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I just wanted to make sure I stated this again - I wasn't defending that horrible monstrosity of a class hehe. I also wasn't defending their use of porn. If they had shown those images to me at that young of an age maybe I would be more offended. I know my parents wouldn't have allowed me to go if there were. I guess I was just reacting to the people should be locked up thing. I wasn't mad - it just sort of freaked me out to think my parents should be locked away. When I posted I didn't know other minors had actually seen the video version - PTT just said how she felt and I realized where I might have been wrong - now that would be wrong. - I do know what those gals went through - which is why I couldn't bring myself to marry anyone from twi. There might have been a ray of hope (haha no) if the guy was decent and not completely freaking crazy. However, I did see that most of the guys really misused this and you could tell that under the surface their wives were utterly miserable. I did date one guy in twi once - when I was very young. I was lucky - he was sweet as pie and like me - really wasn't into too much of the weird twi junk. I liked him for his personality - not his super twi powers. His parents were thrown out and I never saw him again. The last I heard he is no longer in himself. After that though - I never found anyone quite like him in twi. So I just dated people outside. And I did see how people dated in twi as I got older. It was disgusting to me then. They would demand their girlfriends do things like they owned them. Their girlfriends would go to their house and clean their room and do their laundry out of some weird duty. When they talked to me - they sounded like dolls that were doing their master's bidding - not like loving girlfriends. The one time that bothered me the most - was when I met a girl that was older than me. She had a boyfriend in twi - she told me that breaking up was fine and dandy when you are dating someone outside of twi - but when you are dating someone in twi it's different. You can't let silly things get in the way. O_o This was her response to him being a complete bastard to her for no reason for the majority of their relationship - I couldn't believe it. I knew I was way too free spirited to let someone become my dictator - so I dated and married my husband. <3 Thank... goodness... BUT If I had been stupid enough to marry someone in twi though - I'd like to think that he would have been more like me. I know I wouldn't have put up with any of that "I own you" crud.

PTT - wow - didn't know it got to some people like that. I think it didn't bother me much because it seemed like such a far away thing? Maybe if I had been older it would have screwed me up a bit more. Then again - I think I blocked most of it because I was doodling. XP I think the only thing I can remember is laughing at the weird words... or in CMs class I listened a bit - and doodled. Sometimes I wish I could see these things again - just to see how I would react to them now. Maybe I would be disgusted. Well, actually I know I would be. Although I still don't think anyone should be locked up for putting the class out.

XP = is a different form of this: =P It's like squinting your eyes and sticking your tongue out. Sort of liking giggling. :3 = kitty face. :3 purrrrr!

Um - remember I didn't see any porno when I went. We listened to it over a speaker system - not film. They didn't let minors go in there except me (I was the youngest one). The people coordinating the class had to get my parents to sign a release if I remember correctly. Sort of like when you are in school and they have to get a release for you to watch a film with a higher rating than permited? I was home schooled for some of my life - so I guess my parents thought maybe this would be the closest thing to a sex education class that I could get at the time. I'm not defending how stupid their class was - or how utterly shovanistic it was - or that it gave me anything in the way of a decent sex education. But jeeze - I think that 13 year olds need to be told sex... if not sooner. It was just from a bad source. I guess I am a little aggrivated because that would mean my parents needed to be jailed for letting me listen? I guess my generation is a little more open about sex? I have friends outside twi who think nothing of watching stuff like that together. Although I have never done this myself - I don't really think anything of it either. But then again - they don't have some weird old predator (who is supposed to be a priest) in the room with them saying weird crap either. Creeeepy. I am sorry for you guys that had to watch the pron with that weird old freak. *won't say much on the subject - but I remember being 13 and filled with hormons. I drew a few things before I went to this class. I still do hehe.* XP I guess I am a pervert.

I remember taking this - several times. I think I heard VPs over a speaker - so I didn't get the lovely pictures. They weren't really sure how I was going to react. I think I was 13 the first time I heard it? Of course I was pretty sheltered - so when he read off the slang terms for sex organs I sorta couldn't help but laugh... very hard. I almost fell out of my chair. I can only remember the laughing really. XP I think CM did one as well if I remember correctly - a video? I don't remember seeing porn on this one but I remember him talking about CF&S or whatever. It wasn't as funny but I wasn't too offended - I might change my mind if I saw it today though. After he was outed - we had one in our area. No porn again. XP This time people who were married talked. They actually had some good things to say I think. It was more neutral this time. One husband addressed the men and said - if your wife is always nagging you and upset - maybe you should check yourself out. What are you doing? Happiness went both ways. They talked to the ladies too - but it wasn't "get down on your knees" and praise God you have such a wonderful man. We actually didn't talk about sex - other than we shouldn't do stuff togther until we are married. We should be married to believers... etc... It was pretty much still the husband dominates the relationship - but he needs to listen to his wife. But what he says goes. They also said if women weren't ready to submit to their husbands then they shouldn't get married. That was the first time I realized I didn't want to get married to another person in TWI - who would want to put up with that? I can tell him what I think - but I have to do what he wants no matter what? That sucks.

