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GREAT Herbal!!!! You will bring your patient kindness and your gentle sense of humour, also, and most importantly, do not forget your quiet reasonability to smooth over any rough spots in the road :-) What wouldda weenie roast be without our beloved benevolent dictator???? Is cam coming?

Not a problem Allan, I am not criticizing your apreciation for what you have learned. SOME of it was ok....I myself am still sorting the wheat from the chaff... Sometimes when I am writing I address several ideas at once without drawing a line of distinction. 2nd James wants to critisize us for being disgusted with twi after becoming aware of the heinous acts that ol vp n craig perpetrated on our unsuspecting families..... Ya know....it is like having a favorite restauraunt and you have been dragging all of your friends co workers, family to it for decades....everyone you know eats there...you don`t bother ever ever even trying ANY other restauraunt or type of foods becauise you like THIS particular one so well....and every one KNOWS it is simply the *best* .... n then one day you don a pair of glasses and realize that the little bits of what you thought were minced onion, have really been maggots on your burger all along......upon further investigation you find out that the food is being prepared in an disgustingly unsanitary manner as well, and you begin to realise that all of those stomache bugs and flue symptoms that you have been suffering from are due to salmonella and ecolli ingested at this place. You TRUSTED these people to prepare wholesome nutritious food for your consumption...you paid them VERY well to provide you with the quality food that the menu promised....and you find out that they have been providing substandard spoiled food, that has caused you and your family great discomfort. Now what do you do? Continue to endorse this restauraunt with your former exuberance because you once believed that the food was good? (Is this not what James is advocating?) Oh he ll no, you report them to the co health dept....you tell all of your friends that there are maggots in the food, and you find yourself a different restaurant to eat at. You might have to try a few to find one that suits your particular tastes....some folks get adventurous and try different types of restaurants...some even begin to eat at home, because they don`t dare trust food preperation any where. Some folks just get take out from the same old restaurant, figuring as long as they aren`t IN that actual building, that they will still find the quality food that they thought once was served.... It is very sad to see family and friends ignoring our dire warnings and continuing to troop into the same restaurant to pay exorbident prices for spoiled food that has little of no nutritional value because they have been told by the restaurant manager that they might as well learn to LIKE the anemic contaminated food because there is not ANY thing else out there. The restaurant manager and the people who profit from the unwholesome practices, are livid that we DARE criticize the place, and threaten daily, any whom have the nerve to do so....but the only ones that they can really hurt anymore is those who actually come into the place. I am here to say ...*Pssst, hey buddy, there are maggots in your sandwitch....there are plenty of other places in town to get a decent burger* N then I meet someone else who says *no KIDDING? I found a wad of hair in MY food*...and the next guy says..*dang I thought I was the ONLY one...my waiter sneezed blowing boogers into MY meal*....and so we compare horror stories affirming our resolve of the necessity to warn others.... Of course this seems to really upset people whom still want to believe the meal they ingested was wholesome... It also seems to disturb people who own franchises of this restaurant ...as they don`t want people turned off from their menu`s I guess. Anyway, maybe they don`t want us beating the dead horse any more because they are waiting, and as soon as no one is looking, they are going to process and serve the poor putrid beast, passing it off to unsuspecting customers as filet mignion (sp?). Bon apetite....

wwjla, I read the directions on the back of a jiffy pop while camping last week..... It said that you hadda do it onna stove...absolutely not over open flame.... So it really wasn`t your fault that it didn`t turn out when we attempted to cook it over the campfire.

Never seen a camel, but we DO have Amish horses and buggies park at our walmart....there are even specially marked parking spots with hitching posts :-)

Guys......every time you post about the *truth* all I can see is my poor brother and sister in Christ being destroyed by that very same mouth that was speaking the truth to you.....these sickos committed atrocities against our friends and families and yet you wanna still sing their praises....yuck The thing IS....twi is STILL destroying people. As of a few months back they were still covering for a pedophile...trying to intimidate the victim and the mother into not pressing charges. The evil of twi is alive and well....and it is our responsibility to keep shouting the warning as long as there is breath left in our bodies... Contrary to your allegations of us being dumb or foolishly beating a dead horse....Confronting evil and warning others of the snare set before them, cutting the ties that bind the captives are all noble, honorable, and necessary undertakings. It is our responsibility, our duty to not turn a blind eye to the evil, or pretend that it didn`t/doesn`t exist .....though I understand it IS tempting to do so in order to still be able to feel just a littlebit special about ourselves in good conscience. Kindda tough to feel that same old pride when one finally understands that they once participated in supporting great evil...eh?

