DrWearWord

Everyone's posts are surely welcome here. No one has derailed the topic any more than I have. Today I have been thinking of the "falling away" or departure. Euclidian geometry (so I was told), defines this falling away as a line drawn from within a circle through the circumference to a location outside the circle (zero). Just thought I would toss that in for consideration.

Is zero sometimes, "off land"? Can zero both feed and give? Ambiguity in Zero. Is not a whore, two faced? Matthew 12:25 KJV And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation [zero] ; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand : Luke 12:51 KJV Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

Wow... brother. Praise and thanks. 1 Corinthians 13:12 KJV For now we see through a glass, darkly ; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known .

Even life is a dichotomy, X and Y chromosomes.

Tupos has gotten me thinking about the X and Y chromosomes. Is one a copy of the other, as in Adam's rib? Well actually the Y chromosome is a partial mutation of the X chromosome. So the X chromosome would be the tupos because it contains both X and Y, and the Y chromosome would be the anti-tupos. The Y chromosome that makes men unique compared to women is only a partial and incomplete image of X. So Y was likely taken from the rib of X. Did "God" create the female first? If God created the female first then God gave that which she is. Over time the X chromosome mutated into Y and changed the human form. Even in the womb we all start out as females and hormonal changes alter the zygote into a male. So is that not even further indication that, God created "man" in his own image a bit contradictory to present day science? I am not saying that God is male or female… I am just pointing out that the Bible has made some firm statements that science is not confirming. After years of persecuting people for sexual identity, we find that the earth is not flat, and the earth is not the center of the universe if it revolves around the sun. That sexual taboos are a natural part of life and that, all women are created equal (then some become men). Peace with God :)

I guess we will all just have to run our mouths until that day. :) The scriptures tell us to reverently respect God, but not to fear God. God knoweth the hour and in a moment of time the hour will pass over to the new age. This is not a thing to fear but a thing that all people can rejoice in. Ambiguity is not sin or God would not walk in ambiguity him/her self. :)

The invisible Omni God is Zero as Elohim, and One as Jehovah. In the beginning Zero created One, and one comprised of two, heaven/earth, male/female… ambiguity. Elohim is the third word in the Hebrew text of the Bible. Ephesians 3:18 KJV May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; Comment: So we place our foundation upon an invisible God, upon a point the has neither depth nor height, nor form... Sounds like zero to me. Ephesians 2:21 KJV In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: Comment: Zero is the point within the temple where the entire master plans were drawn upon. Zero is the spirit within the temple, zero is the vector origin where all other lines of dimension are drawn from. "Staked to Zero." :)

Wow. Zero is the Holy Spirit. Only The Holy Spirit can create. So Zero always can be considered also as one because of Zero's unique inherent potential to create one. One is the image of Zero. Colossians 1:15 KJV Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Comment: Zero creates time. 0 = 1-1 (living sacrifice) Then we are one with Zero (eternity), Zero is both finite and infinite. Zero is infinite because Zero can always create time. Zero is finite because Zero is the beginning and the end.

Heaven is the big carwash in the sky. It is a place where our memories of this reality fade and are replaced with a new reality much more splendid and majestic than this world. Heaven is the return back to God/Zero. Heaven is going home to where all life started from. Heaven is completing the circle of life, rebirth, and all that we gather in this life that is sacred will stand in heaven and all that the ambiguously generous and merciful God of creation feels is unworthy will be left behind.

Luke 12:51 KJV Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: Comment: It this the Prince of Peace? John 9:39 KJV And Jesus said , For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see ; and that they which see might be made blind. Comment: Jesus Christ healed the blind? Was Jesus' first miracle to make people go blind? Did Christ Jesus not blind Saul in the desert? Were Jesus' first miracles to hide the sacred feminine in the holy spirit and place homosexuality in monastic limbo?

TWI led many into not seeing the duality of the word. It was the word and nothing but the word. But the word must be seen in light of fundamental truths. Like the earth is round… Like darkness has light in it too. Like devil spirits don't cause disease, genetic and biological pathogens are the source of disease. All the Christian prayers and picturing someone healthy is really going to change an infection or Diabetes. It is the doctors and surgeon that really do the “miracles“. Now which is it folks, first or second aid? Ambiguity.

I agree with much of what you say here. One may consider what life the Bible has stolen from people by its misuse and abuse. One need only to look back at the inquisitions of the orthodoxy to know that the same spirit that blesses, curses also. We are saved by the spirit but condemned by our deeds. Again it is like being inside the tent and outside the tent at the same time. The Bible has been used to condemn, denigrate, force into submission, to divide and separate, people are martyred and dressed in posh finery all in the name of the same God. Such contradiction of perception. So do we blame God for what people do with the Bible? Well, if it is done in God’s name, according to God's word, it is written, then who else do we blame? God couldn’t just write the Bible plain for plain folk. No he had to include all this mystery, legal/faith ambiguity, endless genealogies for a sexless God. So we are to study and rightly divide ambiguity? Like, God is our father, and Jesus Christ is "the son of God", but there is no sex in heaven… …and the poor holy spirit has no mind of its/her own… God does not give me more spirit than someone else, but he showed them more, and God is no respecter of persons.