Ah, now I remember - now that you showed it to me of course! XP I can't believe I forgot that. That is a neat way of thinking of it - to keep things in order while in a group... but if there is just one person - what if there is no group to speak to? Some people would never get to enjoy that then? Thanks for showing me that Roy. =)

I found it and posted the link. I forgot that it was a click-a-day thing for .6 cups of food. It's been a while since I've seen it since I don't visit the old cat forum anymore. It would be neat if they had something like this though - half a piece of dog food for every correct word? How neat!

The Animal Rescue Site: http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Everytime you click you give .6 bowls of food to rescued animals. It's not as fun as the rice give-away for people... but... you know... Click today and everyday! :3 P.S. Look along the top - there are also links for hunger, breast caner, child healthcare, literacy and rainforest conservation. Please click those too if you like. P.S.S. This site gets pretty heavy traffic - you might need to click the refresh button a couple of times.

I remember someone saying speaking in tongues or quoting scripture over and over was like a mantra of sorts (can't remember who) but it helps clear your head because you can't think of something while you are doing it. Was that the peaceful feeling I used to get? I keep trying to figure out if I want to keep SIT or toss it. I still wonder about it. If the feeling I'm trying to bring up is peacefulnes - maybe I should try another religion's chants? At least then it would be in a real language and not something I'm just doing? Very true. I guess I felt like I needed to practice because it didn't feel natual at all. Speaking in tongues seemed more natural - because it required no thought. Like speaking jibberish. Is it jibberish? I'm trying to figure that out too. Me too. It seemed like the interpretation required some thought... because it's not like I could just start talking in a language I understood and claim to be God without feeling like it was forced. It always felt weird when I did it... like a feeling of anxiety would roll over me. It was never a blessing to me really. So confuzzled.

First - sorry if I don't make much sense right now. My blood sugar is so low I think I'm about to faint! But I wanted to reply before I went to lunch. Thanks for the replies! :3 Yes, sometimes I do find myself going: Oh crap! What did I do again? And hoping that I didn't do something incredibly wrong. But I am slowly coming wading through this stuff and this place has been a great help. I can't remember where we were taught to translate when we were speaking in tongues. Even though I was a part of TWI most of my life - it seems after I left there was this giant shut-off valve and I forgot some of the scriptures (if there ever were any to begin with) that backed this stuff up. Anyone have an answer? Interpreting and all that seems more natural if I put it from my perspective... sort of like: "God loves you, blah blah blah!" not "I the Lord thy God loves you! Blah blah!" Although I guess it's not bad to do it both ways? Roy, I remember Preacher getting ....ed off at you for speaking in tongues and interpreting by yourself. I think I saw a thread where you mentioned doing just that. I could be wrong! Even if you did - I don't think you were wrong for doing it. But I was wondering if there is anything in the bible against it? I remember people in TWI reacting the same way Preacher did if I mentioned doing it by myself. I couldn't remember if that was just something VP or CM said. I do know that it made practicing very difficult. And when I couldn't say anything different because I didn't have practice people would get upset at me some more hehe.

How cool! I got over 1,000 grains. I don't want to mess with it too much at work - but it's fun. =) I think there is something similar for dogs and cats - only it's with bits of dog/cat food instead. I wish I could remember the link.

If the people in your "church" believe that you can be healed with only prayers and doctors don't know wtf they are talking about... ...you might be in a cult If your "priest" *cough* tells his followers that medical doctors don't heal people and don't know what they are talking about... (I actually listened to this the other day on a tape) ...you might be in a cult (Sorry if someone did this one before) If your priest has made the claim that people are dying all over the world (literally) just to hear the word of God like he is teaching it... ...you might be in a cult

I liked this - really... but I think instead of ending it with "you might be in a cult" it should be "you might be an arsehole" XP

How fun! =) I image they would be a little tired hehe after all that crazy stuff - but it's a shame they weren't too talkative.

