ChasUFarley

I think what has bothered us as Americans the most about this ordeal with Terri's death isn't the battle between her husband and family or agreeing that the state she was in wasn't really "living", BUT the fact that all it took to pull the plug, so to speak, was the simple removal of a feeding tube. It certainly seems barbaric enough - I mean, who would intentionally starve themselves to death in two weeks to commit suicide? In this country we have to, by law, protect and feed our children, right? If we don't we are not good parents - we'll go to jail! Same goes with our pets. So, how do we justify the removal of a feeding tube - the only "life support" this woman had - as a way to provide her with her last wishes? It sounds horrific, yet it is done every day in hospices, hospitals and even at-home deaths. Although this has been done for years it does not seem like a "humane" way to end a life. So... I think the bigger issue, really, is that America needs to better define the "humane" way to the end life and consider better care and comfort measures for terminal patients - and especially euthanisia. This is a funny country we live in. Americans will talk about sex on prime-time TV, watch people eat god-knows-what on reality shows, but still have our heads in the sand about death... and we have the biggest generation ever of Americans hitting the elder-stages of life... God help us. (I will now don my flack jacket and helmet because I'm sure the fur will fly...)

A Time to Kill Ewan McGregor The Lord of The Rings: The Two Towers

awwww.... wuv u 2! So... not to derail this... I'll give it another shot and see if I can do any better... Kids need a sitter So dude looks like a lady With a Brit accent

Peeps must BURN! BURN! BURN! Maw-waaah-haa-haa-ha-ha-haaaa!

Here's proof Peeps are evil! Here's a Peep dressed as Gandolf the Grey... Peeps as Wizards = EVIL!

Doesn't WC training all happen at Gunnison these days? Last I heard, Gr*g & Lo^i B*lch@lk were the WC coordinators there... I don't know if that's still the case, but if so... Well... ...if your family who is going in the WC have any heart or human characteristics left in them then you won't have to worry about them being in the WC training for long!

Glorified marshmellows - that's all those things are! Gimme Cadbury's Caramel Eggs any day - that's real candy! Peeps are evil! Marshmellow spawn of Satan, I say!

I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this, but earlier this week my 3 year old asked me what "Easter" was... I am lost at how to explain it to him in terms that he can understand. I was able to somewhat explain Christmas to him this year. I was unpacking the nativity set and he was "helping". It was the perfect moment to tell him about baby Jesus... He "got it". How do I explain that baby Jesus grew up and then died and was resurrected? I don't want my kid thinking that Easter is about candy and rabbits and eggs... but I also don't want to scare him or even just talk over his head... HELP!

Okay.... FINE! BE THAT WAY! (but remember... I'm getting about 2-3 hours of sleep a night these days with the new baby... it will take me a couple of days to figure out you were messing with me... really...) :D-->

coolchef - yes, dana was the LC in Maine for sometime - mid-late 80's, I believe... He was the LC when I got involved in '88 with the Sanford WOWs. Dana was replaced by W@lter R*wen in the spring of '89. ================== QUESTION FOR Y'ALL: In all the years that y'all were in TWI, and all the people and/or things you were told were "possessed", did you ever see leadership cast out a devil spirit? I remember seeing a lot of fingers pointed at people but not hearing the words, "in the name of Jesus Christ..." spoken...

Sharon -- I didn't think anyone else in the world liked pop-corn jellybeans but me! Love 'em! They're also great mixed with caramel jellybeans (carmel corn, don't cha know) or with cinnamon red hots - yum!

You mean to tell me that they aren't at least reviewing Jesus Christ Our Passover for the one million, nine hundered ninety-nine thousand, nine hundered ninety-nineth time? (Actually, I found that and Jesus Christ Our Promised Seed some of the better or more interesting books they had but hated the review techniques that most leadership liked to use - it reminded me of a second grade book report!)

