I get results, you don't." Yah, the all purpose you blaming God. So what of all those years when I wasn't blaming God? What of the twig leader that told me if I fail its God's fault? This is why I don't buy into you bull. "This works with a mathamatical accuracy and a scientific percision." But when you land flat on your face we'll make excuses. You still haven't answered my question: if everybody has an agenda, what's your agenda? SoCrates

Hate to sink your ship, dude, but my feelings about Saint Vic's doctrine came from trying it for over 30 years with no success. Rather than typing the whole thing out, I'll refer you to my first post on believing (here) As you can see, I've tried your believing. I gave it more of a chance than many others would. And when I went back to the ministry and asked why I had failed, sure I was that I would succeed, nobody had an answer. Finally, when I got somebody to cornered, you know what his answer was? "You got tricked." I agree. I was tricked by Saint Vic and his demented circus. Here's some more of his tricks. Read this post if you dare. (here) As far as you teaching, are you sure your not trying to beat life back into a horse everyone here knows is dead? You don't offer answers, just more of the doctrine of failure. Why else would you talk at people instead of to them? Most of you post cover the talking points of the ministry, rather than getting a feel for where people are at and going from there. The teacher-student relationship is also one of superior inferior. So is that really your problem? You feels so inadequete on this board that you have to appear to be superior to compensate? Which of course brings us to moral superiority: another way of saying you guys are screwed and I'm perfect. SoCrates So what's your agenda? SoCrates

Sounds like a good deal to me: you help yourself and, in the process, others get helped too. SoCrates

No matter what, ex, don't let them silence you. People who come here need to know what Saint Vic and his demented circus was really all about. I'll repeat something I have to keep reminding myself: Evil wins when good people do nothing. SoCrates

I said it before and I'll repeat it for the benefit of those of you that never heard it. According to Saint Vic, in believing, what we think the most about we become, right? Well, if that's so, we should all be female. Because that's what's most on the mind of a 14 year old boy. SoCrates

I hate to burst you bubble, but he ment all believing. Dig: According to Saint Vic, fear is negative believing right? So when bad things happen to sinners what is it? Their negative believing, right? SoCrates

Who the H-E-double hockey sticks knows? SoCrates

As I've said many times, the purpose of communication is its result. So, I'd go with my first instinct. But, so I didn't unneccessarily rip somebody a new one, I'd politely ask for clarification. Like, "What do you mean?" Give them a chance to adjust their communication if they ment a different message. SoCrates

His email is to the bibical research journal. If he's going to go over Saint Vic's material shouldn't it be the Werewille Plagerism Journal? Feature articles: •The Three-Fold Love of God, Part 1: God's Love for Us - (originally published January/February 1994) •The Three-Fold Love of God, Part 2: Our Love for God - (originally published March/April 1994) •The Three-Fold Love of God, Part 3: Walking in the Love of God - (originally published May/June 1994) •A Study of II Thessalonians Chapter 2 - (April 2007) •The Figure of Speech Antiptosis in John 1:1-2 - (May 2007) ----- I'm guessing the last time anyone did any work on this site was in 2007. SoCrates

Or you hit a glitch. SoCrates May I refer you to the definition of Cynic in Ambrose Bierce's Devil's Dictionary? It also applies to "bitterness": CYNIC, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. SoCrates Or maybe you share a common experience with them which you have trouble getting others (the non-bitter people) to understand. SoCrates

He probably doesn't have an army of drones under him to go forth and sell the class that answers no questions so he could afford spellcheck for his computer. (I hope that did sound bitter. (Now to sound like a butt kisser)) SoCrates Typing bitter text since 2010 Sorry Waysider, didn't mean to change your text. I typed that in the wrong place.

Yep, many a night I've awoken from a sound sleep and asked myself: what would it sound like if I covered a car in harmonicas? Now I know. SoCrates

You know, this whole discussion is amazing. Let's look at this situation from another viewpoint. Say Saint Vic claimed to be a brain surgeon. Say it was found out that all he had was a Parker Brothers diploma. I seriously doubt their would be this much debate over whether or not he belonged in an operating room. Not only that, but I think practicing medicine with out a license can get you some time in the crowbar motel. Yet, there are people who shrug off his phoney Doctor title. <_< SoCrates

Those were the non-bitter, unsucking up sites. :) SoCrates

I don't know, BA. I've always wondered about Wile E. Coyote. I mean, why a road runner? And then why that particular road runner? Also, if he has money for all those inventions that don't work, why doesn't he just go into a restaurant and buy something to eat? I'm here all week, folks. Enjoy the buffet. SoCrates

No doubt the sign over the living room said Student Union. The bedroom said Colorado Dorm. The other bedroom was recently renamed Werewille Dorm. The bathroom was the administration building. The kitchen was the student hang out. The family room was Fellowship Hall...you get the idea. Oh and the library was...the library. SoCrates

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dHUfy_YBps

Putting the shoe on the other foot: SoCrates

Same here, Waysider, same here. SoCrates Let's look at the other side. Even if what you say is true, Johniam, does someone's bitterness mean that a fact is not a fact? SoCrates