I humbly differ in opinion. :) The earth became without form also... And before man/women were formed they were also formless. Zero is the seed of all numbers as God is the seed of all that is. Zero does not just begin outside/before the numbers but it is within the numbers also. 10, 20, 30, 40... 100, 1000, 10,000. All values exist in zero. If God is not a man how can God be a father? And why don't we have a mother? That is certainly a dichotomy. "In the beginning" denotes time and with time, the beginning starts at zero. Even the round clock face is a zero? The zodiac in the heavens which declare God are also a circle or oval. All of the imagery of the zodiac all contained within zero. The earth is a sphere. Zero is the seed of understanding as it is the seed of the spirit. The name of God was not to be uttered. So if God talks to us why doesn’t God tell us his/her name? So on that logic than if God is one (1), is that not still assigning a value and form to God? Christ Jesus unites all values in zero. The new birth is zero born within. Zero is the only value able to create. Zero has a still and small voice. Zero is a seed and zero begins physical time and spiritual time. God was in the beginning with/as zero. Zoroastrianism is the seed of monotheism. And the list comparatively goes on. I dreamed once about eternal life and found something missing, zero. For life needs to become new again or living could become a curse. So I guess it is trusting in zero that zero can provide the newness of life so that eternity is never dull and tediously long. The zero also explains the trinity. For how could Jesus not rob God of his glory by being equal unless he was equal with zero. Only zero can make the trinity work logically. You cannot rob what is not there. Being equal to zero is oneness with zero. Isaiah 40:22 KJV It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth,

Most black magic, devil worship, vampirism, goth... takes or steals life rather than contributing to life in general. That is why even if their God/deity/demon was "real" I would find a problem with the lack of profit of such a backward system of beliefs. Alistair Crowley made a mess of his life and those around him. I guess we can thank Alistair for demonstrating how not to live. That is walking in darkness. The Bible has the same idea sort of, that life is granted only though sacrifice. I guess I just don't understand how life is gained though the loss of it.

Does the Bible mention clones? I had a believer once tell me that the Bible mentions clones. :)

Exodus 12:3 KJV Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying , In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house:

Guthrie/clones

It said, "You are walking in darkness."

Someone left a note on my door. :)

Faith is that, in utter darkness, we still live. Long suffering.

The Father's House There were once ten brothers who lived together in one accord. Their father and mother knew the minds of these brothers. Two brothers were very strong and could carry most of the weight of the other brothers. Though, two brothers were very bossy and pointedly, sometimes annoying. Two brothers were very tall and there were two brothers that were quite and just followed along with the others. The least of these brothers, were two, who were soft and mild compared to the others. One day the two strong brothers began to quarrel, they fought over who was respected more by the other brothers. Then the bossy opinionated brothers picked opposite sides, as they argued the finer points. The tallest brothers both spoke up and they picked opposite sides also. So now it was three against three and the two brothers that just followed along with things, couldn’t make up their minds, so the strong brothers agreed to pick one brother for each side and, it was done. The mild brothers wailed and railed upon the strong brothers, that they would divide the house of their father with such disregard. But the mild brothers did not want to upset the balance by not choosing an opposite side… So the family of brothers became opposed and divided by the two brothers who at first contrived to set their family at naught. So there the brothers sat facing each other and idly staring at one another. One side against another they plotted. Then the meekest of the brothers spoke up and said, “Why don’t we all just shake hands?” The father’s house is two hands. DrWearWord

God is zero.

It is an interesting note in the logic, that Abel's bloodline was also severed, Even if Abel had unrecorded offspring prior to his death they still would have been destroyed in the flood. It is interesting to reason that Abel's priestly order was "raised from the dead"... and re-instituted after his death, probably by Seth. Thus neither order Cain/Abel had a literal bloodline after the flood. Also, through Seth, two orders would be reborn into one. One must then question why did God create two orders to oppose each other in the first place? The heavens/and the earth, energy/matter, male/female, Adam/Eve, Cain/Abel, flesh/blood, bread/wine, liberty/law... Then the fathers/mothers of these orders become cursed and die and the surviving offspring, Seth (of neither Cain or Abel's bloodline), leads to eventually uniting both orders in a neutered body, soul and spirit, through Christ Jesus. It seems if there is not rebirth involved God is not present, back to zero (zygote). Zero creates one comprised of two, as intelligence creates learning; out of learning, wisdom and spirituality are fused and reborn... Romans 10:9 KJV That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Comment: To confess is to "say the same thing". To take two orders, mouth/heart and merge them into one though the lord Jesus Christ/Christ Jesus. The order of mouth/words/laws/knowledge/flesh and blood, and the order of the heart/faith/spirit/wine and bread. The story leads me back to Cain and Abel... Two brothers, one who kills the other in a conflict of ego... ...In the story of the prodigal son, God seems to prefer the wayward son (order of faith), once dead to him, over the obedient son (order of law). Ephesians 2:8 KJV For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Ok, you have convincing evidence that Cainan was named after Cain but how does being Noe's son make him of the bloodline of Cain? Until that quite simple question is answered, I must still conclude that if all life was destroyed in the flood except for Noe and his family... then the bloodline of Cain was severed. So the only way Cain could have existed after the flood was if some were to pick up and revive his priestly order. So in other words, the surviving Cain passed over the flood as “a spirit.” i.e. Melchisedec. Cain figuratively "walked on water" to survive after the flood through his priestly order. Sons of Cain/bread and wine Sons of man/flesh and blood.