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I've always loved that line - "The butter wouldn't melt, so I put it in the pie!" I always heard that his herb was top shelf

Uncle Albert - Paul McCartney

Gotta love him, indeed! That's a great stowry! I recently locked myself out too. We had a power outtage and I thought I had changed the housekey on my ring when I changed the front door locks last, but apparently didn't. So I came home and couldn't get in the garage (since my garage door opener runs on electricity), my usual way to enter the house. I have a locked 6 ft. privacy fence too and the key was on its hook in the kitchen (INSIDE THE LOCKED HOUSE). When I realized I was really locked out, I broke the aluminum frame around a living room window and using a plastic milk crate from the trunk of my car, I climbed into the front window and landed on the loveseat. Worst part was, I had actually given a spare key to a friend when I changed locks, so I really could've avoided the whole mess. Funniest part was - later wondering what the police thought if they saw me, as I live across the street from the police station.

I've subscribed for at least a couple years, since Belle turned me on to it. I haven't used it yet, but almost did when some thick blue shag carpet was offered. It was the icy part of winter and I wasn't up for the adventure it could have provided. I'm preparing for a garage sale now and I think I'll offer some of the leftovers as freecycle - LOVE the concept! I've seen good working electric stoves, matching tires, yard furniture, baby supplies by the case... Ours also includes pets - maybe they actually understand what self-governing, self-propagating means.

:blink: Hmmm, I always thought of Sex as more of a 'Yes' or 'No' question, myself.

I knew that you would, now!

I remember you well too - have continued praying for you and your family. You were very supportive of me and I felt it. I'm delighted to hear your update. I hope we see more of you around here. Much love.

It beats getting p***ed ON! Nice truck, by the way - congrats!!!

My thoughts? As usual, I think you should go back and remove a detail or two - it's really not good to put names of people still in twi in posts. It can cause her problems she's not equipped to deal with. Her parents may get hassled and told to stop this relationship before you two have a real shot at seeing if you're compatible. I also think she's second generation twi. I pray you can help her see clearly. It's very difficult to explain, but even when I was kicked out over false accusations, I wanted to go back more than I wanted anything. I wanted to clear up what appeared to me to be a terrible mistake. I had only been in twi 15 years, not my entire lifetime like your girlfriend. I think you're going to need patience and wisdom. I think you're a smart man and will do just fine. Just remember to protect her heart by not exposing her to avoidable pain. And pray a lot. I had a brother-in-law that was a minister when I first got into twi. I gave him a copy of the blue book to support my position. He wrote me an 11 pages of legal paper rebuttal. He was educated in theology and biblical research - yet I was convinced I knew more of the truth than he did. I won our debates. I hope you can continue to be a soft place for her to land, so to speak. My prayers remain with you, your girl and her family.

Tee hee hee! What a great Monday morning video! Thanks so much for posting it, Waysider! I'm youtube-challenged, myself. My 11-year-old requests a CD that has both of those videos on it whenever we travel - she especially enjoys the Mississippi Squirrel revival. It really cracks me up to hear her sing on the Streak, the words "He's just in the mood to run in the nude!" LOLOL

May I request "The Streak"?

Hoping your day is as lovely as you!

This has been so big in my life lately. I had been friends with someone that I loaned over $1000 to a few years ago. At first she paid back whatever she could each month, sometimes $25, sometimes $75, but she was faithful to give me something each month. As time went on, she made less faithful attempts. Eventually, when it got down to $600-some she still owed, she quit paying it back at all. We've since stopped being friends, obviously... Well, each time I hear about some new purchase she's made (van, fancy quilting sewing machine, saddle for her horse, etc...) each time I cringe thinking if only she'd have paid me in full, I wouldn't continue to resent her good fortune. I made the remark the other day when someone informed me of a new, better paying job this lady found, that I would rather not even hear what's gooing on in her life anymore, as "it makes me remember how she screwed me over and it makes me mad all over again". I'm working on forgiving her so I can get my power back and can stop her from affecting how I feel at any time ever! My goal is to get to a point that if I hear her name I can stop resenting her taking advantage of my kindness.

