So_crates
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And you know which videos I watched, how? Odd, they tied free will in with physics, too. Sounds more like you couldn't defeat the concept of free will, so you decided to cheat. Change the definition. Just like they did in the videos. Didn't see any of that. Go to YouTube and search for determinism. In your opinion, as I don't know the hints I don't know if they were good or bad. As I said, the videos I watched had the same information and hypothesis you've been spiting for over 30 pages. As far as I can see you've offered nothing new.
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Oh, really?! So, like a rock, a person doesn't need food or water, right? Like a rock a person has no feelings, right? Like a rock, a person has no ability to worship God, right? As you can see, they're two different things. So? They wouldn't be the first doctors to get it wrong. Ever hear of thalidomide? Hard core science also denies the existence of God. Are they right? Really?! Then why don't the beasts drive cars and fly airplanes? Even natural men apparently have something that just a little more than the garden variety primate. So, of all the creature on Earth, why did God pick man? If he wanted to God could have done the same thing with porpoises, chimpanzees, or yetis. Why man?
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I agree. I'm waiting for Mike to tie this to the ministry and Saint Vic.
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I watched a few videos on YouTube on determinism. From what I can see you've spent the last 30+ pages rewarming everything that's already been stated. What's new in your theory?
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First logical error. A specific cannot become a universal Just as we don't expect the rules of quantum mechanics to apply to our level of reality,you can't apply inanimate rules to ANIMATE creatures. Oxygen and hydrogen have no choice in becoming water. However a man can choose whether to use his car to take children to Sunday school or be a wheel man in a bank robbery. The rules are different. Again, you trying to shoehorn in something that has nothing to do with what you're trying to prove.
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As I pointed out earlier, that unpredictability doesn't evaporate, as you claim, it gets absorbed into other unpredictable things, which, on our level become a relitively large unpredictable thing. Actually, unpredictability in human, doesgo back to free will, as free will is their ability to choose. They can choose contrary to what's predicted, hence free will leads to unpredictability. Just because we don't use free will all the time doesn't mean it isn't an option. People are more than sophisticated robots. Remember the ghost in the machine.
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Of course they're still into teaching the prosperity gospel. What else would the "abundant" in abundant living be?
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There's no typo. The point is you can make predictions in the physical world because physical laws are pretty reliable, but the human element is much more random due to people's freedom of will. Even in the physical world, however, unpredictability enters by way of quantum mechanics.
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I think I'm starting to get a bead on this. Here's where your theory is flawed: You can predict how many people will die if cancer, but you can't predict who those people will be. You can predict the amount of death due to car crashes in a year, but, once again, you can't predict who those people will be. You can predict how many people will come down with COVID, but you can't predict who those people will be. Your predictions are based on the physical world (determinism) but the who of your prediction is based on free will.
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And I thought BR549 was the phone number of a used car lot.
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OU812? Is that a phone number, like BR549?
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Word salad. We have freedom of will yet we don't? How does the brain use determinism as a tool for making decisions?
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You find compartmentalization with all binary thinkers. It often leads to projection. I'm good, they think, do what about my bad aspects, they're not with me so they must be with you. Same thing with being right.
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What?! No, maniacal laughter?
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Glad you brought PLAF up. I wonder where Mike puts believing in determinism.
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Yah, the certainty of uncertainty. Just because, you and the others have failed to find anything useful doesn't mean there isn't anything useful. What if Edison had given up after trying to make a light bulb 75 times? We'd all be watching tv by candlelight. If I were to hazard a guess, your own opinion about your theories got in your way. On a quantum level small changes occur, these lead to minor changes in the brain, which lead to changes in behavior.
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Maybe energy levels and orbital shapes and momentum, but on the quantum level, particles too are unpredictable. They're moving backward in time and being in more than one state and being two places at once. The quantum level of the universe is nothing like ours, hence the uncertainty. A group of little changes on the quantum level create a big change on our level, again, hence the uncertainty. As far as position: you can predict the position, but then you can't predict the speed. Predict the speed and you don't know the position.
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What "determinism [is] in quantum mechanics"? The two are polar opposites: one states there is no certainty; the other, certainty. So, how does one square the circle?
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So apparently Heisenberg doesn't fall into your determinism theory. Aren't the two incompatible?
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Knowledge should be humbling: the more you know, the more you should realize you don't know.
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Actually, you're the one being deceitful. What's worst, you're deceiving yourself. Do you honestly think he didn't know you knew how to use the search function? His point was: if you really wanted to know, rather then feigning ignorance with an "I don't know", you would have looked it up yourself and found out. And the capper on the whole thing is rather than realizing what he said you reduce yourself to name-calling.
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So what your telling me is that the mnistry is more interested in generating income. Why the raise in price? Other than production and class materials, the ministry has no overhead. Only 19 hours!?
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I have two questions: How much is the present new and improve version of PLAF? Do grads of the previous classes have to pay for the new one?
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Or, as Mike himself stated, a counterfeit.
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In that sense determinism is almost like being psychic. You know, when you call a psychic the first thing they ask you is for your credit card number. Shouldn't they know it already? I've always said if psychics were real they'd be calling you with the answer to you difficulty.
