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Awww, mannnnn!!!! I sure wish I'd have known. I get their e-mail newsletter, but hadn't read the last couple, evidently - I'd have LOVED to bring the princess out for that. Guess I should've made myself known sooner. My phone #'s still the same (hint, hint). In case something like that comes up in this area again...

Yeah, dooj, me too. (((((Ron G.)))))

Time and place haven't been set yet, but the discussion has only been started.

There's also been talk of it being near ArkieRon's place, so if folks have a preference on location, it behooves us to start planning so we can get reservations!

Rumblings of another annual Great Southern Comfort and Weenie Roast are being noised about the Cafe. Let's start planning so whoever wants to attend, can. How about that same place we met last year in KY? Those were really nice cabins and seemed like a good place to go back to again. There were few enough of us there last year it'd be like a whole new experience, kinda sorta, hey! Or what about that place the Sudo family noticed on the way home from last year's Roast? My family's up for either any weekend in August or September. Rascal? Hawk? Sudo? Suda? Anyone else? I hear Paw's bringing the bacon.

RainbowsGirl - Can you say "Weenie Roast 6"? I knew you could.

Yeah, GT, that's what I was thinking - database last updated 2005 - yowza!!! That's some mighty fine stewardship NOT!!! <_<

So good to see you again, Shifra! Welcome back! Awesome discussion!

My my, Jeaniam - are you aware that this is a DISCUSSION board? This isn't everybody says what they think and Jeaniam comes in and tells us what's a valid point - who are YOU that you think you should come in here like this? That's very rude, not to mention insulting and annoying. Stop it! Jean - your opinion is ONLY THAT - YOUR OPINION. Your opinion is as valuable as mine, Hamm's, rascal's, all of ours - NO MORE and NO LESS. I was hoping to get into this discussion, but as in other threads I've noticed, when you're involved it turns into personal insults and fantasies of your superiority over whomever you're trying to correct. I've been discussing controversial subjects with my good friend rascal and others for years on this board and never do we tell each other "You're wrong" or "Hamm's point isn't valid." We can disagree without insulting each other. You might want to try it. It's most satisfying and really a pleasant way to learn things we don't already know. And hey Jean, one last thing - God really does like all of us as much as he does you. Whitedove - Thanks for your great example of how to disagree without insulting the writer and give the reader thoughts to ponder, rather than the sting of those insults another poster is zinging out...

Just for fun, let’s do a little math. Let’s say I buy a license to run this class. Let’s say I average 10 students per class. Let’s say I charge them $100 to sit through the class. 10 x $100=$1000 total collected for class "tuition". 10% of that $1000 is $100. 15% of that 10% would be $15. Let’s say I’m a great witness and I run a class of 10 every month. That’s $15 each month. May not be much to you, Jeanyouare, but that’s my milk budget and to me that’s significant. I don’t know that I know a better way off the top of my head, but this smells like a scam to me. It doesn’t sound at all Christlike to me.

Thanks, David - that's perfect!

THINGS I LEARNED FROM MY MOTHER Do you remember any of these?? 1.My mother taught me TO APPRECIATE A JOB WELL DONE: "If you're going to kill each other, do it outside. I just finished cleaning!" 2. My mother taught me RELIGION. "You had better pray that comes out of the carpet!" 3. My mother taught me about TIME TRAVEL. "If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" 4. My mother taught me LOGIC. "Because I said so, that's why." 5. My mother taught me MORE LOGIC. If you fall out of that swing and break your neck, you're not going to the store with me." 6. My mother taught me FORESIGHT. "Make sure you wear clean underwear, in case you're in an accident. 7. My mother taught me IRONY. "Keep crying, and I'll give you something to cry about."

I just read this and my first thought was, "Her fans are asking the governor to pardon her? WTF?" My second thought was, "She's got fans?" and again, "WTF?"

What great Friday morning tunes! Thank you, mstar!

Restaurants depending on the service, 10-20%. At holiday time I tip better at our favorite Mexican restaurant. One time I was so impressed when I had ordered chicken in my quesadilla, the waitress came back and said the cook wanted her to doublecheck that I wanted chicken, as he knew I always ordered the same thing, beef. He was right - I had mistakenly ordered chicken. I'd have enjoyed the chicken, but I was impressed he remembered my "usual" better than I did. Hairdressers I give $5. We never have anything other than a trim. I'm glad to know about tipping more for bigger jobs. What about if the hairdresser is the owner of the shop? Is it considered rude to tip the owner?

This is really politically incorrect..especially with the Imus situation, but... There will only be 49 contestants in the Miss Black America Contest this year because no one wants to wear the banner that says, IDAHO.

My 2004 Ford Taurus SES has been a real sweet car. No problems whatsoever. I get 24-29 mpg on the highway. It's very comfortable for traveling long distances. I've got 63,000 miles on it. I've been fantasizing about trading it in for a Saturn VUE and will probably do that this year. I've been paying close attention to the VUE and will probably get an '04 or newer. Every time I get close to trading it in, I remember it's paid for and it really does all I need it to do.

He was stripped of his reverend status? That's not for life? Didn't they teach ordination was for every believer, just for those called of God... What, did He change His mind? Oh, too confusing.

Dot - Please send Janice my condolences. That's so sad. But you must know the damage had already been done before she called you. Besides, you gave her the best info you had available. Anyone who knows you knows your heart and of course you feel bad. But please don't feel guilt. That's not yours. I feel terrible for Janice.