I dunno why... but I just loved this post! The second to last paragraph about Craig gave me such a funny mental image that I started laughing at work. XP

Even if it was never documented - I would have a hard time believing that Mary remained a virgin after Jesus' birth. I doubt God would be like: So hey... Joseph! Umm... stay married to this chick... but like... never have sex with her or have kids to take care of you in your old age... m'kay? I just don't think so - I thought back in those old days that they valued having lots of kids right?

I had to throw out all the whole baby covered in spaghetti... (that sounds sooo gross btw) God and all. Right now I'm taking time off from all of it to heal. I will get around to bringing some sort of belief system back. If I don't - if God exists and loves us all he should understand right? I have been examining the spaghetti strands in the meantime. I'm finding myself not liking many of them... I've been tossing them out into the garbage. It's nice to go back and look at what I believed once upon a time and see it from a different perspective. Maybe I will get into Buddhism? Is that like a fat guy covered in fettucini alfredo? Don't throw out Buddha with the fettucini alfredo! ... No? Well I tried.

Oh man bowtwi.. the stuff they taught us. Sort of makes you cringe eh?

Man I can't wait until he gets out of the hospital and into a nursing home. I'm not sure how it could get worse than here. He's got a few people who are good. But I found out the other day when my dad was taken into hospice - that when we thought he was going to die (no feeding tube)... His stupid doctor said to the nurse: Why are you giving him morphene? It's not like he can feel anything anyway. They were barely giving him enough for a small child. >_> Grrr... It's like he was some sort of dead fish. Who cares? Just chop his head off. I wouldn't be totally against letting dad go if he doesn't improve in a few months because I know he didn't want to be in a bed his whole life - but dear God - shouldn't these doctors be treating their patients like they would want to be treated if they were aware but couldn't move? If I do a living will (which I will when I move) I'm going to put in that I better be given enough morphine to knock a grown man on his arse. Well... maybe not that much... but still. Dying of hunger and thirst sounds like painful business - I would definitely want some sort of comfort drug. Anyways, enough of the whole death thing. I'm hoping to take a day or two for myself so I can sleep. I think I'm starting to get sick. T_T

Omg! We had to do this too! My mom was also told to remove the horns off of my my little pony unicorns because magical things were evil. Oh! If you were ever told by one of your friends that wearing a cross is like wearing a dog whistle for devil spirits... ...you might be in a cult

I hope I am in the right forum section for this. I also hope no one else brought this up – I tried to do a search and it kept giving me the pink screen. Anyways… When I was still in TWI we used to do that thing called speaking in tongues and interpretation. That was what they called training wheels before we were really good and just did prophesy. I didn’t think about this before – but when we did that… we were speaking for God. Hell, we pretended to be God while we talked didn’t we? Is that blaspheming? Not the speaking in tongues, but the intererpretation and prophesy part? I never even thought of it until today. Anyone else have any thoughts on the mater?

If you refer to Christmas as "Ho-Ho" because your religious leaders will jump on you because Jesus wasn't born on Christmas... ...you might be in a cult

Hm, my dad looked like he was trying to whisper yesterday. He would get very quite and he would move his mouth... but only air was coming out. His eyes were open. Mom asked him if he wanted to watch some sort of dancing program and he made a negative noise. She turned it onto a detective story and he started watching. The other day I was upset - one of the nurses came - and I talked to her for a while. She told me he was a vegetable because it's been so long since he's been up up. I sort of didn't know what to say - but I agreed that maybe dad wasn't in there anymore right in front of him because he wouldn't even open his eyes really. I felt bad for doing that. Mom said yesterday he seemed a little less responsive the day I was there - like he was depressed. It only made me feel worse - she didn't know I said what I did. I asked him if he was mad at me. I told him I was sorry. If he is in there - I don't want him thinking I think he's a thing or something. I feel like crap - my emotions are just up and down now a'days. >_<

If you've ever wrote a term paper for Art History and you tried your hardest not to use the word "creative" because you were told only God can "create" ...you might be in a cult

Update: I spent the Thanksgiving weekend waiting for the same "I think he is getting better!" feeling go through me. =( After the initial shock of his eyes being opened for so long wore off... I realized that it might not be as great as I once thought. He still opens his eyes a little - but I'm realizing now that he won't look at us unless we put our hands on him... he also doesn't keep his eyes on us very long. I tried to get him to blink for me. I said: hey dad, will you blink for me if you remember me? Like this: *blink* He didn't. He doesn't open his mouth for us... so maybe that was random too. While his face is fuller still... all of the experessions I thought weren't random... are. He looks mad... happy... etc when no one is talking... when nothing is happening or at odd moments where it isn't appropriate. When he is "sleeping" I cannot wake him up. I'll shake him and call his name but he won't wake up and look at me. I dunno. =/ It's so up and down.