Raf - You might want to check out Tiger Direct if you do decide to build your own. www.tigerdirect.com. Also - stay away from "bundles" - you know, where Best Buy or whomever has a deal with monitor, printer, tower, etc., etc., all picked out. Go with a larger monitor than you think you need since you spend a lot of time on the 'puter - and - like igotout said - get some nice speakers for yourself. You deserve it. What are you doing still using CompuServ? Get a real ISP, will ya?

Raf- By process of elimination it's Lord of the Rings: The Return of The King There were three rings - the one that Frodo had was the one to rule them all. There were orcs (the ugly creatures - the bad guys). 'Precious' is what Golum called the ring (later, Frodo called the ring 'precious', too. Mount Doom is where Frodo had to take the ring. Strider (aka Aragorn) is the one who became the king at the end...

I was living with some WC who were really into colon health and got talked into trying a cleanse... The first week was hell. I had NEVER done drugs in my life, other than cigs and caffeine, and felt like I was going through the dt's that a crack addict would have experienced... I swear I "re-had" every cold, flu and other bug I'd ever had in my life. YUCK! The second week was better - things evened out. The last couple of days I started back on real food - that is, sauerkraut. It was the best pickled cabbage I've ever tasted. When it was all over I'd lost about 10+lbs and (this sounds gross but...) I'd always had a number of tiny warts on my hands - they were just gone! Poof! If I ever have two weeks that I know I'll have a bathroom all to myself, a couple of cases of tp, and a vat of sauerkraut, I'd be glad to do it again!

Please enlighten me... Wha'z up with the damnbanners? (I mean, bandanners?)

I traded the smokes for a caffeine addiction... Caffeine is more socially acceptable... you don't have to go outside to enjoy it, even at work or your in-law's house... it makes you very productive... you don't have to be a certain age to get it... the stores that sell it aren't closed on Sundays (we have "blue laws" in my state)... you can get it out of a machine, at a drive thru, from your neighbour or for "free" when you're grocery shopping... the companies that make it aren't being sued up the whazoo for making it or for people being addicted to it... if someone else smells it, they usually don't complain but ask to join you for a cup of it... you can't smoosh it when you sit on it... you don't have caffeine and non-caffeine seating in restaurants... you don't have to buy a special "caffeine addicts" package when you order your new car because all cars come with cup holders... you don't need a lighter or matches, so it's more kid-friendly... you can get it hot, cold, in tablet or liquid form - it doesn't matter... you won't wear out your welcome with your friends if you bum a cup of joe off them every now and then - but see what happens after you've bummed your second cig off them! Can you tell I've had too much coffee today? Anyhow.... Here's my quitting story.... I was 21 years old and had just gotten married to husband 1.0 when we both hit the financial skids within a month. He was fired from his job and the company I worked for called Hooters had a cut back in hours. After rent and the basic utilities were paid, we had barely enough money for gas & cigs. Oops! I forgot the food! I remember we had $16 between the two of us for gas and food and cigs one week. So, we bought a ton of Ramen noodles, a jar of peanut butter, a loaf of bread and some powered milk. That was it! What little money we had left went to gas. We quit smoking using the "Poverty Method". It was painful but effective and lasting, as we were always broke! Congrats to you Raf - and everyone else - who has kicked the habit!

Maybe I'm not the only one here to make this observation but it seems like *Oldiesman* follows after *rascal* posting that he/she should just "get over it".... Oldies - in case you've never noticed people seldom "get over it" by just being told to "get over it". Have you had a great emotional loss in life? (Death, divorce, or even the break up of a long-term relationship...) How would you feel, if you had tried to talk about your experience and hurt, to have someone constantly telling you "get over it"? It wouldn't work, would it? You can come back and say, "Yes, it would!" just to be contrary but to use some *TWI Math*: "Get Over It" = "Forget It=Don't Talk About It=I Don't Want To Hear It!=YOU DON'T MATTER" It seems to me that you're telling *rascal* that he/she doesn't matter because his/her views or experiences or emotions don't matter to you. Hence, "get over it." It's really a cowardly way of providing counsel, don't you think? If you don't like what *rascal* has to say, why do you have to make a big deal out of it? You've done it on other threads - not just this one. Would you walk into a public restroom just so you can bitc# about the smell? Your "get over it" posts are rude - even if you don't "mean it that way"... One of the rules to posting here - other than obstaining from harassing behavior and personal attacks, is to be *considerate* of other posters. Sometimes *consideration* comes in the form of silence. After posting on Waydale and GSC for over 5 years I've noticed something -- People who come to the forums with a lot of "emotional baggage" and needing an outlet often "mellow" after a while. Some take more time than others. Just because *rascal* hasn't met your expectations with how he/she deals with things doesn't give you the right to judge, does it? You decide. Peace.