I'm My Own Grandpa Lyrics: Dwight Latham, Moe Jaffe Music: Dwight Latham, Moe Jaffe Played by Jerry Garcia with David Grisman Oh, many, many years ago When I was twenty-three I was married to a widow Who was pretty as can be This widow had a grown-up daughter Who had hair of red My father fell in love with her And soon the two were wed This made my dad my son-in-law And changed my very life For my daughter was my mother 'Cause she was my father's wife To complicate the matter Though it really brought me joy I soon became the father Of a bouncing baby boy This little baby then became A brother-in-law to Dad And so became my uncle Though it made me very sad For if he was my uncle Then that also made him brother Of the widow's grown-up daughter WHo of course is my step-mother Chorus I'm my own grandpa I'm my own grandpa It sounds funny I know But it really is so Oh, I'm my own grandpa My father's wife then had a son Who kept them on the run And he became my grandchild For he was my daughter's son My wife is now my mother's mother And it makes me blue Because although she is my wife She's my grandmother too Now if my wife is my grandmother Then I'm her grandchild And every time I think of it It nearly drives me wild For now I have become The strangest case you ever saw As husband of my grandma I am my own grandpa

O asked, "I am only saying that just maybe if a person has the courage to make the first few timid steps toward owning up to his wrongdoing, why shouldn't we be more encouraging for him to make the next step? I am aware that it's much easier to shame than to journey beside such a person." Because if this guy has even a tiny relapse, it could be MY daughter next and I just won't take that chance. I've survived way more of his type offense than I care to tell about and I live to prevent my children from having to become survivors of it too. My son is 26 - he's never had any sex of any kind with any one that he didn't want to. My daughter is 10. That's why I'm not encouraging for him at all in any way. Edited to add that I had only read as far as O's post when I posted this - I hadn't read abi's response. I might not have posted if I had read it - it covers what I'm saying as well. And that I have a brother that may have molested 2 of my nieces 18 years ago. Our childhood was rampant with molestation because we were unsupervised children. I'd love to believe that anothen and my brother could control those urges, but we know the stats show otherwise and I won't risk a child's innocence when I can help prevent it.

As the mother of a 10-year-old girl and someone who was a 9-year-old victim of someone who "ONLY fondled me", I'm interested in hearing about this "line you crossed" that's "considered" and how you think it's even yours to talk about - how well she is or isn't doing since you violated her innocence and changed her life forever. What was it that you were doing that was fine and dandy and then what happened, did you get carried away with passion for your love, this 9-year-old innocent? Did you take an innocent child's hug and turn it into something life-changing? Or did you set out to forever change this little one and her family's lives in ways unspeakable? When that man fondled me it was in the guise of straightening out my jacket. He may have thought he only fondled me, but he confused me in ways I won't go into here. I did nothing wrong, but at age 9, I had to decided whether to risk telling on somebody's grandpa and decided I wouldn't be believed over him, so I never told. You think you feel guilt when you read other molestation victim's accounts? Well, thanks to someone like you, I relive those feelings of guilt that someone like you thrust onto my innocent little mind. It took me years and years to get over it. You need to stop presuming you know anything at all about that girl you violated. You need to only pray for her, you don't get to feel like she "only" anything. I read you to say that at some point your behavior became unacceptable by someone else's standard. I don't see you saying what you did was wrong in your estimation. Until you believe that with your whole heart, you're just on the prowl looking for your next victim. From what you've said so far I believe you still think there is something sexy about a 9-year-old. Let me clear that up for you. There is nothing sexy about children. Whatever that other thing you spoke of - children behaving aggressively sexually - just stop with that. I'm not going to dignify that by explaining anything. NO matter how inappropriate a CHILD'S behavior may be, it's the ADULT'S responsibility and privilege to be a good example to that child and respect that child's safety. NO MATTER WHAT.

Anot said "My victim was nine years old and I only fondled her. But that was enough to be what is considered, crossing the line. The last I heard, she only suffered a little embarrassment and recovered quite nicely."

Congratulations, Andrew!

Easy Swiss Steak 1 to 1-1/2 pounds round steak 1/4 teaspoon salt 1/4 teaspoon garlic powder 1/4 teaspoon pepper 1 4-ounce can mushrooms, drained (or use fresh sliced) 1 10 3/4-ounce can cream of mushroom soup, undiluted Trim visible fat from round steak and cut into 4 to 6 serving-size pieces. Pound to flatten and tenderize. Season with garlic salt and pepper. Place meat in bottom of slow cooker. Spoon drained mushrooms on top of steak, then spread mushroom soup over. Cook on low for 7 to 9 hours. Serve with rice or mashed potatoes and a salad or green vegetable. Serves 4 to 6. (I don't eat mushrooms, so I use cream of chicken or cream of celery soup and omit the mushrooms.) Fix a lettuce salad ahead of time or make: Broccoli Cauliflower Salad Here's a recipe for a great do-ahead salad. The original recipe called for just broccoli, but I like it with broccoli and cauliflower. Also, the original recipe used five strips of bacon, fried crisp and crumbled. But, it seems that no matter how crisp I fry bacon, it always tends to get soft once it is combined with the dressing. I use about two tablespoons of "real" bacon bits or pieces you can find in a jar; don't use the soy version like Bacos. Broccoli Cauliflower Salad 1/4 to 1/2 cup sugar 2 tablespoons vinegar 1 cup mayonnaise (you can use low fat, if desired) 1 bunch fresh broccoli, finely chopped 1/2 head fresh cauliflower, finely chopped 1 cup shredded Cheddar cheese 1 small red onion, chopped 2 tablespoons "real" bacon bits In a large bowl, combine sugar and vinegar and stir until sugar dissolves. Mix in mayonnaise, stirring until well combined. Add in remaining ingredients, gently stirring until everything is well coated with the dressing. Chill several hours or overnight before serving. If you make a pan of brownies the day before, you can travel with them right in the baking pan if you'd like. A nice touch might be to bring a can of those crescent rolls and pop them in the oven 15 minutes before you want to eat - we've been enjoying them a lot lately.