I was married when I got into the way. TWI leadership called my ex-husband an "unbelieving believer" - he once was an active Christian, but didn't study a Bible, attend any way functions or contribute money to them. He didn't forbid me to attend, but I was told I was unequally yoked and convinced to divorce him by twi. Then our son and I were kicked out. Nice. :blink:

Dixie Chicken - Little Feat This is one of those songs that sticks in my head for days. It didn't get me the first line, but that Commodore Hotel - that was when I recognized the song! Well, I went home with the waitress

That's kinda the point. I was 20 when I got involved in the way. It appeared to me to be a group of nice mannered, well-groomed people that wanted to learn about God and His Word and live accordingly. There was no pressure - at first. It was all sweetness and tenderness. It was all about how much God loves us. Someone here once described it as similar to how a frog stays in boiling water - doesn't jump out. The frog's not put in boiling water right away, as the water heats up with the frog in it, the frog gets used to the increased temperature incrementally. The Way's mind control methods work that way. For example, first they taught that if we took the PFAL class, we'd be equipped and able to study the Word, which is where the power of God is explained. You'll also be able to speak in tongues, which is perfect prayer, among other things. Don't you WANT to pray perfectly? Of course you do. Then after you take that class, the pressure is raised a little bit to you need to attend twig fellowship twice a week to reap the benefits of the Word that's made available to you that week. That the twig coordinator is teaching what THAT specific twig needs to hear that specific week. Well, who wanted to miss out on what God wanted us to know that particular week? (I hear that nowadays they all teach the same thing at all the fellowships, so the old "each twig is self-governing, self-propagating..." no longer applies.) Then before you know it, you're rearranging your schedule and keeping your school-aged kids up way too late at night so you can attend the Intermediate Class. You NEED the Intermediate class now. The foundational PFAL class is no longer the goal. You'll be able to speak in tongues with interpretation and prophesy, which is after the Intermediate class, so of course, now you move mountains to be able to attend THAT class. Well, once you're an Intermediate class grad, the pressure really starts to get you to prepare for the Advanced Class - cause THAT's where the real knowledge is. Have a question that you never would have had before taking either of the 2 preceding classes? It's never answered straight out - it's always - "This is handled so well in the Advanced Class - you really need to build your believing to attend that this year". The Advanced Class is held only once a year and is 2 weeks long, so you have to rearrange your entire life aand family to accommodate that. But by now it's YOUR heart's desire. YOU want it more than anything in life, so you jump through all the hoops, save up all the money, quit the job that won't give the time off, etc... You're so busy getting ready to do the next thing on top of attending fellowship twice a week and then any other additional events they have going on, that you don't even realize the "ministry" has become your whole life. Friends who don't understand what you're into just fall off the radar screen. Anyone who's not "with the way" isn't worthy of your time anymore. You're busy bringing new people to the class. You don't have time to stop and think about the gnawing doubts in your mind. You've been taught that you can only think one thought at a time so make it a godly thought, you know, something from PFAL... It's one thought at a time, not all at once, or surely nobody would have gotten caught up in it. Once you're through the Advanced Class, why, there's only one thing to do. Go into the Way Corps. IF you REALLY love GOD, if you REALLY want to serve God and His people... Then it's "if you really love God you'll give more than the tithe - they gave the tithe in the OT when it wasn't available to be born again - how much MORE we should do in this Grace Administration than they did in OT times..." So even though you know the Bible says the tithe is 10%, you give 15% so you're considered spritually trusting God... It's really hard to comprehend unless you're actually there and experience it or have someone you love go through it. Mind control is a subtle, deliberate process. I was told by someone I must be "weak-minded" to have allowed a cult to take control of me. ANYONE who knows me at all, knows that's not true. That's why there's such a need for a GreaseSpotCafe. That's why you see so much anger here. It was a very rude awakening to come to the conclusion that I was living my life as someone else saw fit, not myself. For one thing, I had way too much ego to believe that someone else was running my life. I was out of the cult for a few years before I realized what had happened to me. I was not only mad at them for DOING something like that to me, but even madder at me for being vulnerable to such a deal. It's all very complicated and I hope I've helped clear it up a little for you.