Everything old is now "new" again... Charlie' Angels The Dukes of Hazard Starsky & Hutch ...lots of other re-makes... As long as they leave "I Love Lucy" alone, I'll be happy... ...and if they don't, I don't want to know about it!!

Ever meet someone famous... or at least, well-known? The first person I remember meeting whose name I *recognized* was... (please don't laugh...) Gavin McLoed You'd know him as the captain of the Love Boat. It was 1987, I was a junior in high school and working a summer job at a Bass shoe outlet in Wells, ME when he and his wife came in to buy some shoes. I remember having one of those "don't-I-know-you?..." feelings but knew exactly who he was when they passed me a credit card "Ah-HA!" I didn't say anything about knowing his name... but remember he wore a size 10.5D in bucs. When I was living in Nashville I met several people who were household names. There was a couple members of the Statler Brothers, Wynonna, k.d. lang, and some others. But, as someone who really isn't into country music, it didn't really rock my world. They were all pretty nice or pretty aloof (k.d. was the worst - Wynonna wasn't much better)... A couple of summers ago, in my little hic town in NH (which doubles in size in the summer because it's on the biggest lake in the north-east) I was getting ice cream at a local stand... There were a couple of a long-haired, heavily tatooed guys in front of me and they had *chicks* (read: lots of flesh showing)hanging on them. The guys and the gals were both wearing some serious bling-bling. They were seriously out of place in a town where denim and flannel are worn all four seasons. After he got his strawberry double scoop, I recognized one of them as Sully of Godsmack. The others... well... they got chocolate.

"There was a time I could see. And I have seen, boys like these, younger than these, their arms torn out, their legs ripped off. But there isn't nothin' like the sight of an amputated spirit, there is no prosthetic for that..." This is one of the best rants in a movie, ever!

Oh, WordWolf... That movie would just have to be... The Rocky Horror Picture Show Not a virgin, are you?

Highlights of my haiku: 3 rings Orcs Prescioussss Mt. Doom Extra Hint: Strider gets a crown.

In the late 90's they quit uprooting and relocating WC as quickly as they used to... I wonder if they moved WC around so much because they had messed up an area as badly as possible (read: ABS income had dropped), so they were relocated under the guise of, "They've-lost-their-effectiveness-in-the-area-because-y'all-are-so-comfortable-with-them..." (Ever hear THAT one?) When they quit moving people around so much it was after the WC who were "fill-time" (er, I mean, "full-time") had had to go back to find "full-time day jobs". I had the impression the moves were limited because the funds to move them around were limited... One other "excuse" I remember that they used to not move people around, at least in my area, was that it wasn't a need because the believers had moved closer to the leadership or the cities. That being said... The Dead Sea was dead because it had no outlet. The members (yes, members!) of TWI have no honest outlet - every move, every moment, every word - is basically scripted and it's NEVER DONE EXACTLY RIGHT... It wouldn't matter how much Godly inspiration someone had to speak the Word - it seemed like if leadership was within earshot they would come up with a way that it could have been done better or how that person who was being spoken to "wasn't discipleship material" and we were wasting our breath. In short, it's hard to speak when you feel like you're being suffocated...

Ring... ring... ring... no "hi"* Orc you gonna answer that? Preciousss to Mt. Doom *First line edited from "hello" to "hi" for the right number of syllables. All apologies to my fellow posters...