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  1. Yeah...what MO said.... I will continue to *cry wolf* for as long as the wolf remains disguised as a sheep...untill all can see what lies benieth cunningly designed sheeps clothing... Thus destroying his credibility, the credibility of his doctrine and destroy the effectiveness of his ministry to seduce people away from God with his false doctrines :) Dunno how you get *hate* outta that <_<
  2. Hmm vpw or scriptures vpw or scriptures who ARE we to believe?? Walking in the flesh or walking in the spirit.... Funny oldies, but since leaving twi, I haven`t seemed to have had a challenge in any of these catagories....just one more of those things that make you go hmmmmm
  3. I can think of no greater compliment to the incredible woman who was my Grandmother that bore that name. If you are serious Belle, someday I will tell you about this marvelous woman who bore that name so you can in turn tell your child :) CW...it was truly one of the highlights of my life. So many many incredible caring people loving and praying with us... The baby even recieved two stuffed animals from Australia where one one poster was vacationing at the time. The folks in chat sent a wonderfull basket of plants...I planted them right outside my computer room window where Z`s garden still blooms every spring :)
  4. Because for weeks she was over due...people stayed up all night long in chat with me when I couldn`t sleep because of the contractions....there was a contest to pick the date/time/sex/ etc People would say they were boiling water.... timing the contractions...back rubs...so when the event actually happened....since I was giving birth at home.... it was natural to continue in chat... My mid wife and mark provided updates when I was unable....They were amazed and touched by how sweet everyone was.... They labored with me, cried for me, provides support and laughter. I truly felt like I had the biggest birth support team in the history of women giving birth...lol Honestly, I could feel the love and support, and rested peacefully in the miriad of prayers and love pouring in from all over the country :) So she was dubbed the *waydale* baby. I felt like the most fortunate woman on the planet to have been the recipient of so much love.
  5. Ummm.. It COULD, if after plagerizing truth from others..he perverted it with his own spin. Thus you have morphed perverted plagerized truth....makes sense to me :)
  6. Hmmm, It would appear to negate what we learned in twi.
  7. I certainly don`t know where and when Oldies became such an authority on what *rascal* believes.. ....but lets get this straight shall we? I BELIEVE that when Jesus said that by their *fruit* ye shall know them...he meant precisely just that.... I BELIEVE that when Galatians say that manifestation of certain behaviors are the direct result of people being of the *flesh*..it means precisely just that... I BELIEVE that when Galations says that those who are guilty of being of the *flesh* have NO inheritance in the kingdom of God....it means precisely just that.... Go on and try to justify why we are to ignore clear instructions in the scriptures in favor of twi dogma, and ignoring peoples viscious and destructive behavior.....but this certainly isn`t about me or my opinions or my beliefs here...it is about what scriptures themselves declare concerning vpw`s actions...and the validity of his ministry and doctrine.
  8. Galatians says that *fruit* is basically a spiritual measuring stick....the difference between a spirit filled Christian and a wannabe imposter. It is the difference between the genuine and counterfit...an inheritance in the kingdom of heaven or not...IF you believe the scriptures. Why did we need it spelled out so clearly? I suppose because it is so hard to tell from the outside what is on the inside of a person. Folks can be mighty deceptive....who knows, maybe even mistaken...that is why taking note of what a person manifests is vital. You have not given a valid argument for the dismissal of the evidence and clear instructions given to warn and protect us from false prophets.
  9. I only see that in THIS case it would appear that you do not have a valid argument to counter what is clearly stated in the scriptures...
  10. Exactly CM... Also in looking back upon the fruit of so many of the leaders in twi, judging the swath of destruction left in peoples lives....I have to doubt pfal/vpw`s understanding of spirituality of the sGodly Christian walk. Judging by the many accounts of unwarranted viscious cruelty that was exhibited ...I have to seriously wonder if they were EVER of the spirit...or simply wannabe`s
  11. That fruit of the spirit or the flesh isn`t something you strive to achieve or to hide...it is simply IS .... an example of what is inside of us....good or bad. I surmise that is why God made the effort to point out these sign posts to guide us, so that we wouldn`t be decieved by any idiot that manages to ponitficate scriptures... Again, in my opinion....a symptom of why pfal is dangerous....yeah sure....scriptures say THIS...but that can`t REALLY be what it means. I trust the scriptures far more than anybody`s excuses as to why we ought to ignore them.
