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I know OS that they're obvious statements. But then, if you were like me, when you were little you always checked under your bed for monsters. You obviously knew that you just looking at the monster wouldn't stop it from hurting you. Your real motivation was you wanted it to know you knew it was there.
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I know OS that they're obvious statements. But then, if you were like me, when you were little you always checked under your bed for monsters. You obviously knew that you just looking at the monster wouldn't stop it from hurting you. Your real motivation was you wanted it to know you knew it was there.
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I know OS that they're obvious statements. But then, if you were like me, when you were little you always checked under your bed for monsters. You obviously knew that you just looking at the monster wouldn't stop it from hurting you. Your real motivation was you wanted it to know you knew it was there.
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I know OS that they're obvious statements. But then, if you were like me, when you were little you always checked under your bed for monsters. You obviously knew that you just looking at the monster wouldn't stop it from hurting you. Your real motivation was you wanted it to know you knew it was there.
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At best you won't decode him. You'll offer an opinion on what you think he's saying. Remember all those term papers and dissertations on what the white whale in Moby Dick means? And, in all probability, he probably writes that way because he's trying to give himself wiggle room if somebody challenges him. People also often write word salad style so people will read into the text what they want to read into the text. Writers with nothing to hide, hide nothing. They write clearly and to the point. Oh, and also, experience teaches me, writers trying to snow you try to add in extraneous details that have nothing to do with the point, this makes there work far longer than it should be. As a general rule: the more padding, the longer the post; the longer the post and the further off point, the greater the snow job. There are exceptions.
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Your tome brings about a few interesting question: If the determinism of the universe stated man did not receive spirit (at least for a time) what changed that allowed Jesus Christ to get spirit? If Jesus Christ was a natural man, and as you've stated previously, Natural man is like a beast, the how did he get the free will to do what he had to do to get spirit? If Christ got spirit through water baptism, why don't we? If God can only communicate with what he is, spirit, how did He impregnate Mary? Angels communicated with Joseph telling him not to worry about Mary, does this mean angels are more powerful than God, as they didn't need the spirit-spirit connection?
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Another definition for freedom of will: Tick: And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.
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Nate, do you want me to pass this one to you or should I spike it over the net?
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Sounds like you think you do. Which would employ freedom of will. Determinism would make him sure of what happen next. Wound clock running down, remember? You see it that way. I see it as, because we have freedom of will there is no telling what coming, but we must take the next step. If he knew what was coming next, as in determinism, he would stated what's coming next. In your opinion. See above. I saw the video, you don't have to tell me the astonishingly obvious, the merely obvious will do. Yah, that why you ignore everything outside your theory or try to bend everything to mean your theory, right?
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You know how he likes to play fast and loose with definitions. He defines questioning an outrageous statement as "aghast".
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Thank for clarifying the one point I made. I'll edit it accordingly.
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Just as Crick is giving his slant. Opinions are not facts.
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You apparently missed the part where he said human being were different, whereas you categorize them as beasts. You also missed the part were he said determinism and free will is asking two different questions. You're trying two marry two separate realms onto an artificial set of rules. It's like expecting the quantum realm to obey the Newtonian realm or visa versa.
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Usually liars MO is to add extraneous details to their stories for two reasons: --too many details confuse the brain shutting off critical thinking. --to add the appearance of credibility to their lies.
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100. The Way expects PLAF grads to shell out 100 skins to pay for the shorted, supposedly new and improved class. Hey, PLAF Today, they didn't even change the name--much!
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100. The Way want PLAF grads to pay $100 for a shorter, supposedly new and improved PLAF class they've already taken. Hey, PLAF Today, they didn't even bother to change the name--much.
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There's a story about a guy who went to see a psychiatrist because deluded, he believed he was a corpse. The psychiatrist tried his best to change the guy's mind. Finally, the psychiatrist asked him if corpses bleed. The guy said no. So the psychiatrist cut him. "What do you know," the guy said, "corpses do bleed." This reminds me of your claim. You. Everything is predetermined. Me. Then people aren't responsible for their actions. You. I want them responsible, so there are some freedoms. /*/*/* With one fell swoop you negated the need for the PLAF. If people are going to take it, they will. If people are going to be born again, they will. If some is going to heaven, they will regardless of what we do or don't do.
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Sounds like Saint Vic's in the soup
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So, if the universe is as deterministic as you claim, how do you have control of self? This contradicts what you said earlier, that every response is the result of something earlier.
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So, what you're saying is, even though you can't hold a person responsible because they have no control of self, you will hold a person responsible. An apparent contradiction.
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A cornerstone of determinism is that the universe is like a clock. God just wound it up and let it do its thing. If there is no free will, then there is no control over self. If there is no control over self, how do you hold anybody responsible for anything? After all, they were just following the dictates of the wound clock.
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