OK, thanks Cindy and WW, that makes things a little clearer.

Cool BEANS bow, the girls will be thrilled ... Sudo, the campfire area hangout sounds great.... I think that I will bring hot dogs and burgers for a lunch ....so kiddoes have a chance to roast their hot dogs (no poison oak on the fire this time pleeeease they were covered head to toe from the smoke from the last one... grimace) Hot choc and smores fixins a must.... Is this a state park?

Allan, vp was the one who taught lcm ... he was just as spiritually nasty some believe more so.... he was simply more subtle is all. As a matter of fact, as far as I can tell, lcm wasn`t too bad a guy before becoming involved with twi. Rumors of Vp`s bad behavior on the other hand, can be traced back to his high school days. He was just a little more clever at the manipulation game is all. Neither are to be trusted, nor do they deserve our respect.

Warm fuzzies about the people? Oh yeah....me too, definatly. I just don`t equate the wonderfull people with the ministry. I know a wonderfull spiritual woman who teaches occasionally at the mormon church. It is the spirit of God that works in her to provide such heart and insight....it doesn`t make her church a place that I would be comfortable in. Don`t you see? It was the spirit of God that worked in individual people...it was twi, that hijacked their tallents and hid behind them ...they were enabled to preform great evil.... because what the REST of the people saw was the honest christians that brought their gifts and spirituality WITH them. I have seen this in churches since leaving as well...you have a couple of really strong genuine chrisitians who love and inspire people, but behind the scenes, you have the decons and the board members who can be quite corrupt and cruel. As with twi, it doesn`t inspire me with any respect for their denomination, or the leaders whom use the believers as shields to mask their activities, nor their leaders whom use these dear folks, their tallent and their status in the community to improve the prestige of their church.

What *I* have difficulty understanding ... is how folks are still able to enjoy warm fuzzies for a ministry who`s top leaders were seducing, at times reportedly drugging and even rapeing our sisters, destroying families and forcing abortions, covering for pedophiles...... (to name a few)in between their sessions of sharing the *truth* with the rest of us...or how one could have ANY confidence or trust in those leaders interpretation of the scriptures. Damn right we are eager to pronounce sentence...hopefully though, they will have to answere to a higher court someday for the ultimate sentencing.

But it was to benefit Voldemort....Couldn`t have done much cause quirrel died.

God is God, People are people AND evil is EEEVIL! Why did we defend twi so strongly 2nd James? Simply because at the time, the evil was hidden from us and we were unaware of it`s presence (we were decieved). Why are we eager to pass sentance now? It is very simple, now the EVIL has been exposed for all to see....It is our privelege and responsibility to make others aware of the danger. Like Jesus and the Pharisees, Jesus and the money changers, Jesus and ANYBODY who hurt God`s people not to mention little children.....we confront evil untill it backs down and slinks away with tale tucked tightly between the legs. Why would this be so difficult to understand?

Dott, the place I was thinking about is called *country choice* It is a group of apt. built by retirees who could no longer afford fla. There are units to rent from original folks (round 350.00) who have since passed away or you can build your own for about 55 k. There is a swimming pool and a community room. Some folks like to garden, there is aprox 38 acres of woodlands to enjoy. We live close to Franklin Tn, Pulaski, Fayetteville, but are still in the county where we enjoy the deer in the yard at night, sometimes hear the coyotes sing.....we are a little over an hour from nashville`s airport or Huntsville`s airport. Big cities close by but still the flavor of the country. Very nice people in the area...MANY of them Fla refugees. Pretty property around here goes for around 2000 an acre so, is quite reasonable to pick up a few and put a home or park an rv on.

How does this relate to the unicorns blood he drank (can`t remember which book but Harry saw it when he was in the forest doing detention with Hagrid, Neville, and Malfoy) ? Remember .... there was a big deal about slaying the pure and that it gave him some kind of life or immortality.

OK, is anybody going to camp? I am bringing my rv. I will probably pack my tent as well. I will take the breakfast that sushi doesn`t, though my b&g certainly cannot compare with his... It is helpfull if someone brings paper products, and plastic ware....