  12. Don`t know if you are being deliberatly obtuse or just like to argue oldies ...I only know what the scriptures clearly say about vpw`s actions/fruit of the flesh .... and where they will land him eventually...and further more why the scriptures tell us not to trust someone who does these things. I think part of the reason vpw`s dogma/pfal is so subtly dangerous is that he was able to successfully convince folks as to WHY it was ok so many times to make excuses to ignore obviously clear biblical instructions...when we`d rather not comply.
  13. Oh Loafing, I have NO doubt that his folks are ex wafers...probably very nice people at that..... What I take issue with is that if they ever had any actual dealings with Chris Geer or VPW in person. These people, as genuine as their motives undoubtedly are....are ignorant of what they continue to promote....and now a new genereation is being infected. It is irresponsible to promote teachings/dogma when there is some doubt as to the spiritual healthiness of the individuals that presented it in the first place. I`d like to see ck wake up and do his own investigating, rather than mindlessly swallow the pablum that he has been spoon fed all of his life.
  14. You mischaracterize what I say oldies and you know it. It makes all the difference in the world according to scriptures as to what is the true nature of a person inside. That is why we were given sign posts silly...because it is too easy to fake being a Christian with pretty words and pontificaying scriptures. Go ahead, ignore God`s advice oldies, I don`t care. God told us how to identify one another and what is in store for people who manifest the behavior of vpw and his leaders.
  15. You right, my apologies Mr. Strange. I am editting now :(
  16. CK, you must see how foolish it is to decide that your impressions of two men whom you have NEVER met ... to imagine that your 2nd/3rd hand opinions actually hold more credibility than so many many of the first hand eye witness accounts of people here. Tell me.....God`s honest truth.....Did your parents ever ACTUALLY have any personal dealings with these people? Or are they like you basing their opinions on the public persona that twi presented to the world? It boils down to one of two things... Either your parents are completely ignorant....decieved regarding the truth in this situation, or they are complicit in the evil practiced by these two individuals... Being ignorant is understandible, we all were at one time ....remaining so in the face of so much information and evidence is shamefull... Keep this in mind CK, you personally are defending evil...you personally are promoting a man`s doctrines, one who practiced great evil...another who still is very evil...even if it is with the best of intentions....you personally CKMKEON, are guilty of participating in the support of folks who destroyed not just one...but many vulnerable young lives....some when even younger than yourself. In all honesty, the HONORABLE, the CHRISTIAN , the spiritually RESPONSIBLE thing to do, would be to make good and damned sure that THIS which you are promoting is Godly and will benefit people rather than enslave and harm....otherwise, you are just bringing in yet more victims for the consumption of evil :(
  17. I didn`t read where Saul raped and murdered after his conversion. There is a definate lack of understanding of the spiritual walk in twi leaders/vpw dogma adherents ...as is evidenced by the fruit consistantly manifested. God has told Christians how to recognise one another.... You can make all of the excuses you like as to why you think that we ought to ignore those instructions....that doesn`t make it a good idea.
  18. Alright ... well said Groucho! Lol Oak...We are only allowed ONE gripe? How to chose among so many...sigh Great points Temple Lady...
  19. BUSTED! Lol Kathy I was indeed :) We were experimenting with the computer/telephone/ microphone ... downloading etc. Shellon and Paw were helping coach me through the set up in chat....then I forgot to log out. The story was strictly impromptu....I thought that I was going to tell a different story.... Oh well....I think that this one turned out to be even better :) Thanks for the warm reception cool and belle, I was a just little nervous (ok scared to death) Thanks Paw and shell, I had a ball :)
  20. So according to Allan....*many unbelievers that are wonderfull people* will simply be dead, while heaven is filled with any a$$hole that slaps the lable *Christian* on themselves by the recitation of a few bible verses, no matter how viscious cruel and destructive they were to fellow believers in this life? I dunno, I think that there has got to be a little more to the formula than that <_<
  21. oops now that I do the math..it will have been SIX years ago in april....
  22. Bless you Belle, thank you! This is my little one at her first karate tournament...fearless looking isn`t she? I suppose that this should have been in the photo section.....sorry guys... I just wanted to share this *big girl* picture with all of you folks who labored with me in chat that day :)
  23. Sorry wrong pic...am working on this
  24. I LOVE knowing who is in chat....I can see ahead of time if there is someone that I want to talk to. That is the best feature that paw has ever given us.
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