So_crates

Just as what we do about it is none of your business. If we choose to go on a public forum and broadcast Saint Vic's evils, that's our business, not yours. So stay in your own lane.

You mean they agree to you joining them in their whitewashing efforts. That's what your marble cake boils down to.

Remember what I said about the length of the post being directly correlated with someone's efforts to con you? Here is a case in point. Rather than a direct response, Mike takes us around the block and starts pointing out trees. This word salad is designed to cover up and confuse. I've done that, he's said. Sure you have. That's why I ask you to be specific about the good Saint Vic has done and all I get is your Ralph Kramden impression, hominy, hominy, hominy...

Meanwhile, they said, Fork over the Ben Franklin Now that they got what they wanted, why should they care? Second oldest trick in the book. The first is let there be light. Only twigs, huh? You need to turn some of that suspiciousness you have for us toward them. With them its all about the Benjis. They're not there for God any more than Saint Vic was. Just stop giving them money and watch what happens.

You keep refering to good in the abstract. Get specific.

Dude they're charging for a class I took three times in the '70s. If that isn't money hungry please tell me what is. And do you think they'll tell you the truth about Saint Vic? Now tell me the one with the three bears.

Sorry I can't put myself in the place of a person that thinks everyone is attacking him. Nor can I put myself in a place where I would defend a piece of human refuse like Saint Vic. But then, this is just a way of you preventing from admitting that you don't know how T-Bone is damaging himself and others, isn't it?

Go through the archives here, they're full of actions witnessed by others.

Just as all you can "know" of him is what a group that has the ulterior motive of relieving you of as much of your cash as they can tells you. I choose not to believe them or you.

Like Saint Vic's words and actions...

If I was to go by the witness of Saint Vic's life, I'd say God to Saint Vic was money and sex.

Except for Saint Vic of course, who was more out of fellowship then in, and yet, according to you...

And just how is T-Bone damaging himself and others? Or don't you believe the truth will set you free?

Don't feel bad, Nate. Notice: He's copping out about Saint Vic's responsibility for the Corps being what it is. He's copping out about God being able to speak to Adam after Adam lost spirit.

So, if Saint Vic was dissatisfied with it, why didn't he change it? Once again, the responsibility for what it is lies on his shrugging shoulders. Yes, you do hold their Corp service against them. Witness how you respond to T-Bone and OldSkool.

Again, you're trying to muddy the water. According to the class, Adam knew what he did that's why he was hiding when God came looking for him. For somebody who spent 20+ years studying the class, you sure didn't learn a lot.

It'll distract them from heavenly rewards as much as your Greasespot "service" will distract you from heavenly rewards.

In the class, no less. Mike you did say you studied the class for 20 years, didn't you? How'd you miss that?

You do realize the Corps was Saint Vic's baby, don't you. He was supposed to train them. So any complaints you have about the Corps you can lay square on Saint Vic's shoulders, weak as they may be.

Logic would dictate that if the new birth is immediate then so should spiritual "death" be. I doubt the spirit is like a computer that needs to be booted up and shut down.

And naturally, innocent lamb that you are. you would never attack anyone personally, right? And what do you think you're doing when you attack T-Bone's or OldSkool's Corps service?

I'm sure, if you checked historical records, that Hitler helped a lot of people, too. As did Lenin and Stalin, not to mention Dahmer.

So, if spirit can only talk to spirit, how did God call out to Adam after he ate the forbidden fruit? How did God make that soliloquy about the result of Adam's disobedience?

For someone who has bragged about all the time he spent studying written PLAF you sure didn't learn a lot. God cannot lie because God is light and in Him there's no darkness. Lying would be considered darkness, as there are many verses prohibiting it.

Seems to me you didn't learn a whole lot. Sheep. Goats. Remember?