I am familiar with chattanooga area and west...Pulaski, Fayetteville, etc. I know of a nice *planned community* next door that my Mom rents an apartment in. You can rent or build your own. People here are very very nice.

Guess I am just a wee bit self conscious of posting on a thread bearing my own name :-)

Lol ...

Sounds great wwjla....does this mean that you can attend too? WOOOHOOO! Sounds wonderfull....are we all agreed then that ky is the most advantagious for those who wish to attend? Damn it Oak.... we NEED you at the roast.....sigh I`d like to vote that it be near an attraction like the land bridge or the caves ...you know something that I normally wouldn`t get to see. Sudo... am looking forward to seeing you AND your stew pot again :-)

Yeds ma`am lol, didn`t know that I was supposed to acknowledge...hee hee. Message recieved, answere confirmed :-)

Gosh Mr. Hamm, I am so sorry that we missed you I would have loved to have met you....:-( The location was moved because I was running late....(a long story involving a nut job Mom deciding to tag along at the last miniute) Can you come to the weinie roast in oct? It truly was a joy to meet up with old friends....to finally meet face to face with folks I have chatted to for years.... My 5 yr old as she started to fall asleep after the end of a long evening ..... blissfully whispered...*THANK you Mommy for bringing me to where Annie (bow`s princess) is* .... and promptly began to snore.... My Aaron was SO engrossed with Abby`s Aaron, that he (my aaron) forgot to get in trouble the entire visit ...gotta be SOME kind of record there....lol Shell`s *K* was such a sweety to all of the girls....the perfect hostess...they had a wonderfull WONDERFULL time... Gotta ask though....Why did she lock herself in her room shell...did somebody hurt her feelings? (wondering if my children need a beating) She sure was tickled with the shower head eh? Getting to hold sweet Kailin and rock her to sleep was a joy....Mark enjoyed it as well... Oen, ...always a privelege, I have thought much about our conversation.....so much makes sense, thankyou. Paw, as ever a privelege, the dinner was a lot of fun, At least this time you were not forgotten and got to eat with the rest of us...( I am thinking about the lack of bacon at prior gatherings;-) Bow I don`t feel like I got to see nearly enough of you....you`d damn well better get to the weinie roast so that we can finish catching up;-) Abby, can`t wait to see you guys in oct.. Shellon, thanks for your hospitality girl, thanks for all of you effort in coordinating folks who refused to cooperate....lol...thank you girl, it was very special for me ....would LOVE to go to see your cabin next year...I would have loved to have stayed longer but had antsie mother to deal with... Oh and John, I now bow to you as the new reigning biscut and gravey queen...lol and hereby pass to you my crown and staff :-)

Shellon, it takes us about 7 hours to get to Lansing.....we are trying to get ready in time to make one last trip to superior for stones. Thanks for the offer...will attempt to call as soon as my cell has range (mackinack bridge). I am SOOOOO looking forward to this....it deffinatly softens the angst at having to leave the beautifull U.P. and having to head back to Tenn with all of the heat and responsibilities...

We are starting to close the cabin today in order to be ready to head south early friday morning. One more day in the gorgeous north woods ..sigh.... Looking forward to seeing you folks!

THATS what is so very much fun belle, the rediscovering of ourselves. We have been given a precious gift.....we are able to fully apreciate and enjoy persuing our interests....something most people just take as a matter of course.....our pleasures, our accomplishments are even more to be savored because of our awareness of how precious this freedome is. What has been of enjoyment to me, wouldn`t necesarily work for you.... Karate classes, Theatre, humane society, softball, church, work, horse training, etc. are the things that I enjoy and meet people doing. Things I intend to do in the future....classes on quilting, water color painting, or sculpture ....maybe join the county volunteer fire/rescue dept. I may train a dog for search and rescue to travel (I trained one while in twi, but was never able and travel) around the country (world ?) aiding in disasters and finding lost children.... The options are wide open...it is so exciting. Maybe you could go to the book store and peruse the titles to find areas of interest. I find these to be the most exciting and fulfilling days of my entire life..... you will be back on your feet in no time Belle, just try to remember to have fun we have earned that privrlege after all of these years of privation..

VERY good points word wolf.