It might be a bit easier for me cause I have an 11-year-old daughter who LOVES Sunday school, so I'm motivated to take her. When she was in kindergarten I put her in a private Christian school. They were Assembly of God. The school was ranked #1 academically in the state. The doctrine they taught at the kindergarten level was basically love thy neighbor, or Golden Rule-based, so I had no conflict. I did flinch when they prayed to Mary, the "mother of God", but I managed to remain seated. I didn't sing the songs that had "anti-twi" doctrine. They had said I had to attend church every week there while she was enrolled. I never did. I did attend the school functions that involved my child. Nobody ever confronted me on my absence. We moved that summer to an area where there was a delightful little Baptist church, all country folk. My daughter's friend's family were members and she started joining them on their Wednesday night deal for the kids. Pretty soon it was Sunday school and Wednesday night. Then the church had their membership drive and some big Baptist evangelist came and taught the service. My daughter decided she wanted to be baptized. Totally DUNKED IN WATER in front of God and EVERYBODY. I took a day to pray about it and decided to allow it. My child became a member of the church, but I did not. I'll never forget what a Sunday school teacher told me my 5-year-old said. When asked how she handles fear of being alone in her life she replied, "I'n never alone. Jesus is always with me". I was floored. I had done almost nothing to teach my child about God or Jesus. Yet, she had confidence in Jesus at age 5 that I didn't have after 15 years with twi! I believe God knew my heart was to teach my child these things, but I had become disabled in that category of my life. Jesus filled in the gap there for me. Now that child is 11 and still amazed to hear that I know anything at all about the Bible. When she's looking for a scripture and I can tell her where it is or the last part of one she's having difficulty with, she's like super-impressed that ol' Mom has a clue after all. I pray that by the time she gets into the Youth Group age I'll be able to fully participate in the program with her. I think the key is that God knows our hearts and knows when we're ready to do things we really want to. I think He's still in the miracle business and it's nothing short of a miracle when one of us ex-way kids makes it over that hurdle to make it through a "regular" church service. Pond - If you lived in my town I'd bring you to the First Christian Church of Christ (they refer to it as "the Christian Church" here). These folks are happy to see someone attend. They don't pressure me to do a damn thing. Last time I went it was kinda funny cause a couple that had been sitting behind me introduced themselves to me and said they don't attend often, but when their schedules allow they try to. I thought to myself that there are probably as many reasons people don't attend as there are people. Having cult crap running through my head when a preacher is preaching is probably not the biggest issue in that congregation. They don't care if everyone doesn't share the same exact view as the preacher. They treat everyone like a welcome guest. I've been invited to join, but when I declined, nobody pressured me in any way.

I'm thrilled you didn't pass it up - that's one of my alltime favorite video recordings of John - LOVE Roy Husky Jr. too. Made my day! dooj - I thought you was funnin me

I wasn't exactly thinking Bobby Goldsboro, but yeah, it was Gentle on My Mind. Your turn :)

Should I Stay or Should I Go? The Clash It's knowin' that your door is always open

Welcome to GreaseSpotCafe! First off, at the risk of sounding paranoid, please go back and delete that reference to where your girlfriend is located. It may seem strange, but the way ministry has full-time people whose job is to scan this site and copy anything they may later want to use against someone. You'll understand this clearly soon enough. At this point already, don't be surprised if the next time you hear from her your girlfriend tells you not to visit this site, that we're just a bunch of disgruntled "cop outs" here. Your girlfriend is involved in a cult. They are extremely manipulative and if her "leadership" knew she was dating someone outside what they consider the household of God (only twi people), they will no doubt make it difficult for her to see you. For my personal twi experience, please see http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.php?showtopic=1400. There are a lot of our stories there in the My Story forum of this site. Is this more your pleasure? As WG said, the first drink's on the house.

Right-ee-oh! Your turn.

Long Haired Country Boy - Charlie Daniels & Hank Jr. Want some whiskey in your water