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As for the major advancements following Roswell, you mentioned Dot.....The same neighbor I spoke of before, Has a friend whos *job* for the government shortly following the roswell incident was to take complicated looking componenets ( it seems to me he said some were damaged)....to different companies, and ask them to investigate and if possible duplicate them. These companies became big over night with HUGE technological breakthroughs...I can ask him again if you want me to.......which ones they were. Though I recognised the names then, I don`t remember who they were now. My neighbor was so convinced of his buddies veracity.....he took a week or two`s vacation and started poking around roswell......he found some fascinating evidence that it was more than just a weather balloon.

Lol Good point Zix........that reminds me of my 6 year old when he asks me why he can`t DRIVE yet..........hee hee I just tell him (much to his annoyance) don`t worry honey......SOMEDAY... you WILL be old enough, and that there is much yet to learn before you are going to be ready to do so safely!

I don`t know........just because the bible doesn`t see fit to mention life on other planets or planets being suitable for our habitation.......does not necessarily make them non existant. There are LOTS of areas, this is but one... that the bible doesn`t cover specifically. I have a neighbor,,.....a retired methodist minister has a very interesting *take* on it all. He believes that the stars are out there for us to reach for.....he believes that it`s God`s intention that we be fruitfull and multiply..and spread beyond the confines of this particular planet.........and why not? He figures it is only a matter of time before we advance technologically enough to accomplish this. Right or wrong, what I am trying to say is......we don`t KNOW where we are headed....if there are habitable planets....or future bretheren that we are unaware of at present. Think about it....when God gave the *word* to the judeans.......if you would have tried to tell THEM what advancements would be made in the future......the different continents (worlds) they would spread to .....that THEIR decendants would fly through the air to reach their destinations.... That they would be able to speak/ send images instantaneously a world away.....that one day be able to float in space above this planet....heck microwave ovens .......refridgerators.... AIRCONDITIONING even!! Heck they wouldn`t have been able to even accept the idea that the nasty gentiles and dirty heathens were gonna have access to God one day, based on what the sacred scriptures had to say at the time!!!! lol The Judeans and early christians would never EVER have been able to believe or understand what would was going to be available to the human race .......what God had in store for mankind based simply on what the *scriptures* contained! Lol......Don`t you see? We don`t know where scientific advancements are going to take us! It is foolish to turn a blind eye to the heavens and what God might have in store for us ....based on what mans *current* understanding of scriptures that were written, and intended for judean tribesman 3000 years ago. Maybe God is waiting for us to quit fighting amongst ourselves long enough to focus on learning what we need to know (ie grow up) lol to expand further to explore the places, discover the suprises, and possibly even our fellow denesins in this great universe that he has prepared for us! What I am trying to say is that......We don`t necessarily know WHAT God`s full plan is for the human race or where he intends for us to finally end up before the final *trump* sounds.....not by a LONG shot! Ok.....so now you KNOW I am certifiable........lol CathyWs12 CathyWs12

I dunno socket creep, but I can TOTALLY realate. It is the same for me as well. My husband had a very strong reaction to the poor 5 year olds death this morning as well......and he is really an unemotional person. I wonder if it isn`t something to do with just us being older, and growing more mature. The term *calloused youth* comes to mind. I think it is because now that I have children, I am able for the first time to realise how horrible the death of ANY one of these sweet, blameless little souls is.......whether it be mine or someone elses....

My 12 year old son LOVES to bake, I copied this for him, and He can`t wait to try it out! I had read this years ago, but never bothered to copy it down, I am glad to have it now, thanks!

Thanks Abby, I look forward to reading more.

I KNEW what a strong courageous woman you were, but I had no IDEA what you had been forced to endure. Your narrative so CLOSELY mirrors what many many marriages were like in twi. I remember how degrading the *you WILL submit to sex* was...I at times so detested my mate........but *preformed* no matter what I felt, because I was told taht it was my *duty* I remember the rages, when the husband came home because something hadn`t been done correctly or the children had broken something. I remember no matter how hard the kids n I tried, it was never good enough.......there was always SOMETHING we needed to be reproved for. This was how twi TRAINED the men to be.......it is all so sad and sick in hindsight. I put up with my husbands drunken rages for EIGHT YEARS AFTER we left twi........just because I had been taught that it was my spiritual duty, and if I wanted to be a Godly woman....I would meekly accept whatever Hubby cared to dish out. I honestly believed it was my FAULT that he was so miserable .........same crap that you were taught.....if I`d just have sex with him more and keep the house cleaner........EVEYTHING would be ok.....we still acted this way for YEARS after leaving. Women had NO rights in twi,,,,the ONLY thing they were there for was to serve the men.....so that the men could serve God`s people. We were alowed NO input NO outside interests...No personality....Basically we were wombs to recieve their sperm. Many husbands look back and are heartily ashamed of the behavior visited upon their mates and children.......some sadly NEVER wake up to the perversions of their marriages that twi indoctrinated us into believing was Godly.....even AFTER they leave twi! Abigail friend.....please forgive me for going into a tirade on your thread.......but your treatment as well as mine, and far to many of our dear sisters...STILL enrages me.

Thanks Goe, thanks dex........I haven`t been able to get into chat either..........that link fixed me right up... breathing a huge sigh of relief, due to satisfaction of getting her *chat fix* CathyWs12

I love you girl, thankyou for having the guts to open your heart, and expose the vile evilness of twi. What they did to you and your dear, sweet son is abominable, how horribly cruel. I hope those cowardly mother f------s .......suposed leaders.....that didn`t even have the guts to even face you honestly, fry in hell. How truly sick and depraved they are, to destroy a sweet believers heart and life. I hope there is some special form of excruciatingly painfull, and long lasting punishment, being held in store for those who perpetrate such horrific cruelty on one of God`s beloved children. I understand the horror of false accusation, from those in whom you have placed your trust. I understand the humiliation, and the desperation to try to make them understand,that it must have all been a big mistake. Unfortunatly, it happened alot in twi. Having been falsly accused myself once, of being possessed, and knowing at least 3 other dear ladies who were slandered and cast out, for being suposed lesbians(incidently..all of whom are happily married, with up to 6 children each rofl) Twi leadership were/are abiding in such deep darkness. They couldn`t POSSIBLY recieve much less recognise a message from God. What monsters they are, hiding behind the bible to perpetrate their evil on poor unsuspecting believers, whose biggest sin, is wanting to be of service to the God they love. grrrrrrrrrr CathyWs12